The Dark Knight Rises 6 Minutes of TDKR footage attached to Mission Impossible 4! - - - - Part 13

[Frodo]

I can't wait for this topic to be dead.

He changed the mix...in post production they're messing with Mix all the time.

Nothing monumental happened here. some news site are treating this as if its a win against Nolan, or that Nolan has succumbed to something. It's really so stupid.

True but its the first fanboy tempest of 2012 so its a way to ring in the new year. The prologue was pretty cool though the CIA guy reminds me of a 80's sitcom Dad for some reason...

 

[Sharkboy]

It's like changing the label o the wine bottle. "...mmm, that's much better...."

Just tell people it's remixed.

It's exactly that.

 

[Name-That-movie]

It's exactly that.

I can confirm its not just "changing the label" here. It's definitely a different mix then what was sent out originally.

 

[Sharkboy]

I can confirm its not just "changing the label" here. It's definitely a different mix then what was sent out originally.

Wow. Could it really be all that different?

 

[The_Raganork]

The music and the airplane's engine is lower and Bane's voice is slightly elevated.

It's not really newsworthy.

 

[Name-That-movie]

I agree that it's not other worldly news but it is of significance. Changing a soundmix mid run doesn't happen, especially for a glorified trailer.

 

[CelticPredator]

It's funny that people think this movie is beyond criticism.

I bet they changed it for the final film, however.

 

[craigdbfan]

I'm willing to bet this is the placebo effect in motion. Nothing has been changed for a prologue most have already seen.

Goes to show how easy some people jump on a bandwagon.

 

[Name-That-movie]

Well I'm not jumping on any bandwagon, but the mix has been altered. Nothing I'm going to argue with you guys over. To each his own, I've done a comparison of both and the new one is different.

 

[The_Raganork]

It's funny that people think this movie is beyond criticism.

I bet they changed it for the final film, however.

New Year, New Argument:

Where have you seen evidence that people think the movie is beyond criticism and why does that humor you?

 

[Anita18]

The music and the airplane's engine is lower and Bane's voice is slightly elevated.

It's not really newsworthy.

Seriously. I bet the sound mixer took all of 5 minutes to do it.

 

[craigdbfan]

Well I'm not jumping on any bandwagon, but the mix has been altered. Nothing I'm going to argue with you guys over. To each his own, I've done a comparison of both and the new one is different.

You're the projectionist aren't you.

Ok maybe I was to quick to say it was a placebo. You're trustworthy because I know that you delivered.

Guess the background was a tad bit altered. I guess what bothers me is that the press is trying to make it out as this big deal. It isn't, this was something that was always going to happen in the sound mixing process anyway for the final cut. It's just annoying that WB had to send out this new sound mix this far in already for a 6 minute prologue.

Having it for the final cut would have been enough but this screams of placating the press.

 

[Name-That-movie]

You're the projectionist aren't you.

Ok maybe I was to quick to say it was a placebo. You're trustworthy because I know that you delivered.

Guess the background was a tad bit altered. I guess what bothers me is that the press is trying to make it out as this big deal. It isn't, this was something that was always going to happen in the sound mixing process anyway for the final cut. It's just annoying that WB had to send out this new sound mix this far in already for a 6 minute prologue.

Having it for the final cut would have been enough but this screams of placating the press.

I agree, it was very strange to get a new soundtrack after almost a month of having it. Why this didn't come out in the first week? After the press screening they knew it was an issue for most. It makes almost zero sense to release this now.

 

[The_Raganork]

You're the projectionist aren't you.

Ok maybe I was to quick to say it was a placebo. You're trustworthy because I know that you delivered.

Guess the background was a tad bit altered. I guess what bothers me is that the press is trying to make it out as this big deal. It isn't, this was something that was always going to happen in the sound mixing process anyway for the final cut. It's just annoying that WB had to send out this new sound mix this far in already for a 6 minute prologue.

Having it for the final cut would have been enough but this screams of placating the press.

Twice today I've read that Nolan's 'holier-than-thou' attitude has been dealt a blow.

"A win for common sense"

probably the most minute of changes has happened and it's as if the Rebellion just took out an AT-AT.

 

[CelticPredator]

******** it is. If people can't hear is voice, then how would that make the character interesting?

Same thing happened to Batman in the last movie.

Majority rules. And that's a fact. If people can't understand what he's saying, that's the fault of Nolan. Not the people.

And if you can, gooooooooood for you. And how was it?

 

[CelticPredator]

Twice today I've read that Nolan's 'holier-than-thou' attitude has been dealt a blow.

"A win for common sense"

probably the most minute of changes has happened and it's as if the Rebellion just took out an AT-AT.

And also, the AT-AT is ****ing huge, and would've killed every single person on Hoth. So that was not a little victory.

A little victory would be killing that one Snowtrooper running down the hallway.

Woopy.

 

[The_Raganork]

Cept they destroyed 1 and there were 4.

They still got creamed at the end of the day.

That's not the point though, the mixing was not an attack against the audience yet its being treated that way

 

[Nevincer]

I can't wait for this topic to be dead.

I'm sure Thread Manager can oblige.

 

[The_Raganork]

Thread Manager is my brother.

 

[CelticPredator]

Well it is. If the intention is to not understand, that's quite frustrating.

Especially for a popcorn flick. And don't you dare say it isn't. Nolan loves popcorn blockbusters. He just makes them with a tad more story.

 

[Sith Scotti]

This is such a non issue . There was sound mixing in post production .... Wec all knew that was happening ... Thiey rushed out a prologue big deal

 

[redfirebird2008]

I agree, it was very strange to get a new soundtrack after almost a month of having it. Why this didn't come out in the first week? After the press screening they knew it was an issue for most. It makes almost zero sense to release this now.

Possibly just to test people's reaction, as someone else said earlier in the thread. If the reaction to the new mix is pretty positive, then they'll know they should use a similar mix for the rest of the film.

 

[KalMart]

But I thought the audio was perfect, and everybody who couldn't hear it properly were all just overly exaggerating the entire thing?

I agree, it was very strange to get a new soundtrack after almost a month of having it. Why this didn't come out in the first week? After the press screening they knew it was an issue for most. It makes almost zero sense to release this now.

Again, it all just came down to a better sound mix, and it'll be even better by the time the film opens, just all the polishing in picture and sound any film goes through as it makes it to release. If there was 'panic' over it, it was rather premature but just for good faith, they probably spent another day on the temp mix for this prologue thingy...just to make sure. It's not like Nolan suddenly changed his actual approach to Bane's voice/accent/cadence/sound effect/etc., as he said he wouldn't.

It's also possible that with extended audio channels/speakers in an IMAX audio setup, the temp mix could have come out differently when 'upconverted' for that as opposed to a regular 5.1 or even stereo temp session to get this scene out there. If a regular theater has a 5.1 matrix, and an IMAX has something like a 13.x...a mix can be done specifically for the IMAX system instead of just letting it re-assign the 5.1 channels throughout. What can happen in some instances is that ambient noises or effects could get doubled into some speakers while the dialogue stays front center in lesser speakers...and you can get (surprise) something that sounds too noisy to hear dialogue. i.e. the surround/FX channels/sounds might have to be mixed 'softer' for IMAX because there's more speakers/channels to play them. So it could've come down to a rather quick temp mix that was fine for stereo and regular theater surround systems, but then didn't sound as good when 'translated' into IMAX systems....so they went back and did a quick remix optimized for IMAX sound systems.

 

[Sith Scotti]

Possibly just to test people's reaction, as someone else said earlier in the thread. If the reaction to the new mix is pretty positive, then they'll know they should use a similar mix for the rest of the film.

The only time people complained was the prologue . That had nothing to diwth Bane's accent but the background noise . . Why are people making an issue out of this . The prologue was rweleased before post production . They aren't doing test mixes etccc ....

 

[redfirebird2008]

It's not like Nolan suddenly changed his actual approach to Bane's voice/accent/cadence/sound effect/etc., as he said he wouldn't.

I like the Bane voice, but I wish he WOULD change his approach to the Batvoice.