88th Annual Academy Awards

[kedrell]

I'll say this for MM:FR though, it's the best of the 7 bad movies I saw this year. It's the MoS/TDKR/The Wolverine/TASM2 of this year in that respect.

 

[kedrell]

You obviously do cause you replied to me.

And here in my day we just called that civility.

 

[flickchick85]

@Flickchick, anyone who's seen it: I've read a couple of critiques that accuse The Revenant of being nothing more than an exhibition of pointless violence. Does it come across as such, or is there something deeper to the movie's themes that make it worth a watch?

While I wouldn't describe it in terms quite so reductive, and there are many moments of beauty in it...I really don't think it's a particularly deep film thematically, and the characters are barely there. Including Leo's. Tom Hardy's the only one that seems like an actual character, but I'm pretty sure that's just cuz he's played by Tom Hardy. I can't recommend it personally, but I would say IF you ever do plan to see it, it should be on the big screen, because those visuals are its saving grace.

But you really enjoyed both?

Not really. As you can see above, The Revenant left me cold. I was impressed by a couple of sequences and some technical aspects, but it didn't involve me on an emotional level at all.

 

[Broseph44]

oh you. (Kedrell)

Flickchick what other BP films if any did you see?

 

[Broseph44]

While I wouldn't describe it in terms quite so reductive, and there are many moments of beauty in it...I really don't think it's a particularly deep film thematically, and the characters are barely there. Including Leo's. Tom Hardy's the only one that seems like an actual character, but I'm pretty sure that's just cuz he's played by Tom Hardy. I can't recommend it personally, but I would say IF you ever do plan to see it, it should be on the big screen, because those visuals are its saving grace.


Not really. As you can see above, The Revenant left me cold. I was impressed by a couple of sequences and some technical aspects, but it didn't involve me on an emotional level at all.

But what about The Martian?

 

[flickchick85]

But what about The Martian?

Really enjoyed that one. While I have yet to update my top 10 of the year with all the Oscar contenders I've seen recently, I think it would still make the cut.

 

[flickchick85]

oh you. (Kedrell)

Flickchick what other BP films if any did you see?

All of 'em.

My personal ranking:

1.) Mad Max: Fury Road
2.) Room
3.) Spotlight
4.) The Martian
5.) The Big Short
6.) Brooklyn
7.) Bridge of Spies
8.) The Revenant

I enjoyed them all to a certain extent except The Revenant.

 

[Broseph44]

All of 'em.

My personal ranking:

1.) Mad Max: Fury Road
2.) Room
3.) Spotlight
4.) The Martian
5.) The Big Short
6.) Brooklyn
7.) Bridge of Spies
8.) The Revenant

I enjoyed them all to a certain extent except The Revenant.

Oh wow you're on top of things. Guess you're not called flickchick for nothing

 

[flickchick85]

Oh wow you're on top of things. Guess you're not called flickchick for nothing

It helps to work at a cinema that shows most of 'em, so I can see them for free. t:

My theater focuses on indies (including "studio indies") and foreign films, so this was a good year for us. The only ones we didn't get were Mad Max, Bridge of Spies and The Martian. The last couple of years most of the big contenders went to the more mainstream theaters.

 

[Roose Bolton]

The violence being pointless is what makes the film poignant. Tom Hardy has a reason for the things he does and it's hard to blame why he has his worldview.

Exactly. Hell, the entire concept of Hugh Glass trying get revenge is ultimately pointless because revenge isn't going to return his son to him, and yet that's what makes his journey so compelling.

 

[Broseph44]

It helps to work at a cinema that shows most of 'em, so I can see them for free. t:

My theater focuses on indies (including "studio indies") and foreign films, so this was a good year for us. The only ones we didn't get were Mad Max, Bridge of Spies and The Martian. The last couple of years most of the big contenders went to the more mainstream theaters.

Oh hey that's pretty sweet, got a good gig t:

 

[kedrell]

Exactly. Hell, the entire concept of Hugh Glass trying get revenge is ultimately pointless because revenge isn't going to return his son to him, and yet that's what makes his journey so compelling.

Well it gave him a goal to focus on and strive towards. Without it he'd likely have just given up and died.

 

[Roose Bolton]

It did indeed keep him alive, but it didn't give him fullfillment or ultimately solve anything. It's pretty nihilistic in that sense.

 

[SKYpz]

It helps to work at a cinema that shows most of 'em, so I can see them for free. t:

That's very nice. And a dreamjob for movielovers

 

[kedrell]

It did indeed keep him alive, but it didn't give him fullfillment or ultimately solve anything. It's pretty nihilistic in that sense.

Hmm, I'd say open-ended, which is akin to hopeful. We know from history that he lived another 10 years after this before that native tribe finally killed him in 1833. But we don't know what the quality of his life was like for that last decade. Maybe he remarried? I don't know. But in the film by forgoing his revenge he let the natives take it(which didn't happen in real life BTW) and they sparred his life for that time.

 

[Supernova]

I thought Leo was good in the revenant but it felt like any other survival film only more Oscar baity. Hell I thought Liam Neeson in the grey was way better and should have been nominated a few years ago.

I think I am pulling for Fassbender more though for steve jobs. I really connected to the films story and characters like I connected to the social network a few years back. Fassbender didn't look like jobs but his performance from top to bottom was just perfect.

 

[Supernova]

on a side note the force awakens not being nominated for best picture is my main problem with the academy. The force awakens was a real good quality big budget film that deserved award recognition. If movies like the force awakens don't make billions of dollars then Hollywood dies including there precious indie films like Brooklyn that no one goes to see ever.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

on a side note the force awakens not being nominated for best picture is my main problem with the academy. The force awakens was a real good quality big budget film that deserved award recognition. If movies like the force awakens don't make billions of dollars then Hollywood dies including there precious indie films like Brooklyn that no one goes to see ever.

"Brooklyn" is at 25m in a rather limited release in the US. So yes, people have gone to see it, including myself. It is also a British film, including funding from the BBC and BFI. So, it isn't a Hollywood film.

 

[Roose Bolton]

on a side note the force awakens not being nominated for best picture is my main problem with the academy. The force awakens was a real good quality big budget film that deserved award recognition. If movies like the force awakens don't make billions of dollars then Hollywood dies including there precious indie films like Brooklyn that no one goes to see ever.

If we follow that logic then all of the Transformers films should have been best picture nominees because of all the money they made.

 

[Supernova]

"Brooklyn" is at 25m in a rather limited release in the US. So yes, people have gone to see it, including myself. It is also a British film, including funding from the BBC and BFI. So, it isn't a Hollywood film.

My point was without a film like awakens making billions smaller films wouldnt get made or funded. The force awakens just as top quality as mad max was and great in there own ways. Brooklyn has been out since november 27th wide release and averaged around $100,000 a day so lets not pretend its selling out shows. The academy continues to show how out of touch there are every single year.

On a side note Im not really mad because these award shows are meaningless in the long run see 1998 as a great example.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If we follow that logic then all of the Transformers films should have been best picture nominees because of all the money they made.

 

[Supernova]

If we follow that logic then all of the Transformers films should have been best picture nominees because of all the money they made.

Nah and once again the generic transformers mention slips in. Not all great best pictures have to be smaller films/indies. No one can sit here and say Avatar deserved a best picture nod and awakens doesnt with a straight face.

Straight out of compton and steve jobs getting snubbed are also just other endless examples.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

My point was without a film like awakens making billions smaller films wouldnt get made or funded. The force awakens just as top quality as mad max was and great in there own ways. Brooklyn has been out since november 27th wide release and averaged around $100,000 a day so lets not pretend its selling out shows. The academy continues to show how out of touch there are every single year.

On a side note Im not really mad because these award shows are meaningless in the long run see 1998 as a great example.

As I just pointed out, Brooklyn got its funding from national institutions and smaller production studios. It would have been made no matter what. So your rant is off base and has no merit. Who said anything about selling out shows? You said no one watched it. Clearly people have been watching it.

I love TFA. It is my favorite movie of the year. It isn't a question of popularity but quality. Would I have liked it nominated? Yes. Did it deserve it? That is up for debate, but it most certainly shouldn't win so I can't really complain all that much.

But I do love people who say they don't care about the awards, and then come into the thread to whine about said awards.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Nah and once again the generic transformers mention slips in. Not all great best pictures have to be smaller films/indies. No one can sit here and say Avatar deserved a best picture nod and awakens doesnt with a straight face.

Straight out of compton and steve jobs getting snubbed are also just other endless examples.

Straight Out of Compton is not that good. I like it, but it wasn't snubbed imo. Haven't seen Jobs yet.

By the way, not all Best Picture nominations are smaller, Indie films. Go look at the price tag for The Reverent, The Martian and Fury Road. You own argument is factually wrong.

 

[Supernova]

As I just pointed out, Brooklyn got a lot of its funding from national institutions. It would have been made no matter what. So your rant is off base and has no merit. Who said anything about selling out shows? You said no one watched it. Clearly people have been watching it.

I love TFA. It is my favorite movie of the year. It isn't a question of popularity but quality. Would I have liked it nominated? Yes. Did it deserve it? That is up for debate, but it most certainly shouldn't win so I can't really complain all that much.

But I do love people who say they don't care about the awards, and then come into the thread to whine about said awards.

How is it whining when pointing out the academies blatant bias and shining a light on there voting choices. Heck a reviewer here in DC said he heard a good amount of the academy voters hadnt even seen some of the films but voted them In because they heard they were good.