Days of Future Past Actors from original trilogy on First Class sequel with Days of Future Past

[Mrs Vimes]

I want to see the the Future scenes take up time too man, but the main focus of the plot is probably gonna take place in the past trying to stop the incident that leads to the future.

Yeah, kinda like in The Terminator. You get the scenes from the future there but there's no actual parallel storyline with different characters taking place in the future. It all focuses on the present (or past depending on the perspective). It might not be exactly the same for this movie of course.

 

[def28]

Yeah, kinda like in The Terminator. You get the scenes from the future there but there's no actual parallel storyline with different characters taking place in the future. It all focuses on the present (or past depending on the perspective).

Exactly. The time traveler is gonna be that link and unless that person is going back and forth, the films gonna stay in the past till the problems solved. Or think its been solved.

It will be really interesting how they leave off with The Future side of things. Can it be changed? Or do they go Alt timeline like the books?

 

[magneto23]

Yeah, kinda like in The Terminator. You get the scenes from the future there but there's no actual parallel storyline with different characters taking place in the future. It all focuses on the present (or past depending on the perspective). It might not be exactly the same for this movie of course.

This is really what makes the most sense. A dual story sounds way too clunky and cluttered. That kind of storytelling is more for tv series not 2 hour movies.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

IMO, overstuffing the movie with too many plots and characters would be another X3. Which is exactly what combining two casts sounds like to me.

No, combining the factions is exactly what DOFP is all about.

Two factions, past and present, with the traveler in the middle.

Just curious, what do the future mutants actually do in the comic once the time traveller goes into the past?

Read the story:

Spoiler

In the 21st century (the year is 2013), an adult Kate Pryde-Rasputin makes her way through the dangerous remains of a destroyed Manhattan to rendezvous with Wolverine. But it's the last place the Sentinels would be searching for the X-Men. She falls down a trap door and is being threatened by some thugs when Wolverine shows up.

Wolverine - Colonel Logan - has been in the Canadian Resistance Army. He reports that once the Sentinels move out of North America, the other great powers will launch a nuclear attach. He give her the last component of the "Jammer" for her to smuggle back into the camp. Phase two of their plan begins at midnight, when Logan busts them all out.

In this future, people are required to wear a letter that labels what they are - H for human (clean of mutant genes and allowed to breed), A for Anomalous (possess mutant genetic potential and prevented from breeding) and M for mutants (who are hunted and killed)

Kitty returns to the South Bronx Mutant Interment Center, carrying medical supplies. After being interrogated and searched by a Sentinel, she's allowed the enter and passes through a huge cemetery, with tombstones naming most of the members of the X-Men and Fantastic Four.

Only four of the X-Men remain - Wolverine (Logan), Kate, Storm (Ororo Munro), Colossus (Peter Rasputin, Kate's husband). They are joined by Franklin Richards (the last remaining member of the Fantastic Four) and his girlfriend, Rachel.

She reports back to them what happened and about the plan. They're joined by Magneto, who's in a wheelchair, who tells them they don't have any choice. If they don't do anything, the world will be at war.

Magneto tells Rachel that so much depends on her. She tells him she won't fail and they can start once the Jammer is ready.

Peter asks Kate if they should be toying with the fabric of reality like this, and if it works, what will happen to them? Kate replies that with billions of lives at stake, they have to take the risk. After everyone they've lost, if changing the past holds any chance of saving them, they have to do it.

Later, Magneto goes to check on Franklin's progress with the Jammer - which neutralizes the inhibitor collars they all wear to prevent them from using their powers. He finishes making the final adjustments and they're ready.

Kate lays down on floor and Rachel sits behind her and tells her to relax. Their minds become one and Kate's soul is sent hurling back through time.

October 31, 1980 - the Friday before the closest presidential election in recent memory. Kitty enters the Danger Room to deliver a message from Nightcrawler, but the session had already started.

Storm, Wolverine, Colossus and Angel are in the middle of fierce training session and immediately have to save Kitty. Nightcrawler teleports in in the nick of time to turn the session off before Kitty and Peter are crushed.

After being told off by Ororo, Kitty prepares for her first session in the Danger Room by herself. Kitty is able to face all of the challenges by phasing and keeps her eyes closed the whole time.

Suddenly, Kitty comes face-to-face with her future self and collapses. The X-Men rush to her, and can't figure out what happened. She's taken to the infirmary.

She wakes up, hugs Nightcrawler and overwhelmed at seeing him alive. The X-Men are surprised by this, since Kitty has always been scared of Kurt. Kurt tells her that she isn't making any sense and she needs to rest, but Kate doesn't have time. She tells them that she can't believe that Rachel actually pulled this off. Peter asks who Rachel is. Kate tries to explain to them her future self is inhabiting her body, but Ororo thinks she's just confused after having such a rough time in the Danger Room.

Kate is able to convince them she's telling the truth by recalling the events that lead to her future - the assassination of presidential candidate Senator Kelly, along with Charles Xavier and Moira McTaggert, by the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants happens that day. That event sets in motion events that culminate in nuclear war.

They take Kate to Washington DC in Warren's private jet.

During the plane ride there, Kitty further explains how Kelly's death effects events in the future. People began to fear and hate all mutants, which enabled an anti-mutant candidate was elected President who passed the first Mutant Control Act. But that was struck down by the Supreme Court as unconstitutional. As a result, the government reactivated the Sentinel program to wipe out all mutants and even all super-beings (including the Avengers and Fantastic Four).

Kate breaks down while telling them that the X-Men lost the fight and most died. Seeing them all alive is too much for her to bear.

She continues that the rest of the world became more frightened of the Sentinels than mutants. She explains that one of the surviving X-Men, a telepath (Rachel), devised a plan to psychically send one of the others back in time to exchange places with their younger self and stop the assassination. Since Kitty hadn't been fully trained to resist psychic attacks, she was the best candidate.

Kate wonders what's happening back in her future, and if Logan had freed the others from the camp.

New York, 2013 - Logan, an unconscious Kate being carried by Peter, Ororo, Rachel and Franklin make their way through an abandoned subway tunnel. Magneto stayed behind the cover their escape. Suddenly, Sentinels attack and vaporize Franklin as Rachel watches on in horror.

Two Sentinels rip the Subway tunnel open and order them to surrender.

Traumatized, Rachel tells Storm that she felt Franklin die in her mind. Ororo tries to get Rachel to pull herself together since they need her.

Ray tells Ororo she won't break, and blasts the Sentinel, wanting to destroy it to avenge Franklin.

Storm tries to hit the Sentinel with lighting bolts, but it's insulated against her powers. Colossus asks Rachel to protect Kate with her life as he armors up, then hurls Wolverine at the Sentinel with a Fastball Special. Wolverine is able to penetrate the Sentinel's armor enabling Storm's lighting bolt to fry it's computer systems. Meanwhile. Colossus and Rachel are able to take out the other Sentinel.

But as they make their way through the city streets, three more Sentinels are heading towards them. Colossus pushes down an hotel on top of the Sentinels to give them time to make it to the Baxter Building - where the central controls for the Sentinels are.

October 31, 1980 - Washington DC - A woman named Raven Darkholme, who works in research and development for the secretary of defense, makes her way to a secret area of the Pentagon - where the new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants is gathered. Raven is really Mystique, the Brotherhood's new shapeshifting leader. The other members are: Destiny (a precog who can see the future), Avalanche (who can crumble any solid object), Pyro (who controls fire), and Blob, who they have just helped escape from prison.

Destiny had foreseen a new element that might cause problems for them, and Blob has issues with taking orders from a woman. They all bicker but Mystique ends it, telling them that it's time for them to strike.

Across town, Charles and Moira are at a Senate hearing on mutants. They notice Ororo, Kitty and Peter standing in the back of the room. Charles first mindscans Ororo, then Kitty.

Senator Kelly continues to question Moira about mutants, and the place for ordinary humans in a world of super-beings.

Suddenly, a hole is blasted into the wall behind them by Avalanche, and there stands the new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The X-Men (Colossus, Wolverine, Storm, Kitty, Angel and Nightcrawler) appear in uniform. If the Brotherhood wants to harm the Senator, they're going to have to go through them.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Part II:

Spoiler

In 1980, the X-Men face off against the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants in the US Senate.

In 2013, the few remaining X-Men try to escape the Sentinels to prevent the a nuclear doomsday.

Between the two is Kitty Pryde, who psychically traveled back in time to change history.

Mystique tells the X-Men that the Brotherhood intends on killing Senator Kelly to show that anyone who opposes the superiority of mutants will have to face the consequences. Of course, the X-Men vow to stop them.

Kelly orders the Senate security personnel to arrest the Brotherhood, but the Blob sends the marshal flying while Avalanche uproots the floor the X-Men are standing on.

Nightcrawler teleports behind Avalanche, but Destiny warns him of the attack. Colossus is grabbed by Pyro's fire claw. Wolverine begins to stab Pyro with his claws, but Storms pushes him out of the way with a whirlwind, while cooling off Colossus with rain.

Meanwhile, Angel tries to fly Kitty off safety, but she reminds him they have protect Senator Kelly. Moira pushes Xavier to safety, with the help of a police office, who turns out to be Mystique. Mystique knocks both of them out with nerve gas

Kate is concerned her presence hasn't changed anything. In her future, Storm and Wolverine have made it to the Baxter Building - the Sentinel's main headquarters.

Storm concludes she must become as ruthless as Wolverine, and blasts the Sentinel standing in front of the building with a tremendous bolt of lighting. It collapses.

Colossus tells Rachel to remain outside with Kitty inside Kate's body. He wonders what's going on in the past and why nothing has changed. Rachel replies that their world may not change. Altering the past could create an alternate, parallel Earth. Wolverine grumbles that it could all be a wasted effort, but Rachel doesn't know.

Colossus, Wolverine and Storm make their way into the Baxter Building.

Back in Washington 33 years earlier, Kate rushes past the X-Men battling the Brotherhood, seeing that the X-Men are loosing the fight. Storm begins to doubt her leadership abilities, then pushes them outside with hurricane force winds to give them more room. The fight continues on the street, with Army troops firing on them. Nightcrawler is attacked by Mystique taking the form of him. Wolverine wants to stab both of them, knowing the real elf can teleport out of the way, but Storm asserts her authority as team leader and tells him to sheathe his claws.

Nightcrawler finally finishes Mystique off, and as she reverts back to her normal form, he notices how similar they are. He asks why she knows his name, and she replies to ask his mother, then runs off.

As the battle ends, the X-Men notice that Sprite is no where to be found.

In the future, the X-Men come out of the elevator into the Sentinel control center. Wolverine tells Peter to give him a Fastball Special. There is a Sentinel standing with his back towards them and Wolverine thinks he can gut it without it seeing him coming.

As Wolverine speeds towards it, it turns and vaporizes him. His adamantium skeleton drops to the floor. Storm attacks the Sentinel as more Sentinels arrive. Storm is speared through the back by one of the Sentinels and dies.

In an absolute rage, Colossus strikes back at the Sentinels, sending through the side of the building.

Hiding on the street below, Rachel telepathically feels the deaths of each of the X-Men in the Baxter Building. She wonders if Kate's body dies, will Kitty's soul be trapped in the past? She hopes Kate has a happier life than she did her, if that happens.

In 1980, Kitty finds Destiny holding a gun on Senator Kelly. She phases through Destiny, which causes her to miss the Senator.

Immediately Kate and Kitty's souls travel through time and are restored to their proper bodies.

Storm flies in and checks on Kitty, who's woozy and wants to know where the Danger Room went. She tells the Senator that Spite, a mutant, just saved his life. Then she and Kitty fly out.

On the plane back to the mansion, Xavier questions Kitty about what she remembers. But she doesn't remember anything. She asks Xavier what he learned about her future self, but Xavier thinks it's best if Kitty discovers it herself as she grows up.

Angel wonders if Kitty saving Senator Kelly really did save the future, but only time will tell if they did.

A month later, at the White House, there is a clandestine meeting between Kelly and Sebastian Shaw (of the Hellfire Club). They have read Kelly's report on how to deal with the mutant menace, and formulated a top-secret, covert plan -Project Wideawake. Kelly concludes that if there weren't any mutants to begin with, his life would never have been in danger. Widewake will be headed by Henry Peter Gyrich, who will work with Shaw to develop a new series of Sentinels. Gyrich vows to deal with the mutant threat - permanently.

Without both factions, its not DOFP.

 

[Mrs Vimes]

I've read the story and it seems to me that the meat of the story is in the sequences in the past that deal with the attempt to prevent the assassination. From the summary at least, after the time traveller is off and away not that much happens in the future-mutants!storyline apart from some action sequences that don't really lead anywhere. I could see them cut, easily.

It will be really interesting how they leave off with The Future side of things. Can it be changed? Or do they go Alt timeline like the books?

Though it's likely to be a darker movie, I have a feeling that the "future can't be changed" kind of ending would be too much of a downer for a big summer blockbuster t:

Even in 12 Monkeys, which is one depressing movie about time travel, there's a glimmer of hope at the end.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

I've read the story and it seems to me that the meat of the story is in the sequences in the past that deal with the attempt to prevent the assassination. From the summary at least, after the time traveller is off and away not that much happens in the future-mutants!storyline apart from some action sequences that don't really lead anywhere. I could see them cut, easily.

You lose those scenes, you lose the story.

The time traveler's wish to see the future saved is what drives the story. You need to see that horrible future to care, and five minutes won't do.

Storm, Franklin Richards, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Rachel Summers & the elderly Magneto need to be in the film.

Wolverine should be the traveler. Jackman is FOX's answer to RDJ.

 

[Mrs Vimes]

The time traveler's wish to see the future saved is what drives the story. You need to see that horrible future to care, and five minutes won't do.

Terminator managed it without making a whole separate storyline with separate characters in the future or spending all that much time on the future.

 

[X-Maniac]

You lose those scenes, you lose the story.

The time traveler's wish to see the future saved is what drives the story. You need to see that horrible future to care, and five minutes won't do.

I want more than 5 minutes but not too much going back and forth between past and future.

Storm, Franklin Richards, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Rachel Summers & the elderly Magneto need to be in the film.

They were in the comic version, but do they need to be in the movie? Neither Kitty nor Ellen Page are particularly memorable in the film series and we can't see the comic book scenario because there is no past Kitty in the 60s for future Kitty be transferred into.

Why bother with Franklin if we haven't yet had a new Fantastic Four film. He's meaningless and pointless to the mainstream audience who don't know the Richards had a kid.

Wolverine should be the traveler. Jackman is FOX's answer to RDJ

I'm not sure he should be the traveller. We've already seen a Wolverine in the 60s - where is he during all this? Is the mind of future Wolverine transferred into 60s Wolverine? Or is 60s Wolverine off fighting in Vietnam?

There are other options. A new character like Bishop or Cable who could feature in further films perhaps?

 

[Angamb]

Wolverine SHOULDNT be the traveler.

He has his own series, and was the star of the original trilogy.

All the sequels after First Class SHOULD start developing the other characters, both past and present.

Wolverine can still be a big supporting role, and one of the leads in the future, but a big NO to him leading this sequel. It wont be fair. I reaaaaaaaaaally hope Singer agrees with this and put more attention to the rest of the characters.

 

[marvelrobbins]

The Wolverine Isn't a seperate film series It's part of X-Men film series.

Bishop or Cable aren't going to be used.The entire purpose of doing Days of future Is doing an event crossover Is to use casts of both First Class and
X-Men trilogy.Bishop or Cable defeat the purpose.DOFP Is opening against third Hobbit film.Who Is fox going to want to use a Character who Isn't even popular anymore or their own version of Robert Downey JR.Having rewatched the entire trilogy again this weekend I feel Bryan Singer did decent balance In X-Men and X2 between Wolverine and other characters.In X2 Wolverine was mostly dealing with his own quest while others stopped the genocadle plans of first Stryker and then Magneto.

I think It's very possible the first half hour Is spent In future.And then the remaining hour and half of film Is In past.Using Wolverine as time traveler can keep the original exchanges minds with younger self.Jean Is dead so It has to be Xavier who helps.That means you are stuck with Wolverine or Mystque.
To use Mystique takes away any character devolpment.Magneto will likely sacrifice himself to allow others to escape from camp.Of course It remains
possable they will stick to going back and forth between time peroids.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

I want more than 5 minutes but not too much going back and forth between past and future.



They were in the comic version, but do they need to be in the movie? Neither Kitty nor Ellen Page are particularly memorable in the film series and we can't see the comic book scenario because there is no past Kitty in the 60s for future Kitty be transferred into.

Why bother with Franklin if we haven't yet had a new Fantastic Four film. He's meaningless and pointless to the mainstream audience who don't know the Richards had a kid.



I'm not sure he should be the traveller. We've already seen a Wolverine in the 60s - where is he during all this? Is the mind of future Wolverine transferred into 60s Wolverine? Or is 60s Wolverine off fighting in Vietnam?

There are other options. A new character like Bishop or Cable who could feature in further films perhaps?

Franklin Richards could be the lead-in to Trank's FF.

As for Wolverine's location in the mid-60s, it really doesn't matter where he is. He'd desert 'nam in a heartbeat if he was there fighting.

 

[X-Maniac]

The Wolverine Isn't a seperate film series It's part of X-Men film series.

Bishop or Cable aren't going to be used.The entire purpose of doing Days of future Is doing an event crossover Is to use casts of both First Class and
X-Men trilogy.Bishop or Cable defeat the purpose.DOFP Is opening against third Hobbit film.Who Is fox going to want to use a Character who Isn't even popular anymore or their own version of Robert Downey JR.Having rewatched the entire trilogy again this weekend I feel Bryan Singer did decent balance In X-Men and X2 between Wolverine and other characters.In X2 Wolverine was mostly dealing with his own quest while others stopped the genocadle plans of first Stryker and then Magneto.

I would say that Cyclops didn't exactly get his due. It's about time he did. Hopefully Marsden can perform as a commanding, macho leader. I'd like to see Cyclops lead the team in a film, without Wolverine being there!

I think It's very possible the first half hour Is spent In future.And then the remaining hour and half of film Is In past.Using Wolverine as time traveler can keep the original exchanges minds with younger self.Jean Is dead so It has to be Xavier who helps.That means you are stuck with Wolverine or Mystque.
To use Mystique takes away any character devolpment.Magneto will likely sacrifice himself to allow others to escape from camp.Of course It remains
possable they will stick to going back and forth between time peroids.

If they want older self meets younger self, it has to be Beast, Mystique, Wolverine, Storm, Jean or Xavier in terms of older characters we have already met. However, Banshee or Havok were probably alive in the future too.

It depends if this is an alternate timeline future or a future after The Last Stand.

Also, what if more than one person travels in time, so there is a back-up in case one of them is killed while trying to stop the event? That could enable Bishop to be part of the story, for instance. We could see two people (Bishop + Wolverine, or whoever) travel through time.

 

[Angamb]

Who said Bishop or Cable wont be used marvelrobins?

we havent read the script. We dont know the characters that will appear on the future.

Do you really think the only alive mutants will be x-men members? that would be such a bad decision.

Sometimes it seems some of the fans expect all the x-men to show up on the sequel, but thats highly unlikely.

There could be some x-men from original trilogy and a one or two new allies. That would be a realistic situation. and Im sure Singer will show both sides of the story, some x-men alive and others not, and a few new mutants too, not neccesary as lead characters, but as cameo or a larger role.

 

[JackMercy]

Jackman is FOX's answer to RDJ.

Agreed. He's been in every X-film already, and considering one of the biggest laughs in audience reaction for First Class came from his five-second cameo...

Expect him to be in this movie, in one way or another.

The "ambitious" budget/scale increase isn't justified purely by First Class's box office and/or home video, believe me -- Fox has other reasons they want to party...

It's also logical to assume that Mangold is setting up Wolverine's particular psychological state and timeline for a reason as well...to "free" the character while working as a 'solo' film, but Wolvie's 'isolated' nature can neatly flow into how he acts/feels even further in the future of DoFP.

Considering all of Fox/Millar/Singer's talk already (and Singer's strong relationship with Jackman), there's no way these two films aren't going to connect at least on a tangential/tone level...

 

[marvelrobbins]

When you have a larg ensamble cast someone Is going to suffer.It's a moot point.Cyclops
will not be In Days of future Past.

The future of Days of future Past Is post last stand future.At least till the events of this
film.

If 2 people time travel It's more likely to be Wolverine and Rogue or Wolverine and Kitty
than Wolverine and Bishop.

 

[Angamb]

It just deppends on what Singer wants, not about what we as fans think is more likely.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Who said Bishop or Cable wont be used marvelrobins?

we havent read the script. We dont know the characters that will appear on the future.

Do you really think the only alive mutants will be x-men members? that would be such a bad decision.

Sometimes it seems some of the fans expect all the x-men to show up on the sequel, but thats highly unlikely.

There could be some x-men from original trilogy and a one or two new allies. That would be a realistic situation. and Im sure Singer will show both sides of the story, some x-men alive and others not, and a few new mutants too, not neccesary as lead characters, but as cameo or a larger role.

Bishop or Cable won't be used.They are often gun trotting characters.These 2 characters haven't been popular In years.This Is time traveling crossover event.The characters In future will be surviving members of X-Men and Brotherhood with possibly of Franklin Richards thrown In there to help setup Fantastic Four and to tie It to X-men universe(plus using franklin helps cover fox's ass to keep FF rights In event of delay on FF)

Fox may not even own rights to Cable.With Bishop he absorbs energy.In past that Isn't very helpful Inless havok or Banshee blast him.

The Hobbit:There and Back again opens same day as X-Men;Days of future Past.What Is going to help X-Men more?Having cast members from previous films or having character that hasn't been popular In years.

People need to get the animated versions of Days of future Past out of their heads and look at comic version.That's the version that will be adapted.Of course not perfectly but the core of It with some changes.

 

[JackMercy]

It just depends on what Singer wants, not about what we as fans think is more likely.

Agreed. Something many would do well to keep in mind...

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

People need to get the animated versions of Days of future Past out of their heads and look at comic version.That's the version that will be adapted.Of course not perfectly but the core of It with some changes.

This.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

But remember Singer was a fan of the animated series. Who knows if he will take parts from it. I like the idea of the mutant "M" tattooed on faces which wasn't originally from DOFP..

 

[Angamb]

Who of you all would like to see this woman coming back like this?



t:

 

[Duran Man]

She looks hot. An improvement from what we got.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Bishop or Cable won't be used.They are often gun trotting characters.These 2 characters haven't been popular In years.This Is time traveling crossover event.The characters In future will be surviving members of X-Men and Brotherhood with possibly of Franklin Richards thrown In there to help setup Fantastic Four and to tie It to X-men universe(plus using franklin helps cover fox's ass to keep FF rights In event of delay on FF)

Fox may not even own rights to Cable.With Bishop he absorbs energy.In past that Isn't very helpful Inless havok or Banshee blast him.

The Hobbit:There and Back again opens same day as X-Men;Days of future Past.What Is going to help X-Men more?Having cast members from previous films or having character that hasn't been popular In years.

People need to get the animated versions of Days of future Past out of their heads and look at comic version.That's the version that will be adapted.Of course not perfectly but the core of It with some changes.

Just because Bishop and Cable haven't been popular in yeas doesn't mean they can't be used. A lot of unpopular mutants were used in FC. I'm not saying I think they'll appear, but there is a possibility.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Anna Paquin's a higher profile actress now thanks to True Blood so I wouldn't be surprised if they got her to reprise her role. (I was actually pleasantly surprised to see her in Scream 4)

I personally don't want a Franklin Richards character in this film. IMHO, child actors tend to ruin movies for me. The Looper is a perfect example of this.