All Things DCEU News, Discussion, and Speculation - Part 4

[MbJ]

I am 100% certain Patty Jenkins was *deliberately* ignoring the BvS backstory. This wasn't "weird contradiction", this was "I think the prior movie made a terrible, terrible choice, and I am retconning that bugger".

I said in a few other threads but yeah. There is a very obvious effort to ignore parts of BVS seen in both Wonder Woman and Justice League. That's why I'm thinking any potential Flashpoint reboot is not gonna be particularly sweeping. They're just gonna pretend BVS didn't happen.

 

[Jekecy]

I'm cool with WW and Aquaman serving as the "new" Phase 1 of this reformed DCEU continuity.

With a rebooted Batman all but confirmed, that leaves the question of Superman's world and whether that moves forward. While I think the smarter play is to full-on reboot that universe, we're still at a tipping point where WB could go either way on it.

 

[BH/HHH]

I'm done with whatever they decide with Superman but my preference is for Cavill to stay. I'd even be open to recasting everyone but him and I actually think they could get across the freshness of it by doing that.

 

[Rorschach2012]

DCEU Lex, Superman, Lois, Jimmy and Perry all had horrible writing or were miscast. So yeah it’s time to reboot for sure

 

[Boy Scout]

I don’t think we’ll see or hear anything from Lex for a long time. Jimmy can be introduced at any time; most people haven’t seen the version of DOJ that murdered him, so that doesn’t matter. What happens with Lois (assuming they aren’t replacing Cavill) depends entirely on Amy Adams. She’ll probably only come back if the new director excites her.

 

[BH/HHH]

DCEU Lex, Superman, Lois, Jimmy and Perry all had horrible writing or were miscast. So yeah it’s time to reboot for sure

Superman was not miscast, I've seen you say some strange things but that takes the cake. Of course you're entitled to your own opinion mind.

I don't agree on Lois and Perry either but can understand that they may not have matched what some people had in mind and probably wanted something more traditional.

As for Jimmy and Lex I agree.

 

[STARMAN]

The casting is good outside of Lex. The material has been bad. Whether you keep the cast or not you need a new creative team and better material. That's the common denominator.

 

[MbJ]

Yeah I had no problem with Perry or Lois. What they did with Jimmy though was a great summation of what so many people hate about the DCEU though, and Lex was absolutely terrible.

I would be interested to see if Lex could be better with a different writer and director who go a more traditional route.

 

[misslane38]

Sigh...that wasn't Jimmy. It was a CIA agent using an undercover codename.

 

[The Guard]

I said in a few other threads but yeah. There is a very obvious effort to ignore parts of BVS seen in both Wonder Woman and Justice League. That's why I'm thinking any potential Flashpoint reboot is not gonna be particularly sweeping. They're just gonna pretend BVS didn't happen.

What major element did they ignore, aside from the Knightmare, which was A, essentially a dream, and B, ostensibly happened in the future, and could conceivably STILL happen.

Most movies...including Marvel ones, don't endlessly reference the plots of preceding movies. WB "ignoring" previous movies isn't a groundbreaking approach...it's what most franchises do. Move forward with minimal reference to the events of prior films.

 

[kguillou]

Crazy idea but if Teen Titans Go To The Movies does well this year...why doesn't DC/WB seriously start investing in animated theatrical releases going forward? Like, make animated movies akin to their direct to video releases but obviously with bigger budgets and more ambitious scripts? Could that be a potential profitable venture for them? Imagine an animated theatrical version of Batman v. Superman for example with Conroy and Tim Daly.

Granted, Mask of the Phantasm was a financial dud even though it was released right in the heat of BATS' popularity so maybe it's not that simple, but its an idea.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

Crazy idea but if Teen Titans Go To The Movies does well this year...why doesn't DC/WB seriously start investing in animated theatrical releases going forward? Like, make animated movies akin to their direct to video releases but obviously with bigger budgets and more ambitious scripts? Could that be a potential profitable venture for them? Imagine an animated theatrical version of Batman v. Superman for example with Conroy and Tim Daly.

Granted, Mask of the Phantasm was a financial dud even though it was released right in the heat of BATS' popularity so maybe it's not that simple, but its an idea.

Lego Batman was also released, with a decent but not great boxoffice haul.

On the other side Disney did do a Big Hero 6 adaptation that also made some good money but never really started a movie franchise.

 

[2kt09]

Lego Batman was also released, with a decent but not great boxoffice haul.

On the other side Disney did do a Big Hero 6 adaptation that also made some good money but never really started a movie franchise.

That iteration of the characters has, however, spun off into its own show; continuing on from where it left off. Another possible way to diversify its lineup.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Man of Steel sequel news is due 'very soon', according to certain CBM sites....

 

[MbJ]

They will probably avoid calling it Man of Steel 2 for obvious reasons, so I'm curious what they could title it?

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Superman

 

[Boy Scout]

Yup.

 

[BestGirl]

I am really astonished we might be getting a MOS2. WB must have been very encouraged by the positive fan reaction to Superman in JL.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I am really astonished we might be getting a MOS2. WB must have been very encouraged by the positive fan reaction to Superman in JL.

I didn’t really see all that much positive feedback from fans. I mostly just saw comments about his CGI lip

 

[Superchan]

I am really astonished we might be getting a MOS2. WB must have been very encouraged by the positive fan reaction to Superman in JL.

Im not gonna get excited until we hear something official but let's not forget that MOS opened at 128 mill, which was then the june record and the 2nd highest opening for a non sequel in history (unadjusted), so needless to say the Superman brand has some serious power behind it and WB would know this if the company wasn't being run by a bunch of primates.

 

[Jonwo]

Crazy idea but if Teen Titans Go To The Movies does well this year...why doesn't DC/WB seriously start investing in animated theatrical releases going forward? Like, make animated movies akin to their direct to video releases but obviously with bigger budgets and more ambitious scripts? Could that be a potential profitable venture for them? Imagine an animated theatrical version of Batman v. Superman for example with Conroy and Tim Daly.

Granted, Mask of the Phantasm was a financial dud even though it was released right in the heat of BATS' popularity so maybe it's not that simple, but its an idea.

Teen Titans Go to the Movie is likely very cheap to make, it doesn't need to do $100m WW to be profitable. The DTVs do the job just fine for WB/DC without the added expense of distributing to theaters.

The only DC characters I could potentially see getting the animation treatment is The Metal Men and that has wiggle room to make changes to the story. Big Hero 6 the movie is very loosely based on the comic book so a CGI Metal Men movie could have potential

 

[Vaibow]

As i was saying elsewhere, to the GA, Cavill's lip wasn't obvious unless you knew and Superman was liked in JL.

Cavill is so dedicated to the role and a great guy for PR.

Superman: Man of tomorrow; featuring Shazam cast and the Rock as Black Adam and script being more character based should do just fine.

 

[writer0327]

A Superman trilogy with Brainiac, Mongul, and Metallo and I'd die a happy man.

 

[2kt09]

God damn...that animated idea is a really hard one to shake off.
There are so many DC projects that just couldn't get made that would be even cheaper to do animated.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I am 100% certain Patty Jenkins was *deliberately* ignoring the BvS backstory. This wasn't "weird contradiction", this was "I think the prior movie made a terrible, terrible choice, and I am retconning that bugger".

Gadot admitted that WB didn't have Wondy's back story fully established when BvS was filmed. That's why her character was nearly unrecognizable until the end of the movie. Jenkins version could have fixed that mistake *if* Justice League didn't make a point of having Bruce scold Diana for being a no-show for nearly a century. WB should have just cut their losses instead of trying to milk a storyline that paints Wonder Woman in such an uncharacteristic way.