All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - Part 3

[SuperDaniel]

I personally think that Hal Jordan was never that great of a character. What got me really interested in GL was his downfall and Kyle Rayner.

But anyways, the movie seems to me pretty faithful to the comics so IDK wtf is the problem.

I could care less because the only characters that I really love are Batman and Superman.

I still think the Flash needs to be a TV series again and they should make a cool movie about him.

WW I dont really care even though the animated movie was pretty good!

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I do hope the excessive cost of Green Lantern forces them to scale back CGI and switch to practical effects.

Agree completely.

 

[GreenKToo]

Yup, the bad reviews about GL really sucks. I can't help but wonder if it makes WB re-think things, especially so if it bombs.
They should have had a clue GL was in trouble when the CG suit was hated by most. But no, they know best.
I'm still hoping it can make enough to warrant making other films like Flash, GA, etc.
It's not rocket science. Hire a good director and actors, writers, FX company, and have plenty of action. Give us what we want to see, not what YOU want us to see.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I do hope the excessive cost of Green Lantern forces them to scale back CGI and switch to practical effects.

Agree completely.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Green Lantern has zero baring on The Dark Knight Rises and The Man of Steel.

 

[Marvin]

What does have baring on Man Of Steel however is the most cluttered December in the history of cinema.
jeez.

next christmas looks like an entire summer in itself, the Aztecs/Myans were right after all.

Superman can't catch a break.

 

[Rust]

Batman has 2 hugely successful movies out and he's cool. Everybody wants to be Batman, so TDKR is pretty safe. I guess nobody wants to be Green Lantern then. Does anybody want to be Superman?

 

[SuperDaniel]

Hopefully because its about time a movie about Superman is great so people can leave Donner in the past.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Batman has 2 hugely successful movies out and he's cool. Everybody wants to be Batman, so TDKR is pretty safe.

Bah. The public is already showing signs of getting bored with the character, at least in my experience.

 

[GreenKToo]

Hopefully WB will take to heart all the complaints of the fake looking CG in GL and make sure Supes is done right. You can't just throw something out there these days and expect the fans and public to eat it up. Its got to look real, even if it is a fantasy/sci fi film.

 

[Rust]

Yeah, well THOR looked pretty CG'd sometimes and had some cheesy FX as well, but people ate it up fine.

 

[Sith Scotti]

Bah. The public is already showing signs of getting bored with the character, at least in my experience.

Your confusing Superman & Batman . . Batman is doing just fine with the public . Supes needs a better pr agent and a reimaging desperately

 

[Superman2007]

Hopefully WB will take to heart all the complaints of the fake looking CG in GL and make sure Supes is done right. You can't just throw something out there these days and expect the fans and public to eat it up. Its got to look real, even if it is a fantasy/sci fi film.

Sony Imageworks are back to underwhelm again with Green Lantern, again, it seems...

 

[The Batman]

The reaction to GL is exactly why I didnt want MOS to be another origin movie. One of the problems people seem to have is that its yet another tale of a dude "Getting powers and learning responsiblity".

 

[Superman2007]

The reaction to GL is exactly why I didnt want MOS to be another origin movie. One of the problems people seem to have is that its yet another tale of a dude "Getting powers and learning responsiblity".

That's not really the fault of it being an origin story, but really an origin story being told in a non-compelling way. If you think about it, Batman Begins could've been told in a way that would have made it seem kind of boring. However, the structure and the inter-cutting with Bruce's training in Asia made it fresh and exciting.

 

[El Payaso]

Bah. The public is already showing signs of getting bored with the character, at least in my experience.

You mean getting bored as in TDK dvd's still making almost a million dollars a week?

The reaction to GL is exactly why I didnt want MOS to be another origin movie. One of the problems people seem to have is that its yet another tale of a dude "Getting powers and learning responsiblity".

Where did you get this idea from?

 

[The Batman]

That's not really the fault of it being an origin story, but really an origin story being told in a non-compelling way. If you think about it, Batman Begins could've been told in a way that would have made it seem kind of boring. However, the structure and the inter-cutting with Bruce's training in Asia made it fresh and exciting.

Not really. Nolan could've told in a linear manner and it still wouldve been good. BB was made before comic origin stories started getting cliche. Not to mention that, along with SM1 and IM1, it set the tone for other comic origin movies this decade.

El Payaso, I got that idea from some of the reviews ive read. It seems like some of them are tired of how these first comic movies are being told.

 

[sf2]

i thought GL is more famous / known than Thor / Ironman.

 

[El Payaso]

El Payaso, I got that idea from some of the reviews ive read. It seems like some of them are tired of how these first comic movies are being told.

i thought GL is more famous / known than Thor / Ironman.

It is. But apparently its movie is not as good/appealing.

 

[Superman2007]

Not really. Nolan could've told in a linear manner and it still wouldve been good. BB was made before comic origin stories started getting cliche. Not to mention that, along with SM1 and IM1, it set the tone for other comic origin movies this decade.

Look at Daredevil(especially the theatrical version)...after that origin story was told, I was really dreading Batman Begins. I thought, "Why bother with an origin? It's going to be so predictable?" I simplified it to this:
1. Young boy happy
2. Young boy's parents die.
3. Boy becomes a man and fights crime now

So obviously I was surprised with how layered and incredible Batman Begins was. Star Trek, Iron Man, and Casino Royale have all shown us that the origin stories can be really successful even if we have some pre-conceived notions of what they'll be like. Origin stories don't have to be cliche, and predictable(which makes them feel like boring set-up for a sequel).

I haven't seen Green Lantern but if I don't like it wont be because its an origin story, it will be because it's not an interesting story.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Thor is a name more people recognise because he's a norse god. We learned about him in school over here (England).

And when I was growing up, we had no Green Lantern tv shows... We had barely anything DC over here actually.

I remember Spiderman, Fantastic 4, Hulk, Silver Surfer, He-Man, Iron Man and X-Men.

How I turned out a DC girl, I'll never know lol.

I don't know what was around for you guys at that time (90s), but I know GL is very very unknown in this country, and that has a lot to do with the fact that my generation (20 somethings) didn't grow up with him.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Your confusing Superman & Batman . . Batman is doing just fine with the public . Supes needs a better pr agent and a reimaging desperately

Thanks, I'm well aware.

But I do know several hardcore Batman fans who for the longest time didn't know that Anne Hathaway was cast as Selina Kyle until I told them.

 

[SuperDaniel]

Well, i guess Superman can be space epic too, more than GL, at least as movies are concerned.

 

[GreenKToo]

Thor is a name more people recognise because he's a norse god. We learned about him in school over here (England).

And when I was growing up, we had no Green Lantern tv shows... We had barely anything DC over here actually.

I remember Spiderman, Fantastic 4, Hulk, Silver Surfer, He-Man, Iron Man and X-Men.

How I turned out a DC girl, I'll never know lol.

I don't know what was around for you guys at that time (90s), but I know GL is very very unknown in this country, and that has a lot to do with the fact that my generation (20 somethings) didn't grow up with him.

I may be wrong, but as for as I know, GL has never had a series here (U.S.), save for being on Superfriends and JL. If he ever had one, I missed it.

 

[KyleDW2]

Green Lantern has zero baring on The Dark Knight Rises and The Man of Steel.

I would guess that Green Lantern's success has some bearing on every other DC hero. Its the first one that doesn't start with Super or Bat to come out, and with DC historically having zero confidence in making movies of their other heroes, they need a success to give them a booster shot.

Superman and Batman though? I think they'll be fine. They're more proven moneymakers.