All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - Part 48

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  1. Thread Manager Moderator

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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]456221[/split]
     
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  3. craigdbfan Avenger

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    He looks like he's about to start crying. So, yeah whatever he's racing towards is definitely important.
     
  4. Lencho01 Shazoogle! Shazoogle!

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    Are you going to make sure each new thread starts with? :yay:
     
  5. gkokujin Sidekick

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    I sure as hell don't want a light hearted happy go lucky Superman. Not even the Animated Series was like that, nor any Justice League incarnations.
     
  6. TheFlamingCoco Avenger

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    ^ Nor Alex Ross'. Speaking of which, it seems that Snyder's ability to recreate comic panels finds itself in MOS. [​IMG]
     
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  8. Visceral A Shadow

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    does anyone know where to get hi res shots off the trailer. can't seem to find any place.
     
  9. Rowsdower! Avenger

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    I'm not sure who Grace is, but even if her opinions are really well-respected, I honestly don't see how anyone could trash that trailer. I seriously don't. It was magnificent. Hell, even Johanna Robinson of Pajiba (a self-described Snyder hater) loved it.
     
  10. afan Sidekick

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    Jonathan Kent...."I have to believe that you were sent her for a reason."

    Jor-el....."You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards. They will ?rise? (I think) behind you. They will stumble, they will fall, but in time they will join you in the sun. In time you will help them accomplish wonders."

    To me that reads as a pre-destined "saviour of Earth" Superman.

    Also and not necessarily a negative, does Kal-el leave Krypton prior to Zod's trial and sentencing, as we see Zod in manacles on what appears to be Krypton threatening ..."You believe your son is safe?.......I WILL FIND HIM?"
     
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  11. ConnorKon-El Amateur Film Nerd

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    God I love your avi !!!! Haha
    And yeah, it was a great trailer. I seriously don't understand how someone could not love that trailer.
    And speaking about Grace, a serious film doesn't mean it's going to be dark and gritty.
     
  12. Rowsdower! Avenger

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    Thanks, but I can't take credit for it! I got it over in the avvy thread.

    Yeah, if people can't understand that a film can be serious without being dark and gritty, I seriously question whether they've watched many movies at all. I mean, WTF? Not all drama or action is dark and gritty.

    To be honest, I don't even find Nolan's Batman films all that dark and gritty. When I think of dark and gritty movies, I think of films like I Saw the Devil and Martyrs.
     
  13. I SEE SPIDEY Eternal

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    Every film deserves it's own tone. If people want Reeve/Donner Superman pop in the DVD and call it an afternoon.
     
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    So much word sister!! This trailer did something very rare to me, it made me teared up damn it!!! Jor-El and Lara, Jonathan with his "You are my son"... As a father of a 11-year-old boy, I can relate. MOS seems to have the emotional depth, the heart most movies from the genre lack. I think many will cry at one moment or another with this film, at least the ones who are not corrupted by modern society's cynicism!! :woot: ;)
     
  15. TheFlamingCoco Avenger

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    Slightly OT, but with the Zod warning teaser we got to see "calm" Shannon, and in the full trailer he's totally freaking out. I'd say that we're scratching the surface of what looks like an amazing performance.
     
  16. fake Sidekick

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    She used to be "The Watcher" at Marvel. She was fired a year and a half ago and is with Bleeding Cool since.

    http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/13/marvel-fires-grace-randolph-as-their-watcher/
     
  17. ThePhantasm 2 sexy 4 a stormtrooper

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    I personally find the calm and cold Zod more scary than the screaming Zod.
     
  18. I SEE SPIDEY Eternal

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    I like over the top screamy villians more than calm ones, always have and always will.
     
  19. ThePhantasm 2 sexy 4 a stormtrooper

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    I like it used sparingly but effectively, like Lex's WROOOOOOOOONG in Superman Returns. Spacey's Lex was just the right sort of over-the-top without being annoying.
     
  20. Sharkboy Tell em Steve-Dave

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    Just a coincidence that a former Marvel employee doesn't like a DC film? Because a lot of her complaints sound a lot like nitpicking to justify pre conceived hatred of the film.

    ...or maybe I'm just bitter because someone I don't know doesn't like something I like...and is very eloquent about it. :woot:
     
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    Shamelessly stolen from a good friend
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  22. KalMart 239-Bean Irish Chili

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    I don't know if anyone's brought this up...and I'm kinda' hoping that it is the case...


    ...but in the trailer when Jor-El/Lara say "He'll be an outcast....they'll kill him." "He'll be a God to them.." Unlike the Brando 'destiny' part of STM...would they be talking about Krypton instead? It's been pointed out that Kal-El's birth is special in that it is natural and not engineered. So it's sort of like Children Of Men in terms of being a miracle that he was born. So the implication is how it will change things on Krypton...that Krypton will see him as different or God-like or a source of fear. And that could be what starts up a huge 'holy war' and leads to his escaping, Zod's obsessive search for him, and ultimately the destruction of Krypton.

    I'd also be kind of an interesting reversal in that he escapes a place where he has some sort of destiny or symbolism...a source of awe and/or fear and jealousy and the desire to possess his power...to a place where he could 'start from scratch'....where the 'imagine a child...' part of Jor-El's speech really means something, as opposed to the almost religious radicalism that would meet his existence on Krypton.

    I hope that's the case, and it also puts a lot of those 'STM-like' points on Krypton in a whole new light. I honestly thing that really would put a cool spin on this whole thing.

    When you think of Krypton, were talking a world much more 'advanced' than ours...but that may not necessarily be a good thing. As technology and science has grown, so has religious (for lack of a better term) radicalism as a 'yin to that yang', so to speak. Zod could very well be a reflection of history's greatest radical zealots using a twisted sense of 'faith' or ideology to attain power. It only stands to reason that in a society where natural birth doesn't happen, this would be seen as a sign or miracle...and just the sort of thing radical zealots would want to capitalize on. Or...Zod is threatened by the power and influence implied by the miracle birth, rendering his ideology obsolete.....so he seeks to eliminate it by killing Kal-El, which he may portray as an unholy abomination.

    Hence..."You think your son is safe...?" "I will find him!", and essentially a Kryptonian Jihad launched by Zod.

    We see that giant mecha 'Kraken' thing....that could be something that Zod launches as a weapon, but it goes out of control and ends up destroying the whole planet. So he escapes, or is protected by being caught and banished to the Phantom Zone, and eventually follows Kal-El to Earth to finish what he set out to do on Krypton: either possess his as an ally or kill him as a threat to their power.


    On the other hand, I kinda' hope it isn't true because I just ruined the surprise. :oldrazz: Just some random musings.
     
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  23. Nemeres Easy, miss. I've got you.

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    The trailer in Latin American Spanish, for the curious ones. I think Superman's voice sounds amazing, I was fearing they were gonna get the same one from SR, which sounded a bit too "old and mature" for my taste.

    [YT]BddCj2i5pRw&feature=youtu.be[/YT]
     
  24. X Knight Straight Edge

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    I like how the trailers have gradually built upon each other. each one revealing just a bit more.
     
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