All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - Part 5

[HighFivingMF]

Wasn't Singer's sequel supposed to have Brainiac as the main villain? Or does he mean that how Brainiac was supposed to question why Superman doesn't interfere with wars and such?

I think it was supposed to be about Kryptonians stopping by. I could be wrong though.

 

[I Am The Knight]

What did it say?

The Tweet?

CAN'T WAIT FOR MOS, YOU WONDER IF FANS KNOW SOME OF THE PITCH SINGER MADE FOR A RETURNS SEQUEL IS GOING TO END UP IN THE FILM.

 

[BH/HHH]

The Tweet?

Interesting

 

[TheBat812]

please more info...................

http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/

''Can't wait for MOS, you wonder if fans know some of the pitch Singer made for a Returns sequel is going to end up in the film.''

So, the kid is back! t:

 

[HighFivingMF]

Did some Googling. Not sure if this is a true synopsis of the Superman Returns sequel. But the other Kryptonian thing sounds like it could be related to what we were getting.:

TMS started just a few years after the incidents that we saw in Superman Returns. Kal-El is doing what Superman does best, Lois Lane is raising her kid Jason, who of course is Superman’s child and the world is getting use to having Superman back.

Now there are storyline threads that go back to Superman Returns, one is the on going plot of Superman’s original reason of going back to Krypton. He has always wondered if he truly is the last Son of Krypton.

Remember new Krypton that Lex created with crystals he stole from the Fortress of Solitude and Kryptonite that Supes launched into to space that nearly killed him?

So new Krypton continues to grow in space and has become an almost perfect sphere. It is now the size of a small moon.

Besides giving Humans something to admire at night, Earth new satellite has also brought some unexpected attention from a galaxy far, far away.

A massive spaceship arrives Earth’s orbit, Superman flys up to meet the spacecraft and we are introduced to our out of this world visitor.

Superman quickly finds out that our visitor is also a Kryptonian survivor who has been traveling the known galaxies and was able to detect Kryptonian technology thanks to our new green/black satellite that has started to orbit the Earth.

Superman finally has found a Kryptonian buddy and starts showing him around the planet, a planet full of problems, disease, famine, crime and nations at war with each other.

Our new Kryptonian friend asks Superman why, with all his power, is he not changing the world for the better. Why is he not getting rid of famine, disease and war? Of course fans know that Superman has always been told, or better said instructed, not to interfere with Earth’s development.

Superman explains that he is not allowed to interfere but his Krypto buddy tells him that with their powers they are required to “interfere,” Superman disagrees.

Krypto buddy decides to take charge and starts “interfering” from day one. One of the first things that he does is get involved in a political mess that is heating up between two third world nations.

War breaks out between these two nations but before any real battle breaks our Krypto buddy interferes and lays waste to these two Armies.

He declares to the world that he will not allow anymore wars and/or the destruction of our planet. He is declaring a “War Free” planet and for those who disagree he will have to deal with them.

The major nations of the planet applaud his actions and all agree to an immediate worldwide peace. In return he promises to share technology, fight hunger, famine and disease.

The population of the world rejoices and any small pockets of resistance is quickly squashed by Krypto buddy or even the world governments.

Superman has now become a pariah, the way the world sees it, he has been here for years and had kept technology that could have saved many of the worlds problems.

Superman starts getting a bit suspicious of Krypto buddy and decides to go talk to him. He goes to his spaceship and has a revelation. This massive ship is full of hundreds if not thousands of identical bodies aboard, yep, clones of Krypto buddy, in stasis.

So Superman digs a bit more inside the “computer” system, which is familiar to him since it’s Kryptonian technology just like the Fortress of Solitude.

Superman finds out that Krypto buddy is actually an artificial intelligence from Krypton that has evolved since the destruction of their world.

He escaped Krypton just like Kal-El did and his real name is Brainiac. He has been going from planet to planet, taking their technology, helping these worlds reach a relative perfection and then he destroys them and moves on.

Superman also finds out that he was actually responsible for the destruction of Krypton and tries to warn the leaders of the world but is confronted by Braniac. A massive battle ensues and Superman is about to defeat his foe but right just before Brainiac downloads his conscience into one oh his other clones.

Superman realizes that he must destroy this massive ship along with all the clones aboard. After another massive battle he is able to disable the ship, destroy the clones and the new Braniac but right before the ship is destroyed the Braniac main frame does a local search for another body that he could download in to, it has to be Kryptonian, and he finds another one on Earth, Superman’s kid
Jason White.

So Brainiac uses Kryptonian technology and beams/download itself into Jason’s body and this causes causes him to age and grow into a full adult but with Brainiac in complete control.

Superman realizes what just happened and rushes to confront his very own son who is now possessed by Brainiac.

Is Jason still there or is it all Brainiac? It’s all Braniac and Superman knows what he has to do, he must defeat Brainiac at all costs or the planet and it’s inhabitants will be doomed.

It’s a battle between two gods but Superman has already been run ragged and beat down pretty bad in his previous battles of the day. Brainiac has the upper hand and Superman is trying to not to do any permanent damage to Jason’s body.

Every time Brainiac is defeated in the past he simply tries to download to another clone and leaves that body completely brain dead but with no other bodies left, will Jason survive? The answer in no.

http://www.ramascreen.com/the-plot-for-bryan-singers-superman-returns-sequel-that-almost-was

 

[Shorshie]

Did some Googling. Not sure if this is a true synopsis of the Superman Returns sequel. But the other Kryptonian thing sounds like it could be related to what we were getting.:



http://www.ramascreen.com/the-plot-for-bryan-singers-superman-returns-sequel-that-almost-was

I have no interest at all in a plot that stupid.

 

[Showtime]

Interesting

I wonder what he means?

 

[Superman2007]

Did some Googling. Not sure if this is a true synopsis of the Superman Returns sequel. But the other Kryptonian thing sounds like it could be related to what we were getting.:



http://www.ramascreen.com/the-plot-for-bryan-singers-superman-returns-sequel-that-almost-was

There are some good ideas in there but the notion of Superman having to kill his own son, so that the movie can have it's second act "sacrifice", is even more stupid than Superman having a son at all.

No wonder WB had to toss this sequel idea out the window. My response, if I were a WB executive, would be: "How do you kill a kid in a Superman movie?! We're not even killing kids in Batman movies!!"

Furthermore what would Superman and Lois be doing in the third movie?
They wouldn't even be able to sneak a smile into the third movie knowing that a kid had to die in the second movie.

Just awful.

 

[El Payaso]

Furthermore what would Superman and Lois be doing in the third movie?
They wouldn't even be able to sneak a smile into the third movie knowing that a kid had to die in the second movie.

Just awful.

Amnesia kiss.

 

[Lily Adler]

Yeah I like some of the ideas but that plot sounds horrible.

 

[Micromind]

I remember reading somewhere that there were two (or maybe 3) rough drafts prepared for Singer's MOS, this was one of them and it is not unusual that there are rewrites and modifications till the final script is approved.

The kid aws always going to be a source of problem for Singer's Superman franchise, If WB had decided to allow Singer's Sequel, I am sure that Kid would have lived but most probably he would have been made depowered kid using Brainyac's tech.

 

[Dozerman]

I am sure at this point that the kid would be older superboys age and would probably not die but be disabled and out of the pic giving a open end for a third movie it would have been really nice to see brainiac though

 

[ChickenScratch]

He would have no powers. Kryto-dna didn't take ... or Cyclops was really the dad all along. Some dumb crap that flies in the face of what they already said.

 

[JAK®]

There are some good ideas in there but the notion of Superman having to kill his own son, so that the movie can have it's second act "sacrifice", is even more stupid than Superman having a son at all.

No wonder WB had to toss this sequel idea out the window. My response, if I were a WB executive, would be: "How do you kill a kid in a Superman movie?! We're not even killing kids in Batman movies!!"

Furthermore what would Superman and Lois be doing in the third movie?
They wouldn't even be able to sneak a smile into the third movie knowing that a kid had to die in the second movie.

Just awful.

Back in the days when SR was still new and a sequel was still a possibility, all the fans could think about was how Jason could be killed in the sequel.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

If someone pitched that to me as comedy fanfiction, I'd STILL think it sounded ridiculous.

Here's what I think they should take from this idea:

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[souperman]

I was thinking about the question of how Superman shaves or cuts his hair.

Maybe Martha saved Clark's baby teeth and made a shaver or trimmer out of it!

... it's just a theory...

 

[Superman2007]

Back in the days when SR was still new and a sequel was still a possibility, all the fans could think about was how Jason could be killed in the sequel.

I know and I thought that they were being psychotic back then, too.

Beyond a few minor issues, I'm a fan of Superman Returns. I found it to be cerebral and epic, so I was ready to see a sequel from Singer that kicked things into overdrive. But I didn't want the kid to die the sequel. The most that I was ok with when it came to Jason was having him de-powered.

 

[Superman2007]

Amnesia kiss.

The plot device that keeps on giving...

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

Amnesia kiss.

The plot device that keeps on giving...

 

[El Payaso]

Back in the days when SR was still new and a sequel was still a possibility, all the fans could think about was how Jason could be killed in the sequel.

Heh. Exact same thing happened with Rachel after Batman Begins. Best thing that character ever did was dying.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

Back in the days when SR was still new and a sequel was still a possibility, all the fans could think about was how Jason could be killed in the sequel.

That was the writers own fault. They pretty much wrote themselves into a corner on that one...

It was obvious (in my mind anyway) that if a sequel was to be made that Jason would have to end up being some form of threat to Superman. Which might have been due to an enemy of Superman using Jason against him or the kid developing some kind of mutation due to him having a mixture of Human/Kryptonian DNA which makes him dangerous to the world or directly dangerous to Superman.

I'm just glad it never got made.

The only good thing in that movie was Brandon Routh.

 

[El Payaso]

That was the writers own fault. They pretty much wrote themselves into a corner on that one...

Same did the writes in TDK with Batman becoming a fugitive. He either spends the rest of his days as a fugitive (not the Batman we know) or he admits he lied to everyone (not exactly a nice thing to say to people) to redeem himself. I heard they're still making the sequel though.

 

[sf2]

Is it a copycat from the starwar story? The father face off the son? Singer really in love with tv drama.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Borrowing from Singer, eh? Awesome. I really wanted another movie where Superman never talks and gives blank stares 99% of the time.

 

[El Payaso]

Is it a copycat from the starwar story? The father face off the son? Singer really in love with tv drama.

You suggesting Star Wars was something of an original story?