All Things Superman: An Open Discussion (Spoilers) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 94

[Alien Anal]

I wish the movie looked like this instead of what we got.

 

[sf2]

I want to love this movie, more than anything. But I can't. I can't love a Superman movie where Superman shows absolutely no concern, none, to those who have died.

Really??? Which scenes r they???

I just don't understand why people accuse him of thungs he didn't do???

Did u see he refused to join Zod's plan??? Did u see him chose to stand with the people n let go his own kind by destroying the FOS; the krpyton revival only hope?

It's so weird that people can see things didn't show in the movie but can't see things that are in the movie.

Simple mind boggling.

 

[sf2]

The only thing I found that added insult to injury was the lack of appropriateness when Superman and Lois decided to make out. A ton of people had just died and they decide that it's ok to french kiss under the raining ashes of the dead civilians of Metropolis.

Do u know that superman n lois would die too? They just barely escaped fr being sucked into the black hole!!! For christ's sake, they can't be relieved n glad that they were still alive??? U know... if u just escaped fr death, n before ur eyes stands the girl or boy whom u have feeling for, it's totally appropriate for u to hug her n kiss her.


Did u watch the movie?

 

[HighFivingMF]

I want to love this movie, more than anything. But I can't. I can't love a Superman movie where Superman shows absolutely no concern, none, to those who have died.

He does though... So love away.

 

[Comics N' Toons]

Michael Shannon made this movie AND Cavill has the best Superman voice since REEVE (including any voice actor). Cavill is Superman!

 

[GremlinZilla89]

People are making up crap just to complain. If this was a Spider-Man movie, or Thor, or Batman or Cap or anybody else and the hero shared a kiss like the one in this movie nobody would take umbrage with it. I bet my freakin' life. But its SUPERMAN so every single move he makes must be perfect. If Batman just had a good smooch with like Zantana or Catwoman after a huge battle people would cheer and geek out. But nope. Not for Superman, who must display a set of ethics he barely has in the freakin' comics for this one film to make fanboys happy.

Do you people know how many films have kisses like this? 100s of action films have kisses when s--t just went down and it's accepted and never mentioned. But when Superman does it he's an uncaring thug. Where the F--K is this double standard coming from?

 

[Tra-El]

Where the F--K is this double standard coming from?

"Gee! Golly! Swell Ms. Lane!"

^That.

 

[charl_huntress]

The only thing I found that added insult to injury was the lack of appropriateness when Superman and Lois decided to make out. A ton of people had just died and they decide that it's ok to french kiss under the raining ashes of the dead civilians of Metropolis.

Supes and Lois and have tongued it up plenty of times in the comics while surrounded by rubble and after he has just fougt a huge battle that's destroyed nearly half of Metropolis. Though I do see your point.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

Supes and Lois and have tongued it up plenty of times in the comics while surrounded by rubble and after he has just fougt a huge battle that's destroyed nearly half of Metropolis. Though I do see your point.

Of course he has. So have many other heroes. It would be nice if people actually remembered normal/usual aspects of the comics they claim to know in and out.

 

[charl_huntress]

I also thought the kiss was appropriate because he thought the battle was over and done with. It was like a kiss of joy and happiness, which I didn't begrudge him or Lois.

 

[craigdbfan]

Didn't work well on film though. I couldn't care less if it has been done in the comics.

Certain aspects don't translate well across such a visceral medium and that's one of them. I enjoyed Man of Steel by the way otherwise I wouldn't have given it a 10/10 on my first viewing.

That's one aspect though that didn't sit well personally with me. Gremlin I'd suggest you also calm down. Your posts are foaming at the mouth.

 

[charl_huntress]

I get you Craig. I have a friend who is disgusted with this movie because he killed. He was so pissed that it happened at the end because he couldn't get his money back...lol

 

[Comics N' Toons]

Who doesn't love a hot, wet kiss after a lot of destruction in their city after you open a can of whup-ass? I know I do!

 

[charl_huntress]

Well if it's so bad why has no one ever really complained about in the comics or cartoons. I get Craig's point that it can play off badly, but it didn't for me. He'd just won the battle, or thought he did, and saved the girl he's got some emotions for. Every time he saved her from something he looked like he wanted to kiss her, so maybe that was why it didn't bother me so much. It was like Supes finally said eff-it. I'm kiss her right now.

 

[MrMaooz]

The kiss was hot.

 

[charl_huntress]

Yes, it was. And I shall say no more so I can stay on topic.

 

[Herolee10]

While watching the film again, one of the things that I definitely appreciated in seeing was the immediate look of regret that was on Zod's face after he had killed Jor-el. It definitely makes his statement to Superman later on about that act haunting him for the rest of his life more believable.

Heck, even when he deleted his A.I on the scout ship, it felt like Zod didn't exactly find pleasure in doing so.

I definitely appreciate the added layers to their history together on Krypton as opposed to the one dimensional outlook that Zod has on Jor-el in Donner's version.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Some complained about Shannon as Zod not stealing the spotlight in the film in the way that Joker in TDK did. But I found Zod compelling and the performance fine, with nuances, like what Lee mentions above, that gave Zod extra dimensions. Much as BB though this was Superman's movie. The big scenery chewing, overpowering villain role will come when we get Lex. Snyder and Co.... Let's shoot for the moon with this, okay?

 

[Herolee10]

Honestly, out of all of the comic book villains that we've had this year, Zod definitely tops them in terms of layers and execution imho.

And for all the faults that MOS has, I don't think there's any argument when it comes to saying that it's at least a well made film in terms of a technical standpoint.

I mean doing a modern day Superman film with what the character is capable of doing is no easy task. It'd be easy to really fall short when it comes to doing his action scenes.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I know you would have liked a more vibrant color to the film overall, but looking at it on Blu... Man, it's such a texture filled film. It's such a big break from how most of Snyder's films have looked to me. And considering the amount of green screen work, it looks very naturalistic.

 

[Herolee10]

I know you would have liked a more vibrant color to the film overall, but looking at it on Blu... Man, it's such a texture filled film. It's such a big break from how most of Snyder's films have looked to me. And considering the amount of green screen work, it looks very naturalistic.

That is true.

If anything though, I wouldn't have minded if they could have found a way to film some of the fight scenes between Zod and Superman (when they were on the ground) in an actual street/location as opposed to filming it all behind a green screen.

After seeing so much naturalistic setting when they were on Earth, it felt kind of strange to see it suddenly moved to a CGI city for some of those moments.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

That is true.

If anything though, I wouldn't have minded if they could have found a way to film some of the fight scenes between Zod and Superman (when they were on the ground) in an actual street/location as opposed to filming it all behind a green screen.

After seeing so much naturalistic setting when they were on Earth, it felt kind of strange to see it suddenly moved to a CGI city for some of those moments.

I think that is a reason, not the but A reason for the color vibrancy level. I think it helped to keep things very uniform. The totally outdoor shots, Lois in Perry's office and Kent farm stuff don't come off much different to me than the shots of Zod and Supes biffing and bamming all around the city. But that's me.

 

[Herolee10]

True; heck, this film does separate itself from a good deal of superhero/comic book genre films due to its color palette.

And Metropolis felt a lot bigger than any other interpretation that I've seen of it in the big screen as well.

 

[Smallville13]

Michael Shannon made this movie AND Cavill has the best Superman voice since REEVE (including any voice actor). Cavill is Superman!

Honestly I think Henry and Henry alone really made this movie and carried it through it's areas where it didn't work on his own back alone. And I couldn't be happier about that.

Part of this is because of the material Shannon and Adams were working with was perhaps not as good as it could have been. But the same could even be said about some of Cavill's scenes, but he really did make it work and completely became Superman. It was so evident how important Cavill thought this role was for him, and all his hard work really came across. I really did love that.

I feared that he was going to get overshadowed by the Oscar cast around him in his own origin film, but that just wasn't the case. Even if Superman barely had any lines, he just exuded the confidence and stole every scene.

 

[charl_huntress]

So we are supposed to assume Hamilton is dead? It strikes me as odd that after he activated the phantom device we don't get more confirmation. Did Syder confirm he was dead? It just seems so strange to me.