And the new Punisher is...

[rogue trooper]

Are you seriously saying all of this merely because Thomas Jane left the project?



Think about this, now. The film would be a sloppy mess if he became the Punisher the very next day and not went after his family's killers. What kind of a plot would that be if he just turned vigilante over night, then decided to hunt after his family's killers another day. Believe it or not, The Punisher came BEFORE alot of those films. The films are essentially copying off of the Punisher, not the other way around. Besides, The Punisher was an origin story. It was a revenge story, then at the end of the film, he finally became The Punisher.


I agree. It was basically Punisher Year One.

 

[rogue trooper]

^ Keep in mind he's not even dressed or made up like The Punisher yet. Someone should take that pic and give him some black hair and crop his head and neck off onto a Punisher body. He's got the look.

If Jane's body seems too small for Stevenson,then try it on Dolph Lundgren's Punisher.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Oh man, if Thomas Jane actually LIKED the piece-of-crap script from the first film, but left because he didn't like the one for the sequel, it must be REALLY bad.

 

[Jazner]

I've never seen "Rome," so I can't speak for this guy's ability. Judging from the picture he appears to look the part, anyway.

Still, I'm a Jane-guy, through and through. I originally thought TJ was a ridiculous choice for The Punisher, until I saw the movie, at which point I thought he nailed the character. Several friends of mine, who are die-hard Punisher readers, also agreed.

TJ was the victim of a mediocre script and an undercut budget. As far as I was concerned, he alone was really the only reason to watch the 2004 film, but I own it on DVD for that very reason.

Note to Marvel: Get a good script, get a decent budget ($60 million) and BRING BACK THOMAS JANE!!!!

 

[blightedmetal]

I'll give the new guy a chance and hope that the sequel will be awesome t:.

That being said, i don't know why a lot of people are so quick to bash thomas jane. i too am disappointed that he's gone, but what's done is done. i suppose the punisher fan interprets his leaving as an act of treachery or something. as for having his own agenda and the whole taxi driver thing, i recall that when it was time to stand up to lionsgate, demanding a sequel and writing in about what it should be like, a lot of fans mentioned the taxi driver film among one of the many movies they liked and how the punisher sequel should be in the vein of films like that. so however thomas jane interpreted that, it seemed like he was just trying to back the fans and make a movie that would appeal to them. and the fans turn around and call him an *******. sucks for him.

here's to hoping Stevenson kicks ass in Punisher 2.

 

[Dangerous]

I knew who Jane was before his casting...never heard of this guy.
But I guess I'll give it a chance. I kinda feel sorry for this guy because it is going to be hard for most fans to accept anyone else. I admit I am having a hard time of it.

Not me, I'm a big fan and visually this guy looks way more like Castle.
No disrespect to Jane- he was good in the first film and he could kick my ass, but the most crucial aspect for Punisher, he was lacking- and that is that look of menace or threat in his eyes.

Jane was solid but he did not have that crazy look in his eyes were he could just flip at any second. This dude looks more threatening. All he needs is to get in the gym and dedicate himself to the part in the same way Jane did.
If he can do that I will be very optimistic about this.

 

[Dangerous]

Also this thing has GOT to be filmed in NYC.

 

[Advanced Dark]

It needs to take place in NYC. Filming there would be damn too expensive.

 

[Warhammer]

Warhammer said:
"Are you seriously saying all of this merely because Thomas Jane left the project?"

And to answer that:

No, but Jane's absence is part of the reason. The main fact is that everybody who has seemed to get a glimpse at the script(s) is reported to saying that it's not very good. I mean Jane, who seemed pretty happy with the 1st movie AND respected the character, did leave because of the script. He said himself that it wasn't a great representation of the chracter. And if He felt the first film was a good representation (I only see the true Punisher within the last 20 minutes or so of the film) does he really know the chracter at all? Or is he screwing with us like MSJ said he knew Ghost Rider? The only solution: Wait and see the film.

Keep in mind just how much a script can change during filming.
I do agree with your post, though. Hopefully, Jane wasn't doing a MSJ on us, but we'll never know. I guess we just have to wait and see the film, or at least a teaser.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Also nobody has seen the extensive rewrite from Marcum and Holloway. They're not done yet. I'll die if they show a scene of Castle watching Taxi Driver. LOL

 

[Brendan]

That's probably why TJ quit was everyone was probably putting too much humor in their scripts where The Punisher isn't supposed to be a funny guy.

 

[SWAT]

Please, shut. the. ****. up. I'm so sick of hearing about "Tom say'd this, he said that." Oh, I HEARD YOU THE FIRST HUNDRED AND ONE TIME! Lay off! LEt us all move on... Please.

If Tom wanted Taxi Driver... He'd remake it. O.K?

 

[UltimateJustin]

Modern day 616 Punisher is a quick-witted jokester who likes to call people an ass-hat and say things like "when you and scully are done wrapping up this particular X-File..." even though its 2007 and no one remembers that show.

 

[jaguarr]

If the script is really as sh1tty as it's rumored to be, this guy's got his work cut out for him.

jag

 

[Spade]

Scripts are tricky things, though. Everyone who read the Spider-Man 3 script said that the public would embrace it with open arms, when in reality Sam's vision turned it into a film with an incredibly mixed opinion (most of which leaned towards the negative). When Prime Directive- the working title for Transformers- hit the Internet people dissected the thing down and said it was a horrible adaptation. The final product barely changes the script, yet the same people hail it as a great film.

In the end, a bad script can be realized into a great film and a great script can be realized into a movie that's less than itself. I'm a little skeptical of the negative barrage. I have no doubt that Arad is capable of backing a horrible script, but I'd love to know a little about this thing before I just up and say "this movie is doomed."

 

[ObakeTora]

Kiriyama Kun,

atarashii punisher wa nan to omoima****a ka? suki deshoo?

 

[jaguarr]

Any script that scares off the returning star of the franchise and multiple directors can't have a lot going for it, to be honest.

jag

 

[blind_fury]

Isn't there a major re-write happening?

Or is that only the Wolverine script?

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Yes there is. Marcum & Holloway who did Favreau's Iron Man script are doing it. There's a thread about that here.

 

[Advanced Dark]

That's probably why TJ quit was everyone was probably putting too much humor in their scripts where The Punisher isn't supposed to be a funny guy.

The script isn't an action comedy. I can tell you that. It's more brutally violent than the 1st one and that's before the current re-write.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Tom Jane was better than I expected but wasn't brutal enough. He was too much of a pretty boy for the role. Stevenson will do far better job and do the Punisher justice.

 

[Spade]

Kiriyama Kun,

atarashii punisher wa nan to omoima****a ka? suki deshoo?

*credit to this response goes to Ryo Jin, as I'm not fluent in romanized Japanese*

Hard to say. He seems like the tough almost-thugish killer of the MAX print, but I'd actually have to see a trailer to this mystery script to really tell. I don't think he's horrible, though I was a bit apprehensive at Jane being replaced, and if he does well then it'll be worth it I suppose.

 

[Sebastos]

Keep in mind just how much a script can change during filming.
I do agree with your post, though. Hopefully, Jane wasn't doing a MSJ on us, but we'll never know. I guess we just have to wait and see the film, or at least a teaser.

That's very true. Take SR as an example, during filming, I recall Singer wanting to chance some things from the script.

 

[jrd550]

Is it a reboot or continuation?

 

[Savage]

It's a Continuation.