Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom General Discussion thread

[OnTheAir]

 

[OnTheAir]

 

[B]

Being truthful, the trailer(s) for this all look decent yet unimpressive, a bit like the first. Hard to really tell how this will fair at the BO because even though I thought the first was alright, I didn't think it was a $1b film.

I'm at least pleased James Gunn has to my knowledge, thus far, kept his trap shut about this as opposed to trying to use his new found platform within DC to hype up every recent film that has come out, which so far has all backfired.

I'll be very surprised if this does well at the BO & by well I mean coming anywhere close to the $1.1b or so the first made. I think it will do well to clear $600m given some of the baggage it has.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I suppose it doesn't truly matter how it does at the box office anymore. They are playfully framing this as the ''last'' AQUAMAN movie (for now anyway).

Yes, of course WB will care how it does, but I think they just want to get this era of DC movies over with.

 

[B]

I suppose it doesn't truly matter how it does at the box office anymore. They are playfully framing this as the ''last'' AQUAMAN movie (for now anyway).

Yes, of course WB will care how it does, but I think they just want to get this era of DC movies over with.

At this point it doesn't matter, one of the things already working against this film is I think most people are now completely aware this iteration of the DCEU is over & pretty much the only reason this is seeing the light of day is because too much money was invested before WB/Gunn came to the conclusion to reboot the DCU.

 

[kguillou]

Hey this may well end up garbage but im in! I just love James Wan’s visual aesthetic to these films and that gives it an edge to me. I feel like at the very least this is going to be a stupid fun action movie with gorgeous visuals and kinetic action sequences like the first one.

I think this is going to make more than The Marvels too.

 

[psylockolussus]

Can't wait for this era of DC movies to end! I'd be seeing this on Dec 20. But it will play in theaters until March and there's gonna digital/streaming release later on, so thats like 5 months left.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Loved the look in that latest trailer personally. I am looking forward to this more with each bit of footage I see.

 

[Slick]

This looks about the same stupid crazy fun as the original with great visuals and I can’t wait to watch it in theaters.

 

[psylockolussus]

Opening Weekend Range: $32M-$42M
Domestic Total Range: $105M-$168M

Long Range Box Office Forecast: AQUAMAN AND THE LOST KINGDOM and MIGRATION

Two key Christmas weekend releases are the subject of this week's report as theaters hope to begin closing out the year on a high note.

www.boxofficepro.com

 

[DCDAVE]

Opening Weekend Range: $32M-$42M
Domestic Total Range: $105M-$168M

Long Range Box Office Forecast: AQUAMAN AND THE LOST KINGDOM and MIGRATION

Two key Christmas weekend releases are the subject of this week's report as theaters hope to begin closing out the year on a high note.

www.boxofficepro.com

I think it will have similar numbers as Fast X. It will probably do well in the foreign markets because of Wan and Momoa but the US market appears to be done with the DCEU. That said I will be their opening day like I was with the first Aquaman.

 

[psylockolussus]

It can't possibly perform worse than The Marvels at the boX office especially with the holiday season.

 

[Kon]

It can't possibly perform worse than The Marvels at the boX office especially with the holiday season.

Some people tracking the pre-sales for Aquaman wouldn't be so sure it can't

 

[TheVileOne]

The first Aquaman movie made over a $1 billion.

IMHO, it's criminal how Warner Bros. has treated this film and franchise. Announcing the whole DCU slate before they were even finished releasing these films is also corporate malpractice.

They sabotaged Aquaman 2 and literally every DC movie that came out this year. They sabotaged themselves.

 

[Filmfreak]

The first Aquaman movie made over a $1 billion.

IMHO, it's criminal how Warner Bros. has treated this film and franchise. Announcing the whole DCU slate before they were even finished releasing these films is also corporate malpractice.

They sabotaged Aquaman 2 and literally every DC movie that came out this year. They sabotaged themselves.

While I agree they should have waited for the DCEU to finish before announcing a full reboot, I don't think it would have made much difference in the box office. The vast majority of the general audience has no idea about the fate of the current universe or the films that are in development in the next one. That's something mostly us fans know and discuss. Most people don't follow movie news so it's not that common knowledge.

Also I can understand WB wanting to move on sooner rather than later. Realistically if they hadn't announced Gunn's reboot, we wouldn't be having Superman Legacy until 2026. And while I wouldn't have a problem because a break might be needed and it would mean more time developing the projects properly, I'm sure the studio did. They thought they had the golden eggs goose, which all signs this year in and outside DC has proven that's not the case, and wanted to make some profit as soon as possible.

 

[DarkKnight]

The first Aquaman movie made over a $1 billion.

IMHO, it's criminal how Warner Bros. has treated this film and franchise. Announcing the whole DCU slate before they were even finished releasing these films is also corporate malpractice.

They sabotaged Aquaman 2 and literally every DC movie that came out this year. They sabotaged themselves.

My thoughts as well. I feel like this may very well be dead-on arrival. I hope not, but its just the feeling I get.

I too feel announcing the DC reboot and list of new films before they even released the last few of these previous universe films was a very bad mistake on their part. But, it is what it is I suppose. I really enjoyed the first Aquaman movie and I'm sure I'll watch this one at some point. But I feel like I'm still recovering from the feeling of being beaten up emotionally over the last couple of years due to the roller coaster ride of WB/DC news.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

This is coming out next week and there's no sign of reviews or even reactions. Someone on Twitter claimed the embargo would lift on the 21st, the day before release.

I wasn't planning on seeing this in theaters, I have almost no interest in an Aquaman sequel, but there's nothing else premiering and it is a new James Wan film at the end of the day.

WB must be expecting terrible critical reception.

 

[Arachnerd]

Whatever reception this movie gets, I'll always be grateful for this clip that has been bestowed upon us.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

It is important to note that pre-sales started a little earlier than normal, so we'll have to see if it picks up.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Both social media embargo and review embargo lift on the 21st which essentially makes social media reactions pointless.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

China ain't saving this one.

 

[TheGDBatman]

Well that’s not exactly a ringing endorsement….

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

WB just have no faith in this at all so they?

 

[Filmfreak]

WB just have no faith in this at all so they?

There were multiple reports of bad test screenings, reshoots to "fix" the film and problems between Wan and the studio. I don't know how much truth there is to those (Wan denied it) but extremely slow marketing and last minute embargoes certainly align with that. I think they won't to bury this and get it over with in order to move on with their reboot. The only reason they kept Aquaman for this year instead of delaying it when the strike was happening was to rip off the band aid and be done with the DCEU once and for all.

The fact that even Momoa himself is saying it's highly unlikely he'll play that role again shows they're not even keeping pretenses anymore. They know people won't show up.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

There were multiple reports of bad test screenings, reshoots to "fix" the film and problems between Wan and the studio. I don't know how much truth there is to those (Wan denied it) but extremely slow marketing and last minute embargoes certainly align with that. I think they won't to bury this and get it over with in order to move on with their reboot. The only reason they kept Aquaman for this year instead of delaying it when the strike was happening was to rip off the band aid and be done with the DCEU once and for all.

The fact that even Momoa himself is saying it's highly unlikely he'll play that role again shows they're not even keeping pretenses anymore. They know people won't show up.

WHich I totally get but they’re a business at the end of the day and they don’t seem to care this will make no money.