Arrow Arrow S3- E8 "The Brave and the Bold"

[antsman41]

Also, shirtless one-on-one Ra's fight!

 

[Human Torch]

Just because this week's episode of Arrow was, admittedly, superior to this week's The Flash episode, it doesn't mean the overall quality of the former is greater than the latter.

It's the first time this season that I thought Arrow had a better episode than Flash in the same week......and Flash was in that episode.

 

[raisethe3]

Really good episode tonight. Liked how the story was going.

Also seems like Team Flash are going to solve the mystery murder of Sara?

 

[Quasimod0]

Best episode of the Arrow season so far. And I liked this episode better than the Flash one last night.

 

[Quasimod0]

Arrow once again proving to be the superior show.

Flash has been better than Arrow this season so far, imo. However, the Arrow crossover episode was a bit better than the Flash one.

 

[vantheman77]

When I see Flash and Arrow fight last night as well as seeing their heart-to-heart tonight, I wonder if we're going to get something similar to this in the upcoming Batman v Superman movie in 2016.

I have to agree that Captain Boomerang made the bigger impression than that Rainbow Raider villain last night. Boomerang is a Flash villain as I can see future uses of him in the Flash than Arrow.

 

[roach]

Really liked this episode. I think this episode treated the team members better than the Flash episode. Everyone had things to do while in the Flash episode Diggle just reacted to The Flash.
I do like how they use Arrow as Batman and Flash as Superman.

 

[Frodo]

Good episode. Much better than last nights cross over. This one seemed truer to the spirit of all the characters involved while last nights was contrived in a few places. Laurel was in one scene, Iris wasn't there, Thea and the DJ were basically only dealt with in passing, both characters had something to learn instead of just Barry, and the villain was actually a presence instead of a plot device to get them to fight. It was just better than last nights Flash which was lacking in several places imo, and showed Oliver with far more wisdom than the character has. This episode showed him as the flawed individual he is while at the same time showing Barry as naive in some ways. It was a true crossover imo because both supporting casts had something to do and worked together.

Overall the episode was an improvement over last nights team up and Cupid from last weeks Arrow. I give it a 9/10.

 

[zenith16]

I have to agree that Captain Boomerang made the bigger impression than that Rainbow Raider villain last night. Boomerang is a Flash villain as I can see future uses of him in the Flash than Arrow.

yes well flash hasn't tick of captain boomerang to a make him a recurring nemesis yet . and if he does I hope Barry has enough sense ot to take off his mask in front of him. I really think cause he thinks he has power it's gone to his head at times. there are other way to be hurt like people you care about.

just like there other way to get information out of some that the spy world show but Waller didn't teach to ollie

torchering is one thing but it doesn't always work. there's also trickery finding what what that care about to use to make them talk or making sure they won't have much of a life if they don't talk

 

[Still Wynning]

It's the first time this season that I thought Arrow had a better episode than Flash in the same week......and Flash was in that episode.

That's what I meant.

This week's The Flash contained elements from Arrow that I'm not too fond of, while Arrow contained elements of The Flash that make me love that show. They were like bizarro versions of each other's shows this week.

I wonder if the writers switched places or something.

 

[p4poetic]

I really liked this one, like the season is finally really feeling good (haven't been loving it). Hopefully the Ra's encounter next week keeps building on this.



I dunno, I think it would be fair to say that he did learn a "kill or be killed" mentality on the island. Like Waller and the bomber (probably the bomber *looks suspiciously at Waller*) said, Ollie was already a killer, but torture is a whole other thing. He's learning something darker, something you don't just do unless you're psychotic.

NB. As much as I like the concept of the flashbacks, I'm not in love with the execution.

He did. Waller just emphasized what was already there.

I really liked Amanda in this episode. Its so much better when she has something to say or do other than 'bomb this'.

 

[kedrell]

7.5/10

A little better than the Flash episode. Still was hoping for a bit more but this is perfectly reasonable and decent. The flashback stuff is getting tedious.

 

[zenith16]

He did. Waller just emphasized what was already there.

I really liked Amanda in this episode. Its so much better when she has something to say or do other than 'bomb this'.

what happen's when he comes across some one as crazy as the joker that want's him to torcher him or her just to send Ollie into a false sense of he's making head way.

There were people like that in the Spy series of Nikita with the male actress peta Wilson as the star.

Some how I just think she wasn't the best teacher. hell this came back and already bit him with what happened with diggles ex soon to be wife again . it was also why Michel Weston of burn notice had alternatives . ad why jack bower used trickery in season of 24 when the usual wasn't working . but every just remembers that jack mostly torched most people though they may have over did that.

 

[rashad]

Damn, that was awesome.

Flash was more fun, better action...

I disagree the action was just as good in this episode imo. Boomerang was awesome.

 

[Lencho01]

Well, the episode was pretty fun and amusing when looking at both together.

After reading the producers comments in interviews and whatnot, I didn't expect them to make things so on-the-nose about why each team is different. The whole risk of death thing made no sense to me. Why even bring it up?

 

[Comics]

Flash has been better than Arrow this season so far, imo. However, the Arrow crossover episode was a bit better than the Flash one.

This

 

[zenith16]

Well, the episode was pretty fun and amusing when looking at both together.

After reading the producers comments in interviews and whatnot, I didn't expect them to make things so on-the-nose about why each team is different. The whole risk of death thing made no sense to me. Why even bring it up?

it's cause team flash hasn't faced death or personal loss yet while helping people or fighting off the villains and that silly mistake barry made with taking off his mask to that old bully of his. he's lucky that dudes dead now ad was more psycho more ambitious too. Usually that's a costly mistake the point is team flash has a degree see this as too fun at times ad Berry let's his power go to his head at times as well.


Oh team arrow a has some stuff to learn as well.

 

[Herolee10]

I think the reason why this part of the crossover was more enjoyable is because:

1. The episode wasn't building to an eventual confrontation between Arrow and Flash, thus the villain used for this portion was allowed to be more menacing.

2. Unlike the Flash portion of the crossover, this episode didn't really waste that much time on CW-like Drama elements that's been ongoing since the start of the season (aka didn't focus on Olicity, Laurel's anger, etc... like how "Flash" gave some time to the Iris stuff)

3. Like others said, the two groups were all allowed to do something and contribute towards saving the day.


it's kind of hard, at this point at least, to think that Captain Boomerang might turn his attention towards Flash though. Would have been nice to end their confrontation with Boomerang being more fed up with Flash than with Arrow to build up from there.

 

[zenith16]

I think the reason why this part of the crossover was more enjoyable is because:

1. The episode wasn't building to an eventual confrontation between Arrow and Flash, thus the villain used for this portion was allowed to be more menacing.

2. Unlike the Flash portion of the crossover, this episode didn't really waste that much time on CW-like Drama elements that's been ongoing since the start of the season (aka didn't focus on Olicity, Laurel's anger, etc... like how "Flash" gave some time to the Iris stuff)

3. Like others said, the two groups were all allowed to do something and contribute towards saving the day.


it's kind of hard, at this point at least, to think that Captain Boomerang might turn his attention towards Flash though. Would have been nice to end their confrontation with Boomerang being more fed up with Flash than with Arrow to build up from there.

agreed Especially o the latter

 

[Lencho01]

it's cause team flash has't faced death or personal loss yet while helping people fighting off the villains ad that silly mistake barry made with taking off his mask to that old bully of his he's lucky that dudes dead now usual that's a costly mistake the point is team flash has a degree see this as too fun at times ad barry let's his power go to his head at times as well. oh team arrow a has some stuff to learn as well.

Plenty of people have died on their show already. They even had Barry call Ollie out on his ****. Hell, Barry is CSI. He's probably seen plenty of death before he even got his powers.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

I do hope we see what upgrade Cisco made to the costume because it not much but he did say it is much lighter

 

[zenith16]

Plenty of people have died on their show already. They even had Barry call Ollie out on his ****. Hell, Barry is CSI. He's probably seen plenty of death before he even got his powers.

I mean personal for team flash loss they have been treating mostly like a joke cause yeah there's power and it's cool but that over shoadows stuff to team flash & they didn't know platique long enough Barry at times is too cocky like that time with that version of star bucks when he was mugged as his barry persona and he was wow your actually robbing me ?

As for arrow they sat on that too lo as stated here ad some of the Dna degraded but other the that I'm happy they finally went to them.

team arrow needs to learn detective work and other stuff from the Spy world Waller won't teach you cause she's psycho there are other ways to get info out of people beside pain, it's one way. but there are people that actually enjoy that &will mess with you cause they are that sick in the head will manipulate you with that .

 

[Herolee10]

The only thing that I was somewhat bugged by was, again, the usage of poor CGI when it came to "one" shot in the episode.

I'm talking about CGI Barry twirling around in front of Oliver and catching Boomerang's....Boomerang before it landed on him.

I mean the CGI model was so obvious, I thought I was looking at the CGI model used from the Injustice games.lol

For the life of me, I can't believe that they couldn't just shoot Grant doing that in front of a green screen and insert it into the shot with some polished CGI. It wouldn't even be that expensive.

it's cause team flash hasn't faced death or personal loss yet while helping people or fighting off the villains and that silly mistake barry made with taking off his mask to that old bully of his. he's lucky that dudes dead now ad was more psycho more ambitious too. Usually that's a costly mistake the point is team flash has a degree see this as too fun at times ad Berry let's his power go to his head at times as well.


Oh team arrow a has some stuff to learn as well.

I think the "darkest" thing that Team Flash have come across so far was their little incident with that Electric Meta-Human that invaded their laboratory, though I'm assuming that their upcoming encounter with Reverse Flash will soon take that position.

I do hope we see what upgrade Cisco made to the costume because it not much but he did say it is much lighter

It's going to become a recurring theme on "Arrow" that Oliver keeps getting costume upgrades every time Barry comes to help out in Starling city.lol

The only changes that I noticed was that Oliver now carries some mini "grenades" on the strap that he uses for his quiver (attached to his chest) and that he has a patch on his left arm that contains a few mini-darts/arrows attached to them.

 

[zenith16]

correct herolee10 I'm also kinda of happy they had a bit of a wake call with visiting team arrow.

 

[Herolee10]

You know, it's going to be fun watching the two episodes from Season 2 that Barry was in ("The Scientist" and "Three Ghosts") and the two Crossover episodes since it all really lines up well against each other.

When Barry first came to Starling City, let alone being brought into the "Arrow Cave", he really didn't have any say in how they went about their tasks and was just there for support.

But now, you can feel that Barry's words has weight on how Oliver goes about doing things now.