The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[X Knight]

You know what...? I just didn't like this film, overall. It really, really saddens me to admit that. I love Spider-Man. So where do we begin?

-Aunt May was handled about as poorly as she could've been
-No resolution to Ben's killer
-No satisfying resolution to the disappearance of Pete's parents
-Garfield's Pete borders on completely unlikable sometimes
-This film severely lacked heart and character development
-certain story elements were merely glanced over (how AM I going to make web-shooters? in two seconds? ok!)

there's just too much here that didn't work for me. I know Sam Raimi's trilogy got cheesy (and downright awful at some points) but it got us invested in the characters. It had heart. Each story had a satisfying beginning middle and end (with the exception of 3's ending). This movie doesn't seem to know which story it's trying to tell.

Peter also fails to really embody "Spider-Man" to me. As soon as he's Spidey, he's on a man-hunt for Ben's killer. His own personal agenda. As soon as the Lizard shows up, it's up to him to stop him, because he created him. ...His own damned agenda. Pete doesn't do any "good" for the community that isn't related to his own agendas. Spider-man was always good for the sake of good, good because he had the power to DO good and Uncle Ben put that mentality into him. Not in this flick. Even when he saves that kid he seems like "Well ****, the Lizard's RIGHT THERE, but I gueeeeess I'll go save that kid"

I know I'm in the extreme minority once again, but yeah.... it was pretty generic on the whole, and if I wanted to get really nit-picky I could even say it was more of a cluster-**** than Spider-Man 3 was.

I share your feelings about TASM. so, you are not alone.

 

[chaseter]

I thought the fact that the serum was twisting Connors's mind was obvious?

He was the lizard when he went to try and stop Ratha....aka on the serum.

 

[Web face]

He was the lizard when he went to try and stop Ratha....aka on the serum.

That was probably because he was stupid and mindless and all he knew at the time was that he was angry. Not explained very well though.

 

[chaseter]

It was just poorly developed...Lizard's motivations. Literally overnight, Connors changes his entire tune and they explain it with one cheesy scene between him and Peter where nothing is explained.

"how do you catch a lizard?"
"lizards can't be caught."
"where would a giant lizard go?"
"not into the sewers. Why are you interested in giant lizards Peter?"
"....schooooool????"

 

[sontin]

And even "the human" Connors transforms to the lizard. After the second injection he was always the lizard...

And something i find strange: In the comics Spider-Man not even saved him as a person but he saved his whole life. And that result in a strong relationship between Spider-Man and Connors.
In this movie Peter Parker destroyed his life. Gave him a formular he has no clue about, promised it will work and in the end he let him down.

What a noble guy Peter is...

 

[Jexx]

..He never promised it would work.

 

[Nathan]

And human testings weren't planned that soon either. Had they waited like planned, and then saw what happened to Freddy the mouse, the Lizard never would have happened.

 

[El Payaso]

..He never promised it would work.

And he certainly couldn't have foreseen it. The very notion that Peter purposedly framed Connors so he would become the Lizard is beyond absurd and blind.

 

[Jexx]

Honestly, I have a theory about the decay rate algorithm: it only works with Richard's spiders, and either Peter was injected with a serum in case Peter ever got bit (I assume that Richard may of did some work at home), or it was already in the genetics of the spiders.

So that would be why Richard was keeping the algorithm secret from his colleagues at Oscorp, they would of been too eager to use it, without considering the consequences. But the head(s) of Oscorp knew he was hiding it, and went after it to cure Norman's sickness.

 

[Just one more]

I share your feelings about TASM. so, you are not alone.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head with this Dark Jester. Not alone indeed

And he certainly couldn't have foreseen it. The very notion that Peter purposedly framed Connors so he would become the Lizard is beyond absurd and blind.

Indeed it is, which is why no one has suggested it

 

[sauronthegreat]

Only thing I din't like was that the sewer lab scene between Lizard Spidey and Ratha was cut from the film. And maybe the fact that Lizaed aka Connors knows SM's identity.

 

[Oscorp]

* I would like Lizard to be a little more beastly during the action.

* This is not something I cared too much about but just something that recently made me raise an eyebrow. [BLACKOUT] OK so the antidote made both Peter and Connors lose their powers for a moment it seemed. We also see that both of them got their powers back later. So, what happened to those civilians who got infected?[/BLACKOUT]

* Lizard should have kept the lab coat for most of the movie.

 

[Jexx]

Spoiler

So that's what that was! When Peter needed Connors's help to get back on the building, it was because he actually lost his powers? Interesting...

 

[sontin]

Na, it's a plot hole to show that

Spoiler

Connors got his humanity back.

 

[Oscorp]

Spoiler

So that's what that was! When Peter needed Connors's help to get back on the building, it was because he actually lost his powers? Interesting...

I just realised something so what I said before might be false

Spoiler

Peter probably didn't need help because he lost his sticking powers but because his web shooters were broken so he wouldn't be able to save himself in the fall. However, if the antidote made Connors lose his powers for a while but got the scales back in the mid-credits scene, I wonder what happened to the infected citizens.

Or maybe I've misinterpreted the whole thing. If anyone wants to explain for me, I'd be thankful.

 

[Doc Ock]

I definitely wished Lizard had the lab coat on for most of the film, it was great and IMO made him look alot better when wearing it.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I must be the only one, but I actually preferred this version of the lizard without the lab coat

 

[The Guard]

It makes sense that he wouldn't wear clothes all the time. He was devolving/evolving. I'm glad the coat was there as a nod, but I wouldn't have wanted to see him wearing it the whole time. That would have been a tad silly.

 

[Jick]

I just realised something so what I said before might be false

Spoiler

Peter probably didn't need help because he lost his sticking powers but because his web shooters were broken so he wouldn't be able to save himself in the fall. However, if the antidote made Connors lose his powers for a while but got the scales back in the mid-credits scene, I wonder what happened to the infected citizens.

Or maybe I've misinterpreted the whole thing. If anyone wants to explain for me, I'd be thankful.

Well, maybe not. Connors injected too much of that stuff on himself and he became a complete cross-species. The infected citizens probably didn't have too much time to permanently change, so their reversal would be easier. That's how I imagine that.

 

[Troy_Parker]

* This is not something I cared too much about but just something that recently made me raise an eyebrow. [BLACKOUT] OK so the antidote made both Peter and Connors lose their powers for a moment it seemed. We also see that both of them got their powers back later. So, what happened to those civilians who got infected?[/BLACKOUT]

Huh? Peter losing his powers was never implied. The antidote was a reptile DNA antidote. And wut? Didn't you see the SWAT lizards becoming cured? You were supposed to deduce that the same happened to anybody else who was infected.

 

[Maximum Spider!]

Only thing I didn't like is how they edited out many scenes. Maybe somebody already noticed, but there was a scene with an infected man throwing a car at a police officer and they cut that out.
I thought that scene was pretty neat and would have added some tension and the sense of danger a biological attack in NY is supposed to have.

 

[Peter_Parker123]

Maybe somebody already noticed, but there was a scene with an infected man throwing a car at a police officer and they cut that out.
I thought that scene was pretty neat and would have added some tension and the sense of danger a biological attack in NY is supposed to have.

I thought it was Dr Connors He had the same clothes .

 

[Maximum Spider!]

I thought it was Dr Connors He had the same clothes .

You sure? I'll have to rewatch that B-roll footage.

 

[The Guard]

I just figured Peter's webshooters were broken, and Connors had enough humanity to help him. He may well have been able to save himself, but Connors didn't even want to take the chance.

 

[Oscorp]

Now that I think of it, I found one small thing that actually was pretty bad to me.

The CGI:d spiders. I don't mean the white ones but when there are close ups, for example the one in Peter's room. It looked extremely outdated and even amateurish and took me out of the film for a moment of a few seconds.

Very small complaint however.