The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[roach]

Gwen didn't seem that broken up about her father dying.

 

[cryptic name]

I don't like that I have to wait two years to see what happens next.

 

[Smashlilman]

I didn't like the High School portion of the movie. It feel to (i don't know...) MTVish. I couldn't stand the music that they used. It felt too cliche. Didn't like how Spider-man always had his head down trying to look like a depressed sad sack. I wanted to laugh my ass off when Spider-man would start trash talking but it never came off as truly funny (my one fear when it come to a Deathpool movie). There was no comedic timing to his quips. I hated the Lizards head & face! They problably went with that head and face becasue they though it would emote better. I like the movie overall but this movies has a lot of flaws from my point of view.

 

[The Guard]

There are a couple major deaths in the film and it seems like a quick notice of it then the next day its business as usual, laughing and fooling around.

What? Where?

The scene in Raimi's first Spider-Man, the long shot of Aunt May almost collapsing when she sees Peter after the murder of Uncle Ben. Just perfect, not a line of dialog needed.

And there's stuff with Aunt May reacting to Ben's death. But she's not 80 years old, so she doesn't just fall over.

I've never seen a high school so empty.

What do you mean?

Did they ever explain why the Parker's took off? Were they going to leave and Oscorp turned over his home office?

It's implied that someone was after Richard's work.

And, in re to Oscorp's security, what about the front desk? In this day and age where we have to go through pat downs and screenings at the airport, you're telling me that a cutting edge, multi-whatever science/industrial corp won't conduct any kind of identity check on its interns?? No id check, now application form or proof. Nope, just walk up to the front desk, lie to them that you're an intern, and take someone else's name badge........

She obviously knew he wasn't an intern. She just didn't care.

 

[Themanofbat]

Is it just me... or did Peter create a web-shooter... using web cartridges manufactored at OsCorp?

WTF????

 

[roach]

Is it just me... or did Peter create a web-shooter... using web cartridges manufactored at OsCorp?

WTF????

using webbing that Oscorp culled from the special spiders...organic webbingt:t:t:

 

[The Guard]

You know what I hated?

The crowds weren't full of hot supermodel chicks like in Raimi's Spider-Man films.

 

[Shazam]

Is it just me... or did Peter create a web-shooter... using web cartridges manufactored at OsCorp?

WTF????

Makes sense to me, considering that he has no money. He probably lfted them on one of his visits to Oscorp. And with his smarts he rigged it into a shooter.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Makes sense to me, considering that he has no money. He probably lfted them on one of his visits to Oscorp. And with his smarts he rigged it into a shooter.

He didn't lift one. When he's making the webshooters, you can see the shipping box of "24 units" that he apparently ordered?

 

[cobrastatus]

He probably got them for the cheap off amazon

 

[Eddie Brock]

He probably got them for the cheap off amazon

Nah, not Amazon. If he's never heard of Google, he definitely doesn't use Amazon.

 

[cobrastatus]

Nah, not Amazon. If he's never heard of Google, he definitely doesn't use Amazon.

Ha, I kid. He probably used some of Uncle B's life insurance payout

 

[Hit-Girl]

Makes sense to me, considering that he has no money. He probably lfted them on one of his visits to Oscorp. And with his smarts he rigged it into a shooter.

I thought he ordered them off the internet...

 

[Eddie Brock]

I thought he ordered them off the internet...

That's what the movie would have you believe, but I have my doubts. I mean, he uses Bing! He's smart enough to make his own webshooters, but he uses Bing! Probably runs on IE7 or something, too.

 

[Zimmy]

You know what I hated?

The crowds weren't full of hot supermodel chicks like in Raimi's Spider-Man films.

Or his ugly kids.

 

[cryptic name]

Is it just me... or did Peter create a web-shooter... using web cartridges manufactored at OsCorp?

WTF????

OsCorp uses genetically altered spiders (bred by Richard Parker) to create webbing which they use in the manufacture of a high tensile strength industrial product called "bio cable". Peter orders some, messes around with it and innovates the webshooters. I thought it was pretty cool actually.

 

[roach]

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-amazing-spiderman-missing-film-credits/

 

[SentinelMind]

They dropped it because he suddenly had a much bigger issue to deal with. He had just been lectured by Cpt. Stacey about how Spider-Man wasn't actually trying to help anyone but, was rather just some guy with a vendetta. Then he had the bridge scene and realized he could do better by helping people instead of pursuing his vendetta. That's where he becomes Spider-Man and takes Ben's words about responsibility to heart and realizes it's not about revenge. Just like Ben told him after picking him up from school.

Ben's death in Raimi's movie never carried any weight to me. Mainly because I don't think Tobey is as good at conveying his emotions as Andrew was.

Agreed, except Raimi's moving carrying no weight part...it carried little weight, but ASM was better in portraying Peter's transformation into Spider-Man.

 

[ChildfreeAggie]

What I didn't like? There's a laundry list of problems in my view:

1. Spider-Man's quips just weren't funny, and all of it felt very, VERY forced. I'm sorry but when you're fighting for your life and possibly facing being beaten to death I doubt your mind is would be registering what your next one-liner is going to be.

In the comics Spidey would normally be joking around those he had a clear advantage over or if the fight/opponent wasn't posing an immediate threat to his life. Even the car thief scene just wasn't funny and the only real one-liner I recall from the school fight was, "Bad, bad, Lizard?"

I tell that to my dog virtually every day, heck, if that's all the creative humor a screenwriter needs I might get hired for the sequel.

2. The editing/pacing was just atrocious. I can barely remember what movie might have been more poorly edited than this one, but I can't; scenes were just chopped to pieces and the transitions were my no means smooth. Scenes that should have been given their time were incredibly rushed and those scenes that I cared less about seemed to drag on forever.

3. The subway fight; that earned a big WTH?! The choreography of it was horrid. Honestly, the acquiring of his powers were completely out of order; I mean, I would have preferred it if he had just gone home feeling incredibly ill, woken up the next morning and things just started happening like his strength manifesting the way it did.

If I recall correctly his spider-sense was one of the last things to manifest itself in the comics, not the first.

4. Really, he let a group of common thugs chase him? If that scene had been anywhere close to accurate he would have just stood his ground and and disposed of all of them in seconds without breaking a sweat.

Ordinary humans should not have seemingly posed a threat to him at all; also when he shows up at night with bruises and a bloody eye, what was that caused by, a normal right cross from some perp?

Please, his durability, or lack thereof was a big disappointment for me.

5. Uncle Ben's death...honestly Andrew's acting was, wow, real awkward to watch. I mean, what was that noise he kept making in between each "Oh, god" a shriek or a yelp?

There was just no emotional weight to that scene whatsoever, helped in part to some very questionable acting in my opinion.

6. His temporary mask, yeah, there was a lot of nervous laughter from the audience when he first showed up wearing that thing; yeah, he would have been better off with a cheap, run of the mill ski mask then that thing.

7. The lizard's face/head; yeah, it didn't carry any intimidation and, holy crap, to watch him talk while he was in the form was just so strange looking.

Hell the 90's cartoon portrayed a better Lizard/Spidey confrontation in 20 minutes than this entire movie did.

In my opinion, when it comes to the origin story; Raimi's original is head and shoulders above this. I'd put the ASM on par with Spider-Man 3 but in no way does it belong in the same dimension as the original two.

 

[TomPiltoff]

They dropped it because he suddenly had a much bigger issue to deal with. He had just been lectured by Cpt. Stacey about how Spider-Man wasn't actually trying to help anyone but, was rather just some guy with a vendetta. Then he had the bridge scene and realized he could do better by helping people instead of pursuing his vendetta. That's where he becomes Spider-Man and takes Ben's words about responsibility to heart and realizes it's not about revenge. Just like Ben told him after picking him up from school.

Yeah but isn't that an argument for Ben's death being sort of meaningless? Ben doesn't need to die in order for Peter to realize that his powers give him the responsibility to help others.

 

[Hotwire]

Yeah but isn't that an argument for Ben's death being sort of meaningless? Ben doesn't need to die in order for Peter to realize that his powers give him the responsibility to help others.

Not at all. If Ben hadn't died, he would not have started down the path that led to him becoming Spider-Man.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Only issue I had was the pacing really, that and I wish there was about 20-30 minutes added to the film for more character development.

 

[Spider Edge]

wait......what??

you mean Peter didn't even, at the very least, reverse engineer the web fluids + cartridges?? he just ordered them off the internet??!!

and how did he order on the internet?? credit card?? wouldn't that be traceable?? ( just like how he constantly carries around his smartphone, which probably has some kind of tracking/GPS on it )

and I found it highly ironic that, in TASM, the spiders are specifically genetically engineered to CREATE SUPER STRONG WEBBING!! So, when said spider bites Peter, he transfers all the spider-related powers, except.......wait for it.......wait for it.........SUPER STRONG WEBBING!! y'know......the thing it was specifically created to produce!!

I loved the mech shooters, but, this would have been an obvious excuse for the organic shooters.

Plus, if Peter doesn't even come up with the web fluid + cartridges himself, and instead just orders them from the ******* internet ( or even if he just copies/steals/reverse engineers them from Oscorp ), doesn't that kind of undercut the strongest point proponents of the mech shooters espoused?? that Peter creating the web fluid showed his genius........

 

[Eddie Brock]

wait......what??

you mean Peter didn't even, at the very least, reverse engineer the web fluids + cartridges?? he just ordered them off the internet??!!

and how did he order on the internet?? credit card?? wouldn't that be traceable?? ( just like how he constantly carries around his smartphone, which probably has some kind of tracking/GPS on it )

and I found it highly ironic that, in TASM, the spiders are specifically genetically engineered to CREATE SUPER STRONG WEBBING!! So, when said spider bites Peter, he transfers all the spider-related powers, except.......wait for it.......wait for it.........SUPER STRONG WEBBING!! y'know......the thing it was specifically created to produce!!

I loved the mech shooters, but, this would have been an obvious excuse for the organic shooters.

Plus, if Peter doesn't even come up with the web fluid + cartridges himself, and instead just orders them from the ******* internet ( or even if he just copies/steals/reverse engineers them from Oscorp ), doesn't that kind of undercut the strongest point proponents of the mech shooters espoused?? that Peter creating the web fluid showed his genius........

Except that organic shooters make no goddamn sense, anatomically speaking. Also, he created a webshooter out of old watches and a microchip. I'd say that showed his genius.

 

[Spider Edge]

What I didn't like? There's a laundry list of problems in my view:

1. Spider-Man's quips just weren't funny, and all of it felt very, VERY forced. I'm sorry but when you're fighting for your life and possibly facing being beaten to death I doubt your mind is would be registering what your next one-liner is going to be.

In the comics Spidey would normally be joking around those he had a clear advantage over or if the fight/opponent wasn't posing an immediate threat to his life. Even the car thief scene just wasn't funny and the only real one-liner I recall from the school fight was, "Bad, bad, Lizard?"

I tell that to my dog virtually every day, heck, if that's all the creative humor a screenwriter needs I might get hired for the sequel.

2. The editing/pacing was just atrocious. I can barely remember what movie might have been more poorly edited than this one, but I can't; scenes were just chopped to pieces and the transitions were my no means smooth. Scenes that should have been given their time were incredibly rushed and those scenes that I cared less about seemed to drag on forever.

3. The subway fight; that earned a big WTH?! The choreography of it was horrid. Honestly, the acquiring of his powers were completely out of order; I mean, I would have preferred it if he had just gone home feeling incredibly ill, woken up the next morning and things just started happening like his strength manifesting the way it did.

If I recall correctly his spider-sense was one of the last things to manifest itself in the comics, not the first.

4. Really, he let a group of common thugs chase him? If that scene had been anywhere close to accurate he would have just stood his ground and and disposed of all of them in seconds without breaking a sweat.

Ordinary humans should not have seemingly posed a threat to him at all; also when he shows up at night with bruises and a bloody eye, what was that caused by, a normal right cross from some perp?

Please, his durability, or lack thereof was a big disappointment for me.

5. Uncle Ben's death...honestly Andrew's acting was, wow, real awkward to watch. I mean, what was that noise he kept making in between each "Oh, god" a shriek or a yelp?

There was just no emotional weight to that scene whatsoever, helped in part to some very questionable acting in my opinion.

6. His temporary mask, yeah, there was a lot of nervous laughter from the audience when he first showed up wearing that thing; yeah, he would have been better off with a cheap, run of the mill ski mask then that thing.

7. The lizard's face/head; yeah, it didn't carry any intimidation and, holy crap, to watch him talk while he was in the form was just so strange looking.

Hell the 90's cartoon portrayed a better Lizard/Spidey confrontation in 20 minutes than this entire movie did.

In my opinion, when it comes to the origin story; Raimi's original is head and shoulders above this. I'd put the ASM on par with Spider-Man 3 but in no way does it belong in the same dimension as the original two.

I agree with pretty much everything you said.