The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[combocaz]

Im just over the whole origin thing.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I don't really mind it so much here. The movie had such a different tone from the campy Raimi films, that they could get away with it. And they incorporated some new ideas (Peter's parents, Oscorp's genetic experiments).

If they expanded upon them in the sequel, it could really pay off.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I didn't like that how little we got Dr Connors in this movie. It could've even been the central focus of the movie as far as I'm concerned

the theme was "Everybody has a missing piece. It's how you fill that missing piece that how you define yourself", and that sounds brilliant! If this movie would've been that, it would've been mindblowing, but they wasted their chance with the lizard, which really makes me kinda sad

 

[Radioactive]

^

 

[def28]

Yeah def could have used more Doc Connors, adding his family would have made for a better story with him.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I also wish that the lizard wouldn't have had that master plan and they would've focused on the personal side of that story. It felt like the Oscorp tower ganali device thing was just because they wanted this movie's scope to feel bigger, but it really even wasn't. I know that Sony is unable to do that, but this movie should've been the "smaller scale movie with a really good plot"

 

[S. Grundy]

The main thing for me was Parker, I mean Garfield is a good actor. But they didn't seem to get what makes Peter Parker.

 

[melvintwj]

Many were complaining that Spidey didn't sense that the Lizard was above him during the sewer scene. It appears that he in fact did sense it, cos you can clearly hear the sound effect used for Spider Sense at that moment and then Spidey started to slowly turn and look behind him.

 

[Nathan]

If the spiders were genetically engineered to produce a special type of webbing, why did the spider bite give Peter his powers? It's not like they were radioactive.

Already answered your question. Genetically engineered Spiders. Getting powers is simply a byproduct. No different from the Spiders in Raimi's Movie, who were genetically engineered Spiders as well.

Next, with so many spiders, someone else could eventually get bitten and also become a Spider-Man persona.

I view it the same as Hulk and the Gamma Rays. Everyone else might have died from radiation poisoning, but only Bruce turned into the Hulk.

It should have been only one spider that had been accidentally involved in an experiment (something to do with radiation or whatever) then that specific spider bites Peter and he squashes it, thereby not allowing any other person to be bitten by it.

But everyone else that gets bitten might not get the powers. Maybe the will, but turn more into a Spider creature than Peter, or they simply die. Also it's no different from all the multiple Super Spiders in Raimis Movies. Sure, he didn't have as many as this Movie, but there was still more than one Spider.

 

[def28]

I also wish that the lizard wouldn't have had that master plan and they would've focused on the personal side of that story. It felt like the Oscorp tower ganali device thing was just because they wanted this movie's scope to feel bigger, but it really even wasn't. I know that Sony is unable to do that, but this movie should've been the "smaller scale movie with a really good plot"

Yeah gotta agree with that, the execution was just wrong on their part. They had the more epic scene earlier on in the high school. Focusing on a smaller more personal agenda with Connors probably would have played alot stronger and still would have gave the audience and SpiderMan a strong sense of Danger.

I actually thought they were gonna show more of the effect of what the Lizard was doing to people. His whole plan seemed rushed and shown too quick without going back. Right when people started turning I thought we were gonna get a scene with Spidey having to fight a slew of Lizards in a battle that would rival the High School scene. But nothing happened. I get setiing that stuff up for a showdown/action scene but they didnt take advantage of it all imo.

 

[Nathan]

As much as would have liked to see that, it's probably good that they didn't show him fighting the SWAT team. He was already pretty exhausted and could barely swing. And Connors alone was a tough person to fight. A group of Lizards would have probably slaughtered him.

 

[def28]

As much as would have liked to see that, it's probably good that they didn't show him fighting the SWAT team. He was already pretty exhausted and could barely swing. And Connors alone was a tough person to fight. A group of Lizards would have probably slaughtered him.

Yeah I can see your point. Although I would have bought it. Mainly cause I really wanted to see another action scene like the High School fight. It aslo seemed to me like that scene was set up to play a bigger part. Think I saw it in some concept art for the film as well, I could be wrong though. Wasnt to impressed by the last battle.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Yeah gotta agree with that, the execution was just wrong on their part. They had the more epic scene earlier on in the high school. Focusing on a smaller more personal agenda with Connors probably would have played alot stronger and still would have gave the audience and SpiderMan a strong sense of Danger.

I actually thought they were gonna show more of the effect of what the Lizard was doing to people. His whole plan seemed rushed and shown too quick without going back. Right when people started turning I thought we were gonna get a scene with Spidey having to fight a slew of Lizards in a battle that would rival the High School scene. But nothing happened. I get setiing that stuff up for a showdown/action scene but they didnt take advantage of it all imo.

Agreed. Also, at first I was kinda confused at why the lizard was turning the swat team into lizards when he was gonna do the ganali device later anyway, but then I realized: it's just a plot device. There has to be people that have to be cured before Spidey can use the ganali device to cure people. A sad truth, but there's really no other explanation. But then again, how does Spidey even know that there are people that have to be cured? He never sees the SWAT lizards anyway

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Yeah I can see your point. Although I would have bought it. Mainly cause I really wanted to see another action scene like the High School fight. It aslo seemed to me like that scene was set up to play a bigger part. Think I saw it in some concept art for the film as well, I could be wrong though. Wasnt to impressed by the last battle.

Kinda sad that the high school was more impressive than the final showdown

 

[def28]

A But then again, how does Spidey even know that there are people that have to be cured? He never sees the SWAT lizards anyway

I guess it was the way it was filmed that made me think that. It just seemed like something that would come into play later in the film. Like an action scene set up. Thought they would start terrorizing and Spidey would have to save some people and battle it out with them.

 

[Nathan]

Kinda sad that the high school was more impressive than the final showdown

I must be one of the few who wasn't too disappointed by that. Honestly, I went in with prior knowledge that the Highschool fight was the highlight of the Movie, because I just can't stay off these boards. But I still left the theater having really enjoyed all the encounters. And even though the Highschool fight was the best, that doesn't mean that the other 2 were bad or anything. Memory is sadly fading, but I do recall that there were some sweet moves in the last fight.

Like the one the Trailers already spoiled. I deem the fight, short but sweet.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I guess it was the way it was filmed that made me think that. It just seemed like something that would come into play later in the film. Like an action scene set up. Thought they would start terrorizing and Spidey would have to save some people and battle it out with them.

Man... Sony let so much potential slide through their hands!

 

[ALP]

I didn't like that how little we got Dr Connors in this movie. It could've even been the central focus of the movie as far as I'm concerned

the theme was "Everybody has a missing piece. It's how you fill that missing piece that how you define yourself", and that sounds brilliant! If this movie would've been that, it would've been mindblowing, but they wasted their chance with the lizard, which really makes me kinda sad

Its because this is an origin story therefore 90% of the story will go to the superhero. It was the same way with Scarecrow and Ras in Batman Begins. The sequels allow for much more story for the villain.

Already answered your question. Genetically engineered Spiders. Getting powers is simply a byproduct. No different from the Spiders in Raimi's Movie, who were genetically engineered Spiders as well.

I view it the same as Hulk and the Gamma Rays. Everyone else might have died from radiation poisoning, but only Bruce turned into the Hulk.

But everyone else that gets bitten might not get the powers. Maybe the will, but turn more into a Spider creature than Peter, or they simply die. Also it's no different from all the multiple Super Spiders in Raimis Movies. Sure, he didn't have as many as this Movie, but there was still more than one Spider.

Oh, come on. I don't buy that and you sound like an apologist with that many excuses. The only way I would believe that is if the biocable was just an experiment.

The entire point of the engineered spiders was to create the bio-cable. There is an ad for the cable in the building so many seem to believe that the bio-cable is available for public consumption. If this is true, then there must be millions of spiders in many factories constantly spinning bio-cable/web. The chances are pretty huge that someone else could get bite if this is the case- but how do you expect me to believe that everyone else on the planet who gets bit will die but only Peter Parker gains their super powers? In the Raimi film, at least the spiders were of a very small number and were simply an experiment but in this film they are apparently by large quantities to mass produce bio-cable.

 

[Steve Sanders]

Many were complaining that Spidey didn't sense that the Lizard was above him during the sewer scene. It appears that he in fact did sense it, cos you can clearly hear the sound effect used for Spider Sense at that moment and then Spidey started to slowly turn and look behind him.

yeah you can hear the sound effect for the spidey sense then its just at other times when we should have heard it we didnt is what i didnt like.That was one of the rare times we got to hear it.

 

[Steve Sanders]

I didn't like the fact that he never ran out of web fluid.

actually he did.When he caught the steel girder from the crane lift he did so cause he ran out of web fluid.


My only issue was the pacing in the moments of where he's Peter Parker discovering his powers until he dons the suit. The whole webshooters development and suit making went by too fast. Could of been expanded for a minute or two more.

Yeah I noticed that to.I was scratching my head about that thinking they went too fast to explain it.

 

[roach]

actually he did.When he caught the steel girder from the crane lift he did so cause he ran out of web fluid.

i thought that was because they couldn't reach....i think if it ran out he would have tried the other one....or not forgotten that he can jump very far

 

[Steve Sanders]

Yeah I dont think he would have gone that far either.The Flash in the comics just liked bullying people and making fun of Parker.He wouldnt have gone THAT far.He later on became friends with Peter in the comics so naturally a thing like Peters Uncle dying would make even a jerk like Flash grow up and be more mature towards him.

For me the things I did not like there actually are very few.Unlike the Raimi films this film had far more positives than negatives. The only three things i did not care for was the continuation of the unmasking of him from those horrible Raimi films.I remember once upon a time the green goblin was the only one who knew his identity.Those good old days are overwith as long as sony has their grubby little hands on this franchise.

The only other gripes I have are was it was unnessary for him when getting startled to leap up and stick to the subway ceiling in front of everybody like that.Spider-man had not made his appearance yet but someone down the road would go to the police and an artist could sketch his face and they could identify him in the future when he starts working for The Daily Bugle.bad choice.Should have had him like get startled at home and leap to the ceiling at home or something like that instead. I also was upset they left out the wrestling scene.

Like I said though,at least this film unlike the Raimi films, the positives far outweighed the negatives. so I finally got a much closer thing to the kind of Spider-Man movie i expected to see and had in mind back in 2002.Thank You so much Mark Webb.you delivered.

After seeing this movie for a second time last weekend wanted to elaborate on a couple other things I noticed.God I still so much hate the constant unmasking thing from those horrible Raimi films.I hated that in sm 2 when he was unmasked for so many people to see.

In this day and age where there are cameras everywhere,even if all those people kept their mouth shut and never went to the police and give a description of him in the future when JJJ would give one of his rewards in the future for the unmasking of Parker,even if they never did that where the police could easily have an artist draw a sketch of him and the whole state would find out that peter parker from the daily bugle is spiderman,even if by some amazing miracle somehow they all kept quiet and never did that,the cameras they have in subways would have recorded his face.

 

[Oscorp]

The only thing I didn't like was the stupid American flag forced 2 seconds. It's as if Americans believe they are more heroic than other people for no good reason.

 

[Steve Sanders]

i thought that was because they couldn't reach....i think if it ran out he would have tried the other one....or not forgotten that he can jump very far

your probably right.Im going to be seeing it again this weekend,I'll have to watch closer during that scene.thats what i was thinking though at the time.

 

[Steve Sanders]

As I was saying in my previous post,I hated it so much that they continued the unmasking thing from the horrid Raimi films.That more than anything pissed me off like nothing else.grrrr.In this day and age where people have hand held recorders on their cell phones where they can record anything now,there would have been multiple people in the streets and in their apartments with their hand held cameras in their hands able to EASILY record and get a picture of his face when Capt Stacy said-Hold it.dont move.And Peter just stood there in the bright light no less from the light the helicopter was shining on him for everybody in the city to record his face and get a good picture of him.There would have been the cameras from the helicopter that would have recorded it,the cameras from street posts,so many cameras would have picked that up I cant believe they were so stupid as that to put that in there.

I still cant believe they could possibly have left out the wrestling scene as I said before,but I also noticed it that they did not explain like they did in the 2002 version that he no longer needed glasses because of the spiderbite.Those were a few of the things that the Raimi films actually got right that I wish they had included.

The creation of the webshooters felt forced,not drawn out long enough for the people not in the know how to really understand.They should have taken the time like they did in the 90's cartoon to really explain it to the audience who were not in the know how to understand how they work.I think they were too brief on that.

I liked it that we got to see Gwens mom however and this is a minor thing,but I dont understand the dumb decision to give her two brothers.At this point since Gwen is obviously going to die sometime in the future,I could care less,its pointless now at this point, but if this was a tv show where we were going to see Gwen in lots of future episodes,I would be angry as hell about this them giving her two brothers not being true to the comic showing she was an only child.

oh and it pissed me of they left out that funny line where the football coach asks him if he wants to play football and he says-"No football is too dangerous."They deleted and took out that funny line and substituted it with that stupid and corny scene of him throwing the football at the goalpost and bending it with all the players to see.cheap bad laugh,should have kept that out and left in that line since they were going for laughs.very bad decision in the editing.

Finally,it really hacked me off in the way George Stacy died.Marvel must really hate the stacys since they always kill them off,You knew it was gojng to happen, but I did not like it that it was The Lizard who killed him.I dont ever recall in the comics where The Lizard killed someone.Connors is like Dr Banner.Because Dr Banner is compassionate and humane,he is able to prevent The Hulk killing people.He may toss them around and hurt them a little but he never kills them.same with Dr Connors.