The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[AF3619]

I actully liked that line as it shows his immaturity in being just a kid. Honestly, how many Highschool kids would really take them type of words seriously, especially ones who's fathers have abandoned them etc? This kid is mind ****ed so it makes sense that he has that logic to think a dying man's request is trivial. he isn't quite the HERO yet and not a MAN yet. He fumbled along in the movie and was more of a genius than a strategist he becomes in years to come.

repeating myself
Well IMHO is a Teenager, and when Stacy makes him promise about leaving Gwen out he tries and fails but again he is a teenager he learns from F****ing things up (probably TASM2) he learns what Capt. Stacy told him that his superhero life endangeres his loved ones

 

[roach]

I actully liked that line as it shows his immaturity in being just a kid. Honestly, how many Highschool kids would really take them type of words seriously, especially ones who's fathers have abandoned them etc? This kid is mind ****ed so it makes sense that he has that logic to think a dying man's request is trivial. he isn't quite the HERO yet and not a MAN yet. He fumbled along in the movie and was more of a genius than a strategist he becomes in years to come.

If he thought it was trivial why make it in the first place???

 

[AF3619]

If he thought it was trivial why make it in the first place???

he tried but his feelings couldn´t let him[BLACKOUT](sounds cheesy but i saw it that way)[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Leenie]

Well IMHO is a Teenager, and when Stacy makes him promise about leaving Gwen out he tries but again he is a teenager he learns from F****ing things up (probably TASM2)

Him breaking a dying man's last request and fully acknowledging that he's breaking a promise (while cracking a joke) doesn't make him look like a regular Joe who effs up once in a while. It makes him look like a horrible person.

I honestly did not oppose Peter and Gwen ending up together at the end of the movie. That aspect is completely fine. I just think they could have done it much better. Maybe they should have had Captain Stacy's request be something along the lines of "Keep Gwen safe," and then have all that drama/conflict happen before he decides he can still protect her while also being with her? Almost anything would have been better than what we ended up with, in my opinion.

Honestly, I could rant about this ONE part for a long time, because I have issues with how Gwen acted about this whole thing too. What it boils down to, for me, is the screenplay and how incredibly messy it is. The screenplay murdered this movie for me.

 

[Supa]

I was bugged (pun intended) by the "broken promises line", but if they pick it up in the sequel and have the character grow from it, and have the "great power comes great responsibility" not just be a catchphrase but a theme for the trilogy, then that's brilliant.
But if they don't have Peter learn from it, then I have a problem.

 

[roach]

Him breaking a dying man's last request and fully acknowledging that he's breaking a promise (while cracking a joke) doesn't make him look like a regular Joe who effs up once in a while. It makes him look like a horrible person.

I honestly did not oppose Peter and Gwen ending up together at the end of the movie. That aspect is completely fine. I just think they could have done it much better. Maybe they should have had Captain Stacy's request be something along the lines of "Keep Gwen safe," and then have all that drama/conflict happen before he decides he can still protect her while also being with her? Almost anything would have been better than what we ended up with, in my opinion.

Honestly, I could rant about this ONE part for a long time, because I have issues with how Gwen acted about this whole thing too. What it boils down to, for me, is the screenplay and how incredibly messy it is. The screenplay murdered this movie for me.

I had a problem with the editing

 

[Leenie]

I had a problem with the editing

I can see that. I think there were editing problems in the final act of the film.

 

[roach]

I can see that. I think there were editing problems in the final act of the film.

Rumor I heard was that Sony wasn't happy with the "Untold Story". It would have involved Peter's dad experimenting on him and whatever he did along with the spider bite gave him his powers. They last minute edited things out...which is why the trailers are full of stuff not even in the movies.

 

[Leenie]

Rumor I heard was that Sony wasn't happy with the "Untold Story". It would have involved Peter's dad experimenting on him and whatever he did along with the spider bite gave him his powers. They last minute edited things out...which is why the trailers are full of stuff not even in the movies.

In a way, I'm so glad that was edited out. If that had been left in, I would have downright HATED this movie. Nothing but pure, unadulterated hate and contempt for this movie, honestly. Haha.

Now, an issue I have with Spider-Man 3 is a lot of the editing, but I would have liked to have seen some extra scenes, based on some of the scenes I heard about that were left out (at least). The infamous/rumored "Untold Story" plot in this film, though, is something I never EVER want to see.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Oh I agree. It was definitely a good thing that it was gone, but it left the movie with a lot of editing problems. Much better would have been not putting it in the movie in the first place.

 

[Leenie]

Oh I agree. It was definitely a good thing that it was gone, but it left the movie with a lot of editing problems. Much better would have been not putting it in the movie in the first place.

And, once again, we're back to the shoddy screenplay (for putting it in there in the first place). lol.

I agree that the "Untold Story" plot should have never even been a thought to put into the movie, but I would rather deal with some sloppy editing than to have that in Spider-Man's origin. This is a case where the comic book nerd in me trumps the film nerd. Haha.

 

[sharpwriter17]

The one thing I didn't like is the way Peter Parker was portrayed in the film. It wasn't anything against Andrew Garfield, I like him fine, but the way the Peter Parker in this film was created was just weird to me. In all the comic books I've read, not to mention the first Spider-Man film, Peter is a very shy, introverted, and outcast kind of teen. In this movie, he seemed very sure of himself and seemed like he was a loner on purpose. I don't know, I could be wrong, but that was just the kind of feel I got from him. Maybe they were basing the character off of a different series of comic books that I haven't read yet.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Peter comes off as an outcast here. At least in the Raimi film he had his best friend Harry. Which was kind of it. But it was something. Here he doesn't have a friend in the world. Far as we can tell.

The way he interacted with Gwen, seemed to imply he didn't socialize a lot.

 

[Jexx]

Harry didn't meet Peter until college.

Peter most likely didn't socialize a lot, he seemed like a loner. Being an orphan can do that to you.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Them meeting in college does make more sense.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

Harry didn't meet Peter until college.

Peter most likely didn't socialize a lot, he seemed like a loner. Being an orphan can do that to you.

in spiderman 1 they were friends in high school, they were together on the field trip but norman had to drop harry off. unless you are talking about the comic book, then nevermind.


i think if they just sat on this movie for 1 more year and really thought about it before shooting a single scene the movie would have been better. it just seemed poorly put together and i found myself losing attention and not caring.

a lot of missed during my viewing, i will have to watch it again(not in theaters though cause i dont have that kinda cash, this isnt AVENGERS)

in the end this movie did some things that i liked and some that i didnt, same with raimi 1 and 2 . what we need is a combo of those strengths in amazing spidey 2. and someone please get the writers a book on physics....footballs dont do that!!!!

 

[MilkmanDan]

11. "Broken promises are the best kind." Wow. Way to send a terrible message to your audience there, movie. Then again, you know very well Peter going back on a dying man's last wish is going to wind up biting him in the ass given what we know what is destined for Gwen.

Well, it's not like Captain Stacy is going to know if he kept his promise or not. And while I understand Stacy's feeling on the matter, it's not really his call to make. Does dying really give you the right to suddenly guilt people into doing whatever you want? (Hmmm... I think I'm going to write down a list of wacky requests to use on my death bed.)

 

[Havok83]

Well, it's not like Captain Stacy is going to know if he kept his promise or not. And while I understand Stacy's feeling on the matter, it's not really his call to make. Does dying really give you the right to suddenly guilt people into doing whatever you want? (Hmmm... I think I'm going to write down a list of wacky requests to use on my death bed.)

thats exactly how I felt. The dead shouldnt use their death to manipulate people into doing what they want.

 

[Drummerdude7]

Rumor I heard was that Sony wasn't happy with the "Untold Story". It would have involved Peter's dad experimenting on him and whatever he did along with the spider bite gave him his powers. They last minute edited things out...which is why the trailers are full of stuff not even in the movies.

Big rumour. Webb said it wasn't true. It's - at this point- baseless fan speculation and assumptions based on a few trailer lines. We don't know the context of what was cut.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Well, it's not like Captain Stacy is going to know if he kept his promise or not. And while I understand Stacy's feeling on the matter, it's not really his call to make. Does dying really give you the right to suddenly guilt people into doing whatever you want? (Hmmm... I think I'm going to write down a list of wacky requests to use on my death bed.)

Agreed. Besides, he was keeping his promise until Aunt May countered his thoughts about him not being "good" for her.

 

[Streetlight]

Also it's not like he didn't put the effort in. He tried to stay away but saw how Gwen was feeling about it and she seemed annoyed with her dad for making him promise. I think it's fair enough.

 

[AF3619]

Agreed. Besides, he was keeping his promise until Aunt May countered his thoughts about him not being "good" for her.

Also it's not like he didn't put the effort in. He tried to stay away but saw how Gwen was feeling about it and she seemed annoyed with her dad for making him promise. I think it's fair enough.

 

[chaseter]

Booty > possible death amirite?

Stacy gives his speech about how Peter's enemies will eventually hurt Gwen as he sits there dying from the exact same thing he wants to protect Gwen from but dammit...Peter is good enough for Gwen : /

 

[Jexx]

I always saw him saying that "[promises you can't keep]..are the most fun" was a way to tell Gwen that he loved her and wanted to stay with her, and was thinking that he wouldn't be able to keep the promise, if not breaking it that same day.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think it doesn't reflect well on Peter that right after Gwen loses her father for doing a similar line of work and makes that promise, he breaks it. I also think it is poor writing that she would want to date him that much after her father died. She earlier said she was hesitant for that very reason. Capt. Stacy's death should have made her feel more strongly questionnable on dating Peter. Not immediately want him. Should have been more conflict. The promise was a good idea, but the ending handles that death in a messy fashion afterward.