Assassin´s Creed III - Part 1

[SpideyVille]

I actually thought Revelations was too short. I mean you don't really do anything in the ninth and final memory sequence but walk around and watch some cutscenes. Brotherhood was also nine sequences long, whereas ACII had 14 sequences, which includes the two DLC ones. But of course, those last two had MP, which I think ultimately took away some focus from the main stories.

And I heard an interesting point from IGN about how would Ubisoft market this to the European market? It's basically a game where you get to kill some members of your nations army. Its really weird because its not like the Redcoats were as bad as the Nazi's were in WWII or something, since that's usually the main enemies in games centered around past wars.

 

[Soapy]

It doesn't surprise me. Ubisoft is really behind the Wii U.

Ubisoft heavily supports every new console. I guess they figure if they flood store shelves with their games, people are much more likely to buy their games and become invested in their franchises. That's my take anyway.

 

[Guhndoi]

Just saw the trailer reveal. So excited for this game. Playing in this setting is going to be very interesting.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I know what you're trying to say, but it boggles my mind/makes me chuckle to think that anyone considers a time period that saw the rise of science, literature, art, architecture, philosophy, and diplomacy (and was paramount in the development of the modern age) to be "stale" or "boring".

I think anyone complaining about any of the time periods in this series are screwballs. Say what you want about the series, but it has had some great locations and gone through some great time periods. Thats not changing with AC III.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I know what you're trying to say, but it boggles my mind/makes me chuckle to think that anyone considers a time period that saw the rise of science, literature, art, architecture, philosophy, and diplomacy (and was paramount in the development of the modern age) to be "stale" or "boring".

Not to mention all the murder that actually did happen in Renaissance Italy. There's a reason Mario Puzo used it as inspiration for The Godfather.

 

[cherokeesam]

I know what you're trying to say, but it boggles my mind/makes me chuckle to think that anyone considers a time period that saw the rise of science, literature, art, architecture, philosophy, and diplomacy (and was paramount in the development of the modern age) to be "stale" or "boring".

Eh, I love history (even picked up a minor in it in college), but my eyes always glazed over during Renaissance classes, even art history ones. Just seemed too textbook-y and museum-y, and I'm sure the same can be said for Colonial/Revolutionary America and all those marble monuments. But AC did a phenomenal job in bringing the Renaissance to life and really immersing you into the culture, and I have no doubt AC3 will do the same in bringing history to vibrant, colorful life.

 

[Perfect Cell]

I've always found American history fascinating (I'm Canadian), so I am actually really excited about how this game looks. The shame is, I've only played the first game, so I have a lot of catching up to do.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't think you can come down too hard on someone for not being excited about a period of history in an AC game... Not every historical period will appeal to everyone as a premise... That doesn't mean they won;t enjoy the game though, just that they aren't going to be jumping up and down and posting 'my body is ready' gifs until they know more about the game.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I don't think you can come down too hard on someone for not being excited about a period of history in an AC game.

No i think you deff can. For starters, history in general is fascinating, but Ubisoft is cherry picking some of the most key times throughout history. To not be excited for any of the time periods we have visited, simply means you're a schlub.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I've always found American history fascinating (I'm Canadian), so I am actually really excited about how this game looks. The shame is, I've only played the first game, so I have a lot of catching up to do.

AC II is fantastic man. You'll really like that one.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Does anyone think the main characters outfit looks too out of place for the setting? I mean he is an assassin right you're supposed to blend in to some degree. In the middle ages/renaissance maybe you can get away with the cloak look but he'd stick out too much by the 18th century.

I just think they should have changed the look slightly from the previous games.

 

[jerkhero]

Well, i think the cloak works well in snowy forest, but yeah, it really sticks out in cities.

Hopefully they change the combat enough, that's probably the most boring aspect in these games for me.

 

[cherokeesam]

No i think you deff can. For starters, history in general is fascinating, but Ubisoft is cherry picking some of the most key times throughout history. To not be excited for any of the time periods we have visited, simply means you're a schlub.

I have no idea what a "schlub" is. You must have a unique dictionary.

And no, history "in general" is *not* always fascinating --- and I say that as a long-time student of history and self-proclaimed History Channel addict. Yes, by and large, there's plenty of drama and action to be found in any given time and any given place, but actually liking different eras and nations and empires is purely a matter of personal preference.

What I found "boring" about the Renaissance is not the actual setting or the historical record --- far from it: there's plenty of drama and action there, and it's certainly the high-water mark of Western civilization. Instead, I just got bored, as a history student, from hearing about it ALL the time. No matter what subject I studied in college, no matter what era I covered in different classes, you *always* come back to roots in the Renaissance, and I just got tired of hearing about Leonardo and Machiavelli and the Borgias and the Medici ad nauseam.

That being said: a game about that is a horse of a different color. While gaming has been saturated with modern warfare, WWII, zombies 'n' vampires, space opera, medieval fantasy, and ninjas 'n' samurai milieus, a video game that used the actual High Renaissance as its setting remains completely unique and never duplicated.

It's one thing to read about history in dusty old textbooks and to stare at lifeless renditions in oil paintings and marble at the museums and monuments, but it's quite another to be part of history coming to life in a format you can actually interact with.

 

[Sebastos]

I've always found American history fascinating (I'm Canadian), so I am actually really excited about how this game looks. The shame is, I've only played the first game, so I have a lot of catching up to do.

You're in for a treat with ACII.

 

[SpideyVille]

I think the fact the Ubisoft is attempting to base and set a game around the American Revolution is what makes this most interesting and intriguing. I mean when I look back at Red Dead Redemption, it seemed like a weird thing having the company behind GTA do something set in a time that was only mde interesting through movies. The Old West gets more fame based on fantasy and fictional stories about Cowboys and Indians. Yet Rockstar was able to do something great with that to deliver a unique experience and a really great story.

For me, that's what makes this game seem interesting. Its not necessarily the time period or setting, but moreso the face that Ubisoft is attempting to do something with it. Say what you want about the Ezio games, but if there's one thing that they succeeded with, it was making the setting and the environment feel as real as possible. They definitely do their homework to make it as true to reality as possible, while also adding in their own fictional stuff without trying to re-write history completely. For that reason alone, I'm very excited to see their take on this, especially in a time period not commonly dealt with in media in general.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I think more options is always great. I've heard that quite alot of people prefer to play Assassin's Creed 2, and Brotherhood, in Italian with English subtitles.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Just Preordered.. Got this.

I was telling Pat about this last night. It was a nice surprise when I pre-ordered it, moving one pre-order that I wasn't going to use at that Gamestop store, and they gave the steelbook.

The Steelbook, from what was said, is supposed to be limited to those who pre-order early...so I guess this is one way to guarantee they do that.

So, I guess Bestbuy and Amazon.com will just do the same? Though, it'd be weird for Amazon to just send the steelbook box empty to you.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

That wouldn't really make sense for an AC game though. Desmond is not Italian or Middle Eastern. He doesnt speak those languages. I mean he's even commented about that. The animus alters the language so he can understand it.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I'm fine with the language. The Animus is the ultimate storytelling device, because essentially Desmond is in a very advanced games console. The HUD, the language, the menus all make sense within the context of the games.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

So, I guess Bestbuy and Amazon.com will just do the same? Though, it'd be weird for Amazon to just send the steelbook box empty to you.

Yea that would be odd. Im hoping those steel book cases will still be available once the CE gets announced. Im deff going that route.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

That wouldn't really make sense for an AC game though. Desmond is not Italian or Middle Eastern. He doesnt speak those languages. I mean he's even commented about that. The animus alters the language so he can understand it.

Who cares? It makes the Ezio parts more authentic. Besides, how do you think non-English speakers play the game?

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Besides, how do you think non-English speakers play the game?

Incorrectly?


And no, the Ezio parts are not more authentic because Desmond is hearing them in English.


Im mean I'm all for more options, my point was that it makes sense for it all to be in English, due to the Animus. I just phrased my statement wrong.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Incorrectly?

That's a pretty ignorant thing to say.

And no, the Ezio parts are not more authentic because Desmond is hearing them in English.

But the events didn't originally occur in English, they occurred in Italian. Besides, when Ezio speaks Latin, you still hear the Latin.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

That's a pretty ignorant thing to say.

Eh that was just an offensive joke.

I edited my previous post to include what i mean by my previous post to my most previous post.

 

[cherokeesam]

That's a pretty ignorant thing to say.


But the events didn't originally occur in English, they occurred in Italian. Besides, when Ezio speaks Latin, you still hear the Latin.

A lot of the characters, including Ezio, alternate between English and Italian. Which, to me, from a purely literal standpoint, makes even less sense. It's like bad WWII movies that have the Germans speak a little (*very* little) German mixed in with their English. "Ach du lieber! Herr Oberleutnant, the Amerikaners are attacking! Gott in himmel! Vat should ve do....?" That annoys the hell out of me more than anything else. Either use the foreign language and subtitle it, or just leave it in English and quit trying to pepper it with foreign phrasing to make it sound more "authentic" or "smart". It sounds neither....it sounds stupid.