Assassin´s Creed III - Part 1

[zenith16]

What doesn't make sense? Allow me to reiterate:
He becomes an Assassin of his own accord, not because of his lineage.

The newest trailer just confirms that he seeks out the Assassin's Creed for training - he wasn't born into it like Ezio or Altair. Slim chance that his father also happened to be an Assassin, especially when he grew up in a Mowhawk village.

That said, even if his father had Italian/Arab blood in him, it would be a TREMENDOUS coincidence if Connor's father was a descendent of Ezio or Altair when Connor has to search out the Creed to begin with.

ok just a slight correction here. Ezio wasn't born into it really his old man was apart of the assassin's yes But that's where it stopped, for him he was brought in cause his family were murdered by the Templars and cause Ezio was a bit of a jerk of which his being that some how lead those Templar's to his family. (That and his old man never made it clear to him to be careful with his action or didn't beat it in his head hard enough and tell him why)


Altair(who's french mix with Middle Eastern I think, it was middle age's back then at the time ) on the other hand was as you can say born into it.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

@Asteroid,

My comment was aimed at Zenith, not you

 

[Asteroid-Man]

ok just a slight correction here. Ezio wasn't born into it really his old man was apart of the assassin's yes But that's where it stopped, for him he was brought in cause his family were murdered by the Templars and cause Ezio was a bit of a jerk of which his being that some how lead those Templar's to his family. (That and his old man never made it clear to him to be careful with his action or didn't beat it in his head hard enough and tell him why)


Altair(who's french mix with Middle Eastern I think, it was middle age's back then at the time ) on the other hand was as you can say born into it.

You're arguing semantics. Ezio (for all intents and purposes) was born into the Creed. Sure his father didn't force it on him, but if Ezio's father wasn't an Assassin - if his Uncle and great-grandfather weren't Assassins, then Ezio himself would never have become one.

Altair was literally raised to be an Assassin since birth.

That said, Connor doesn't become an Assassin based on his lineage or his father. He wants to protect his people and to bring them justice, and he seeks out this man who he had never met - a man that he heard could train him. His initial push is not his parents (like Altair and Ezio - hell even Desmond), so if his dad does turn out to be an Assassin, it would be a huge coincidence.

@Asteroid,

My comment was aimed at Zenith, not you

Ah, my mistake.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Ah, my mistake

Well, to be fair to you, i didn't use any quotes.

You're arguing semantics. Ezio (for all intents and purposes) was born into the Creed. Sure his father didn't force it on him, but if Ezio's father wasn't an Assassin - if his Uncle and great-grandfather weren't Assassins, then Ezio himself would never have become one.

Altair was literally raised to be an Assassin since birth.

That said, Connor doesn't become an Assassin based on his lineage or his father. He wants to protect his people and to bring them justice, and he seeks out this man who he had never met - a man that he heard could train him. His initial push is not his parents (like Altair and Ezio - hell even Desmond), so if his dad does turn out to be an Assassin, it would be a huge coincidence.

Which, to be honest, is a much cooler idea. It's like Batman or Zorro. Someone who seeks out learning and training, and judging from the trailer, disagrees eventually with his mentor and ultimately proves himself as the greater master

I am so ready for this game.

 

[cherokeesam]

Well no, being a full Native American would have still made him an outcast to the red coats and the Patriots. Thinking about it now though, having him as half English makes him almost an outcast to his own people too.

Actually, being Native American wouldn't have made him an outcast. Not in this time period. The overt racism towards Indians didn't really pick up until Westward expansion in the 19th century; in the 18th century, many Indian tribes intermarried freely with whites, lived in cities, went to English schools, and were largely regarded as equal and "civilized," including my own Cherokees and Connor's Mohawks. Mixed-blood or full-blood, a man of Connor's ethnicity wouldn't have been an outcast in colonial society.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Actually, being Native American wouldn't have made him an outcast. Not in this time period. The overt racism towards Indians didn't really pick up until Westward expansion in the 19th century; in the 18th century, many Indian tribes intermarried freely with whites, lived in cities, went to English schools, and were largely regarded as equal and "civilized," including my own Cherokees and Connor's Mohawks. Mixed-blood or full-blood, a man of Connor's ethnicity wouldn't have been an outcast in colonial society.

That doesn't mean he wouldn't have been an outcast. Outcast doesn't mean he is demonised and treated with hostility, simply that he doesn't belong in any one society, but on the fringes. By having him half Mohawk and half English, it gives him the character purpose of someone outside of anyone one culture or society, therefore someone who questions the status quo and the way things are, like most outcasts from popular fiction.

 

[cherokeesam]

That doesn't mean he wouldn't have been an outcast. Outcast doesn't mean he is demonised and treated with hostility, simply that he doesn't belong in any one society, but on the fringes. By having him half Mohawk and half English, it gives him the character purpose of someone outside of anyone one culture or society, therefore someone who questions the status quo and the way things are, like most outcasts from popular fiction.

True. I'm just saying that it wasn't unusual for full-bloods or mixed-bloods to live in both worlds, so AC3 operates from a point of authenticity, in case anyone was questioning that part of it.

 

[Naked Shia]

They already said Desmond would be featured a lot more than in previous game, and knowing this is the end of his story, I think it's safe to assume there will be a big pay off.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Actually, being Native American wouldn't have made him an outcast. Not in this time period. The overt racism towards Indians didn't really pick up until Westward expansion in the 19th century; in the 18th century, many Indian tribes intermarried freely with whites, lived in cities, went to English schools, and were largely regarded as equal and "civilized," including my own Cherokees and Connor's Mohawks. Mixed-blood or full-blood, a man of Connor's ethnicity wouldn't have been an outcast in colonial society.

That's what I'm hoping for. I like that this doesn't just look like a game where America is the good guys. We'll actually see the subjectiveness of war and how an objective observer sees both sides. He doesn't fit in either society and is neither fully integrated to either.

Also, anyone else thinking George may have a POE and that is what sends him insane?

 

[ProjectPat2280]

That's what I'm hoping for. I like that this doesn't just look like a game where America is the good guys. We'll actually see the subjectiveness of war and how an objective observer sees both sides. He doesn't fit in either society and is neither fully integrated to either.

Also, anyone else thinking George may have a POE and that is what sends him insane?

I'll wager any amount that by the end of the game, you'll have killed more people in red coats than blue.

But yea, im looking forward to playing this character in this position. Going to be reallllly interesting.

 

[AF3619]

First Desmond Photo Revealed.

His face looks different (changes every game with new protagonist)still like it more than revelation´s but he has a different backpack , and i hope he has eagle-like hood
is that the Assassin´s base or the vault at the end of Revelations

 

[Wolvieboy17]

He looks more like AC 2 Desmond which is fine with me. Shaun and Rebecca look pretty different though

 

[SpideyVille]

They did update the faces of people in Revelations, and we barely saw them except at the end. Heck, I looked at a picture of Ezio from ACB and it looked so cartoony compared to how he looked in ACR.

 

[Naked Shia]

I wonder how shaun and rebecca will act with Desmond, after what he did at the end of Brotherhood.

 

[Havok83]

Just 3 weeks ago. Why couldnt this come out earlier in the month? Got my PS3 bundle reserved last week and hopefully they get those in stores on release day. I still havent seen the Uncharted one outside of GS

 

[AF3619]

I wonder how shaun and rebecca will act with Desmond, after what he did at the end of Brotherhood.

i guess he´ll explain them what happened

 

[AxlsAppetite]

Especially when they find out what Lucy really was.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I still don't like that Lucy was a templar. It didn't seem planned at all. In fact, my guess would be that it became too expensive to keep Kristen Bell involved.

Edit: Actually, I didn't mind the Templar twist, but killing her off totally undermined the impact of her being a traitor.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I still don't like that Lucy was a templar. It didn't seem planned at all. In fact, my guess would be that it became too expensive to keep Kristen Bell involved.

Edit: Actually, I didn't mind the Templar twist, but killing her off totally undermined the impact of her being a traitor.

I still didnt believe it. I was like nah, thats just that b***h messin with Desmond. But seeing as how shes now out of series, i guess that wasnt fake.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Well that and it gets revealed in Revelations that she was a Templar double agent who got turned because she thought William Miles was too distant and Warren Vidic was good to her... I mean, how lame and fickle is that, someone who seemed so passionate about the Assassin Templar War, and she turns sides because she's got a weird father figure issue :/

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Well that and it gets revealed in Revelations that she was a Templar double agent who got turned because she thought William Miles was too distant and Warren Vidic was good to her... I mean, how lame and fickle is that, someone who seemed so passionate about the Assassin Templar War, and she turns sides because she's got a weird father figure issue :/

I did not know that. I rushed through Revelations so damn fast that nothing stuck. But yea, that is SUPER lame. Like you said, Kristen Bell just either didnt have the time or she was costing too much. Would of been more meaningful if the Templars had of killed her rather than she turning.

 

[SolarTiger]

I still don't like that Lucy was a templar. It didn't seem planned at all. In fact, my guess would be that it became too expensive to keep Kristen Bell involved.

Edit: Actually, I didn't mind the Templar twist, but killing her off totally undermined the impact of her being a traitor.

Agreed, I never really bought that story arc. Probably was too expensive to keep, like you said.

Well that and it gets revealed in Revelations that she was a Templar double agent who got turned because she thought William Miles was too distant and Warren Vidic was good to her... I mean, how lame and fickle is that, someone who seemed so passionate about the Assassin Templar War, and she turns sides because she's got a weird father figure issue :/

Where in ACR was this revealed? I don't remember any of this.

 

[AF3619]

Agreed, I never really bought that story arc. Probably was too expensive to keep, like you said.


Where in ACR was this revealed? I don't remember any of this.

The DLC Lost Archive or something

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[SpideyVille]

Yeah, I was about to ask if it was ever revealed what the true story because her death was. I think I saw something mentioned in the encyclopedia, but I don't remember anything from the game, especially since I didn't even bother with the DLC.

But I agree, I think it was more about Bell either being unavailable or unwilling to be a part of any sequels, or something like that. It was a good twist, but it came out of nowhere. It was treated as a cliffhanger but wasn't really acknowledged in ACR, other than Shaun mentioning something about being at her funeral.

 

[AF3619]

Yeah, I was about to ask if it was ever revealed what the true story because her death was. I think I saw something mentioned in the encyclopedia, but I don't remember anything from the game, especially since I didn't even bother with the DLC.

But I agree, I think it was more about Bell either being unavailable or unwilling to be a part of any sequels, or something like that. It was a good twist, but it came out of nowhere. It was treated as a cliffhanger but wasn't really acknowledged in ACR, other than Shaun mentioning something about being at her funeral.

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Don´t know if it was planned but i really liked that, and i can´t wait to know what Clay´s message from ACB meant