I would love to see the American Revolution, French Revolution, World War I or II. World War II being the easiest to pull off story wise as many Germans citizens said after the war when asked why they followed such a mad man. Many of those citizens often said that when Hitler spoke it was as if they were in a trance from his words which fits in with the whole apple thing. The other fact that Hitler supposedly committed suicide is another thing.
I think the World Wars are way too modern and they should stay away from those. I really have no interest in doing anything involving the US as the foreign lands seem mroe appealing to me
Yeah, America is boring. You can't do the American Revolution because the environments would be really boring to explore as there wouldn't be many large buildings or landmarks. WWI and WWII wouldn't work b/c of the wide use of guns. I think Victorian England is the latest you can go.
I think the World Wars are way too modern and they should stay away from those. I really have no interest in doing anything involving the US as the foreign lands seem mroe appealing to me
Neither WWI or II were ever fought on American soil they were mostly fought in Europe. World War I wasn't as mordern as you might think. They were still in the infancy of what is modern war.Just like in the first AC which occured during the Crusades the assassin shouldn't be apart of history but somebody who works behind the scenes wiping out those who wish to prosper from the misery of war.
I think Victorian England is the latest you can go.
Victorian England is a pretty boring time as it was widely known as a great time of peace for England. Beside the Gothic architecture what makes this interesting backdrop for a video game who normally picks parts of history that are known for turbulence times?
Victorian England is a pretty boring time as it was widely known as a great time of peace for England. Beside the Gothic architecture what makes this interesting backdrop for a video game who normally picks parts of history that are known for turbulence times?
it could seem peaceful on the surface but they could easily reveal a secret fight taking place within this peaceful setting. I mean an assassination here and there in completely different towns would never be linked to one another. Atleast not so easily during that time. And besides isn't that exactly what is going on in the present? These Assassin/Templar skirmishes with not a single shred of media coverage.
it could seem peaceful on the surface but they could easily reveal a secret fight taking place within this peaceful setting. I mean an assassination here and there in completely different towns would never be linked to one another. Atleast not so easily during that time. And besides isn't that exactly what is going on in the present? These Assassin/Templar skirmishes with not a single shred of media coverage.
I'd love the game to take place in Desmonds time period, and have him going between three major cities around the world, trying to track down pieces of Eden. And then, to find clues, or find out where they're buried, he can use the animus (or his own mind, as is teased in the game) to travel back to the past versions of those cities... That could be really awesome. Imagine like, past and future Shanghai or something like that. Whatever happens, I really want to follow Desmonds story. I think between AC 1 and AC 2, they either need a time period that is DRASTICALLY different, technology wise (before it gets boring) or just focus on Desmonds story, which has been teased for 2 whole games.
A Colonial America setting would be boring. What would there be to climb around on? Just some short buildings and some church steeples. French Revolution or Victorian England would be best.
Yeah, America is boring. You can't do the American Revolution because the environments would be really boring to explore as there wouldn't be many large buildings or landmarks. WWI and WWII wouldn't work b/c of the wide use of guns. I think Victorian England is the latest you can go.
Colonial America wasnt a bunch of thattch-roofed houses and churches. Sure the smaller towns were but the big american cities were still pretty sizable around the time of Revolution.
In AC1 when you were rode through the countryside there were nothing but huts and the ocassional tower. But then when you got to the cities, there were a ton of things climb on.
Colonial Boston, NY, and Philadelphia were still rather large cities around the time of the Revolution and could be done in a similar vain to Damascus, Jerusalem, and Acre in AC1.
Yea but these writers tend to follow history a bit. Most of the characters they featured in this game were real people and died at the times when the game said they did. Sure, they could just start creating their own individuals but that would kind of go against what they had started in the first 2 games. Then again, maybe enough important people were killed during this 'peaceful' time that a setting like that could work. I mean im not against the England setting.
I actually think the next game wont be using the animus much, if at all tho. Desmond clearly has the skills his ancestors possessed and Desmond is clearly linked to the bigger picture within this universe. ACIII will be Desmonds story. Not an ancestors, imo.
Colonial America wasnt a bunch of thattch-roofed houses and churches. Sure the smaller towns were but the big american cities were still pretty sizable around the time of Revolution.
In AC1 when you were rode through the countryside there were nothing but huts and the ocassional tower. But then when you got to the cities, there were a ton of things climb on.
Colonial Boston, NY, and Philadelphia were still rather large cities around the time of the Revolution and could be done in a similar vain to Damascus, Jerusalem, and Acre in AC1.
They would still pale in comparison to the cities of AC1. At least you had tall towers there to climb. there wouldn't be anything like that. Besides, the game is much more appealing when they do it in a foreign country.
They would still pale in comparison to the cities of AC1. At least you had tall towers there to climb. there wouldn't be anything like that. Besides, the game is much more appealing when they do it in a foreign country.
The Americas fit with how they are following the migration of Desmond ancestors. They went from the middle east to Italy. Their suggested migration pattern seems to be heading west. Then take into account in Ezio's time people would of already started to migrate to the new world. Btw the use of guns became widespread very soon after Ezio time. Even in Vicotrian England where the pickle gun was introduced in 1718 which fired 9 shots per minute compared to musket which shot 3.
If I have to choose between Victorian England which is peaceful in the 1800's which is the beginning of the industrial Revolution, The American Revolution and French Revolution of the late 1700's which also ties into The Rise of Napoleon. Guess which one I'm picking
I still think Desmonds gonna be the main guy in the next main title if it turns out this next "episode" is just a 2.5. I mean all the signs point that way.
Sam Fisher isnt obsolete, and dude is pretty much an assassin, just ask Hugo Lacerda and the many other enemies he's knifed in the back.
But, im with you. I deff dont really want to see any automatic weaponry. Its why im hoping im wrong on the whole Desmond being THE guy this next time around. I loved the time periods the first 2 games took place in and dont want to see them go too much further.
I just finished Assassin's Creed II a few days ago (got it for Christmas). And WOW. That was an amazing game. Everything Assassin's Creed promised to be but didn't live up to, AC2 fulfilled. I still prefer a setting during the Crusades to the Rennaisance, that game was amazing.
I loved Ezio, working with Leonardo DaVinci, completely renovating my villa, buying all the paintings and reading them, getting Altair's armor, etc. etc.
I just thoroughly enjoyed it. A few questions and speculations:
Does anybody think Altair could return? Think about it, the Codex pages end with Altair saying he is scared of death and looking at the piece of Eden one last time. He could be back. Also, do you think Desmond having a Templar as an ancestor may affect what he can find in the Animus or how the assassins will react when they find out?
Also, I didn't collect the whole "Truth" but got close to half of it and between that and the video look of the "goddess" or Minerva at the end...is AC saying our concepts of religion, God and/or gods all comes from aliens? I'm not sure I like that direction...
As for the next game. Well if there is a new setting, Victorian London would be brilliant. Imagine killing Jack the Ripper? Discovering if Sweeney really lived? They could have you be the one who killed Queen Victoria's son that many thought was murdered. And visually if you've ever watched anything Dickensian, Stoker or Doyle related, you'd know it would look amazing.
The Revolution, as others have said, wouldn't work because the early US was too spacious. It was about individualism and land ownership for the colonists. There just weren't a lot of cities and the ones that there were were not nearly as big as their European counterparts. I love early American history, but not in this case. And unless you're killing Aaron Burr, I wouldn't want to be killing those people.
But AC3 is pretty clearly going to take place, mostly at least, in 2012. AC2 leaves it wide open that it is Desmond's time now and even at the beginning he says it is his story and at the end
He is revealed to be the prophet.
But yeah. That was a 9.7/10 (a few flaws and repetition keeps a perfect 10) and my game of 2009 right there.
The next one sounds like a spin-off as they never clearly called it AC3 and it is about Ezio, when at the end of AC2, they made it very clear that Ezio's role in the story involving Desmond was over. I would love to play Ezio some more and actually climb Rome, but as amazingly fun as AC2 is, I don't want to go back to the Rennisance.
The real AC3 (I bet it comes out in 2012, to match the date of the actual setting of the game) will be about Desmond. I would love to be climbing 1880s-1890s Big Ben though.
Does anybody think Altair could return? Think about it, the Codex pages end with Altair saying he is scared of death and looking at the piece of Eden one last time. He could be back. Also, do you think Desmond having a Templar as an ancestor may affect what he can find in the Animus or how the assassins will react when they find out?
Also, I didn't collect the whole "Truth" but got close to half of it and between that and the video look of the "goddess" or Minerva at the end...is AC saying our concepts of religion, God and/or gods all comes from aliens? I'm not sure I like that direction...
Yea, it appears that way. Im not fond of that direction either, but only because it's kind of the "in" thing right now. I figured they could come up with something a little more unique.
Victorian England is a pretty boring time as it was widely known as a great time of peace for England. Beside the Gothic architecture what makes this interesting backdrop for a video game who normally picks parts of history that are known for turbulence times?
That's a weak argument. The Renaissance was a time of great prosperity, peace and enlightenment for Italy. The Great Schism was over, The Hundred Years War was no longer bothering Europe and Henry VIII igniting religious war was decades off. It was considered the end of the Middle Ages due to its intellectual bliss. And they made an amazing game about that. And Victorian London had far more crime, instability and social strife. Serial killers on the street, lecherous royal family members and an empire profiting off of imperial war in Africa, the MIddle East and Southeast Asia in both India and China.
There was some real ugliness to Victorian London. It could easily work. As much as the Renaissance did, which for the most part (with notable exceptions) was a more prosperous time.
Sam Fisher isnt obsolete, and dude is pretty much an assassin, just ask Hugo Lacerda and the many other enemies he's knifed in the back.
But, im with you. I deff dont really want to see any automatic weaponry. Its why im hoping im wrong on the whole Desmond being THE guy this next time around. I loved the time periods the first 2 games took place in and dont want to see them go too much further.
That's the thing though. There's a big difference between Ezio and Sam Fisher. Having a modern setting for an AC game would lose what makes the series unique.
The only modern-like setting I'd be up for would be the futuristic setting that Desmond is in. I cannot think of how they'd make it work without it looking like too much, but I'd be interested to see what they can do with the futuristic setting.
Modern day setting? Ehh...not so much.
I think unless they have a trick up they're sleeve, taking it to Colonial America can SEEM like a step back.
I mean, just look at the cities we ran through and climbed our ways around in ACII.
They've set a standard, that I don't think a very very young America can hold up.
I dunno. I'd have to be sold on the idea. Old Time England sounds like a great idea to me.
The only modern-like setting I'd be up for would be the futuristic setting that Desmond is in. I cannot think of how they'd make it work without it looking like too much, but I'd be interested to see what they can do with the futuristic setting.
That's a weak argument. The Renaissance was a time of great prosperity, peace and enlightenment for Italy. The Great Schism was over, The Hundred Years War was no longer bothering Europe and Henry VIII igniting religious war was decades off. It was considered the end of the Middle Ages due to its intellectual bliss. And they made an amazing game about that. And Victorian London had far more crime, instability and social strife. Serial killers on the street, lecherous royal family members and an empire profiting off of imperial war in Africa, the MIddle East and Southeast Asia in both India and China.
There was some real ugliness to Victorian London. It could easily work. As much as the Renaissance did, which for the most part (with notable exceptions) was a more prosperous time.
However calm and peaceful the Renaissance looked on the outside underneath all that good PR was waring city states, and assassination up the culo thats why it worked. It was known for its art and forward thinking but there was much turmoil underneath.
Here are the trends I've noticed from the AC franchise as pertaining to backdrops one: more than one city ,two: strong historical ties to real struggle in strife, three: the people that were killed actually died during that time. Under those guidelines Victorian Era doesn't hold up, a; not that bad of a place to be during that time compared to more tenuous situations in France, America, and hell even Russia, B: the government was greedy but nothing from the people in the mold of social disobedience, so were they really that mistreated C: Besides Prince Albert no one else died of consequence that you could twist so that it could look like the work of an assassin.
Personally I think an early America story could work, I think the era is interesting enough to support it. However the civil war is as far as I'd go before jumping to current day and dealing with Desmond's story. I agree with the above that WWI and WWII are just too modern. Good luck trying to assassinate a squad of machine gun, bomb dropping, vehicle using soldiers with a hidden blade.
If you start letting the main character use guns himself (I'm talking about automatics, the hidden gun in AC2 was fine), then what seperates it from any other 3rd person shooter? AC's claim to fame was it's climbing, beautiful old world cities, and clever assassination technique's. I get that games have to change overtime as the story evolves, but change too much of the formula and it's not the same game anymore.
Atleast that's all IMO. I just don't see modern settings working unless it's dealing with Desmond's modern day problems. Even then I couldn't see a game solely dealing with modern day Desmond working too well, atleast some of the game would need to incorporate some old world gameplay.
Also, just a thought, but why does the story have to advance further? It's possible one of Desmond's even more ancient ancestor's saw something as well that can help solve the puzzle. Who's to say he didn't have an Egyptian relative that saw something important being put in a pyrmid, or something to that effect.
Also, just a thought, but why does the story have to advance further? It's possible one of Desmond's even more ancient ancestor's saw something as well that can help solve the puzzle. Who's to say he didn't have an Egyptian relative that saw something important being put in a pyrmid, or something to that effect.
Altho, i dont see how they can go any other way than into the present time. I mean they really built up the fact that Desmond is the key in this entire situation at the end of the previous game. We saw Desmond get the same abilities Ezio/Altair had and we heard that Desmond is basically the key to saving the universe.
I guess they can just do what they did with the last game, have you play as an ancestor and then right at the end you control Desmond, i just think if they do that they would have wasted all this build up with Desmond.
Im with most of you in that i dont want to see a modern setting, at all, hell i still hate the whole Desmond/Abstergo storyline. I still feel the game should have just been set in the actual time periods the game had you playing in.
Im with most of you in that i dont want to see a modern setting, at all, hell i still hate the whole Desmond/Abstergo storyline. I still feel the game should have just been set in the actual time periods the game had you playing in.
How do you figure? We dont know what they are doing for the next game? So far both games are set far from modern times. So no, i dont think the game would of eventually ended in modern times.
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