Batman: Arkham Origins

[zenith16]

Alot can be done that could be said for a lot of other potential games. but for this that would work well. there's lots to explore.

just spread it out a bit.

 

[Nathan]

Yeah, agreed. I think the "Worst Night Ever" approach certainly works. But, man when they stack up like that...it winds up feeling like deja vu over and over. Expanding the storytelling over the course of a year, The Long Halloween style for example, could give them way more opportunities than limiting themselves into one long night. You'd allow yourself room to do something interesting like devoting time to Batman's alter ego. Having Bruce attend a charity ball, seeing his issues with attachment to people by having bad break ups with girlfriends or something.

Definitely. A longer view of the storytelling could mean more opportunities to take the story into place the Arkham games couldn't, by virtue of taking place all in one night. I'd love for that being one of the changes made to the next Batman game.

I'm not sure if I'd like WBM to be working on more than one game. I'm not sure if they're as big as Rocksteady, but they'd have to be quite large to be able to balance two projects. Giving the next team, whoever they might be, as much time as Rocksteady would get is important too, for sure.

They really need to start with an Episodic format. Simply take Batman Vengeance and give it the quality of an Arkham game. In one of the best Batman stories, it took him 3 months to apprehend all of his rogues gallery. In the Arkham games, he does it in a single night. Every time. I'd like a story that unfolds over days, weeks, maybe even months. Let us do regular Bat shenanigans the first quarter of the game. Stopping thugs, Bank robberies, catching an escaped Arkham convict. Then eventually we discover a nefarious plot in the works, and that's where the game really starts to kick off.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

When I play Arkham City I miss the combat upgrade this game introduced of double special takedowns after you enter free flow focus mode.

 

[Jick]

Contrary to everyone else (apparently), I'd like a linear Batman game, next. We could go to many different places in and outside Gotham in a story that takes more than one day to unfold.

 

[I Am The Knight]

That is true. I actually enjoy linear games. Not everything has to be an open world.

 

[TheVileOne]

I really want Batman Beyond done in the style of Arkham City.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

After getting used to the open world style, it will be a little hard to imagine his next game being more linear.
Is Origins Blackgate a linear one? I played a little of that one before getting annoyed at the stiff controls I experienced.

 

[Snow Queen]

I'd be up for a linear game to spice it up a bit. Maybe a linear globe-trotting League of Assassins-heavy game.

 

[Havok83]

A linear game could work with one of the members of the Bat family as they have a more limited arsenal than Batman. It could also be an oppurtunity to take the game outside of Gotham

 

[jonathancrane]

I prefer they not sacrifice the nonlinear structure. However, I would love to see either:
-a Nightwing solo game set in Bludhaven.
-a Question game...with enhanced detective elements.
-a WW game set on Themyscira. Gameplay could have splashes of Castlevania: LOS and God of War.

 

[Mister J]

After getting used to the open world style, it will be a little hard to imagine his next game being more linear.
Is Origins Blackgate a linear one? I played a little of that one before getting annoyed at the stiff controls I experienced.

Struck me as linear. There was a demo on PS3 that I got my hands on a few weeks back. It was promptly deleted.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm nearly done with the main campaign of Arkham Origins in 'I Am the Night' mode, and then I will experiment with letting Lady Shiva kill me just to see if I will be forced to restart the whole thing from there. I won't be worried about lost effort since I will stash a copy of the save file containing my effort completing the main story in that campaign, and these copies work just fine on Steam.
Trust me, I tested it.

Now if the Court of Owl from the same developers is absolutely real, here is a list of things I want:

1. Maintain the art style. Arkham Origins has the best art style of all the games, they should keep this style, and improve graphics notably to fit a newer generation of consoles.
2. Bring Back Roger Craig Smith. Not just for consistency's sake, he is honestly great as the voice of Batman.
3. Make all gadgets available in New Game+. Why did they choose to not stay consistent with Rocksteady in keeping all gadgets from the start in New Game+? I want to use the remote-claw and glue grenades earlier in the game, and unlock most comm towers since the start. I can get behind not keeping the electric gloves before the death of Electrocutioner.
4. Bring back the Batcave. Cause it's an awesome feature, and listening to wisdom's of Alfred in there is charming and great.
5. Make it Possible to select costumes both in the Batcave and in the Main Menu. Cause why not? It's more fun to be able to start with one suit and switch to another amidst the campaign.
6. Remove the 'One Night Event' Formula. Realistically speaking, if you want to put effort into making the story credible, you should not make Batman fight and defeat Bane three times in one night, and defeat Killer Croc early that very same night. Even with all the protection he should have shattered knuckles and suffer from extreme fatigue after efforts of that grand scale in similar restricted time frame.
7. When We Lose, Bring Back the Option to Quit the Game or Retry the Mission. I don't like that Arkham Knight took this little bit of formula from Arkham Origins. It's a bit of extra pointless wait to wait for the loading screen to run its coarse and press on the pause button simply to choose to quit.
8. NO... JOKER. I understand having him as the true main villain in Arkham Origins, cause he needs his origin, and there is no way the arch nemesis of Batman would be relegated into the benches most of the time while he's available. This story however, can do without his presence.
9. Do a Better Job at Patching Glitches. Arkham Origins is mostly really good, but bugs hold it back from being the refined greatness. While facing Firefly on the bridge I faced a glitch that completely stopped Batman from moving on the shattered railing, I had to let Garfield kill Batman to be able to retry and move. Imagine if this happened in the 'No Retries' mode, the frustration would have been uncanny. I faced one while restarting a section in the original mode of seeing all enemies in that part of the mission drop into the floor. In the GCPD predator arena I fell into the abyss after restarting.
10. No Online/Multiplayer/Whatever Mode. Cause it probably helped with the glitches, and I can't play the online mode in Origins due to some annoying problem with the server.
11. Bring Back Christopher Drake as the Composer. The man's work is awesome, no more needs to be added for this point.
12. Don't make the Batmobile a War Machine. Arkham Knight is a different story, you need a powerful and highly efficient war machine for that situation. I haven't read any NU52 and newer material for Batman, but I guess that story doesn't involve lots of cars and a city under siege.
13. Don't Overdo it With Car Chase Sections. As much as I enjoyed those in Arkham Knight, the previous batmobile model wouldn't fit
14. The Necessary Order to Perform Dark Knight Quests Should Be Dropped. Some people might love it, but it's too tedious to perform multiple tasks for them not to count just cause you performed them in the wrong order, as opposed to how it was designated to be performed.
15. Some of the Familiar Villains Should Be Ignored in Favor of Other Villains. Much like Joker, characters like Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Victor Zsasz, and Mad Hatter should be sitting on the bench. Penguin has his role as a noble wannabe so he can stay, but his involvement shouldn't be big.
16. Don't Make Riddler's Dialogue Overly Smug with Limited Entertainment. I'm aware that the most overused character trophy should probably go to the Riddler, even more than the Joker, but at least his riddles and trophies give exposure to the more expansive mythos of Batman and I really appreciate them being present. Just don't overdo it with them. I want to be entertained by his words like I am in Arkham Origins and Arkham Knight.

What did I miss? Any other wish you guys wish to add? More about fixing issues with Origins than changing the status quo of Arkham games as a whole.

 

[TheVileOne]

A lot of those glitches happen because of release dates and lack of time to polish and test game before launch.

 

[Mani-Man]

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I agree with most of it...6 i dont really care but if we really go Court of Owls then yeah...it needs to be over several nights and really tire out Bruce till they attack him at wayne manor.

10...eh i liked the Origins multiplayer to be honest.
Wasnt groundbreaking but i liked it for the idea.

8. ABSOLUTLY
I love the joker but putting him into origins was a mistake and hurt the otherwise great story.

1.I dont know, if we go Court of Owls then i would love to have a more Greg Capullo like art style...maybe hire him to do the artwork and design.
He is my favorite artist and i love his artstyle and the way he draws Batman, Bruce, Alfred, the Joker, the Talons and so on.

2019 will be interesting, it should be the year where rocksteady or WBM announce their game...its about time if you ask me.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

A lot of those glitches happen because of release dates and lack of time to polish and test game before launch.

10...eh i liked the Origins multiplayer to be honest.
Wasnt groundbreaking but i liked it for the idea.

I think I read somewhere years ago that the inclusion of that kind of affected the performance, so it influenced my list. If they can polish it, I'll openly accept it.

2019 will be interesting, it should be the year where rocksteady or WBM announce their game...its about time if you ask me.

I'm hoping for great announcements.

 

[Mani-Man]

I think I read somewhere years ago that the inclusion of that kind of affected the performance, so it influenced my list. If they can polish it, I'll openly accept it.

Well the servers at least were not ready for the game, i dont even remember if they ever worked "okay".
I remember trying it for 2-3 hours to get into a session but the servers never really worked well enough.
If you could play then the game mostly worked fine as far as i remember as long as the servers worked.

If they can get it to run solid then yeah, im all in for it...but if not then they should completely focus mainly on the single player.
Multiplayer should only be a Bonus and never the main focus, despite how awesome it would be to run around with the whole batfamily online.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I didn't like how the Multiplayer Mode in AO randomly introduced a teenage Robin.

 

[Nathan]

I wouldn't mind if they'd add multiplayer to the main game. Optional co-op that let's the 2nd player join you as Robin or Batgirl.

 

[_Superman_]

I still want to be able to play this game on the PS4

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I didn't like how the Multiplayer Mode in AO randomly introduced a teenage Robin.

That felt really off when I heard about it.

I wouldn't mind if they'd add multiplayer to the main game. Optional co-op that let's the 2nd player join you as Robin or Batgirl.

If they can offer it as a combination of how you can switch between characters in Arkham Knight, and add the retro Sonic the Hedgehog style of making it possible to control the second character with player 2's controller it could be interesting.

 

[jolldan]

Say what you want about this game (and I know it had faults) but the introduction of the Joker was god damn flawless imo.

 

[Mani-Man]

Say what you want about this game (and I know it had faults) but the introduction of the Joker was god damn flawless imo.

Yeah.
If this would be the first or second game then the jokers role in Origins would have been perfect.
I honestly love the Origins Joker the most from all the Arkham games...but by the time Origins came, fans were tired of Joker taking over the plot.
A lot of people were upset that Strange was just a puppet and that Joker took on the major role in City, so Origins doing the same didnt fit well.

But I loved this Joker so much.

 

[NHawk19]

2 Things. Watching the blu-ray of Batman:TAS I can't believe how much the backgrounds of that show carried over to all of these games. These games are a love fest to that show.

Second thing I sort of wish they'd do a Beyond game set in this universe. There's so much they could draw on.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Firefly killed me in 'I Am the Night'. I will have to wait a few minutes before the save file I copied becomes usable.

 

[Mani-Man]

First of all, im sorry that i might have hyped you too much.
I assume some of you see that there is a new post here and get excited that maybe a new game is annouced or leaked or so...sorry about that.

But thats what i want to talk about.
GDC is on the 19th i think and the next gameinformer cover isnt far away too.
Which doesnt say much but i sadly have to say that a lot of people have made me hyped and excited thinking that the next game of WBM will be revealed this month.
I cant help it but after all those tiny little teasers of the developers, im getting hyped as hell.

You have a developer wearing a shirt that looks a lot like the court of owls logo, they wore court of owls masks at a halloween party or so, most recently i heard that someone who worked at WBM(game director?)retweeted something with an owl and tagged Capullo and Snyer who worked on court of owls.

The people from WBM said that they wont show anything at the GDC but i cant help but be excited.
Also the "leak" who speaks about the the March reveal of the batman game by gameinformer doesnt help at all.