Batman Begins Batman Begins vs Batman: The Animated Series

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Nevermind that Begins's two villians have their origins changed aswell. I don't follow the comics, but I know Jonathan Crane wasn't a psychiatrist in a business suit and a potato sack. And I also know that Ra's wasn't some vigilante who trained Bruce to become Batman.

Well.....Crane was a psychiatrist, with a potato sack.

And Ra's is a sort of extremist vigilante.

So....pretty close, I think.

Who didn't love Scarecrow's potato sack lmao. Ok, I'll be the first to admit it. Scarecrow was kinda lame in Begins, he was a pathetic low henchman who was in the movie for about 15 minutes if you count all his screentime and put it together.

Actually, the Scarecrow was at his coolest in BEGINS. Everywhere else, dude is LAME. Pretty incredible that BEGINS was able to make him actually cool.

Are you forgetting about the comics?

For a long time, the comics didn't even know how to get Batman right.

Right now, though.....with the whole Aftermath of the Crisis, it seems like it's back on track.

 

[El Payaso]

Actually, the Scarecrow was at his coolest in BEGINS. Everywhere else, dude is LAME. Pretty incredible that BEGINS was able to make him actually cool.

Yes. It takes a lot of effort to change him from a dangerous fighter creepy guy to some ambiguous dude that can be beaten by a girl.

 

[trustyside-kick]

lol.

 

[TheFalcon]

I prefer Begins.

 

[Beelze]

They both have many positive points, and they both have some negative ones. IMO, B:TAS has more negative points, but it was a series handled by many different people, so that is understandable. B:TAS allows us a taste of the most important villains, and Begins, being only one movie, couldn't really do that in its running time. They both got the essence of Batman right, and it's very hard to choose. I'm currently in love with Begins, but that hasn't made me forget about B:TAS.

 

[TheGrayGhost]

Are you kidding me? This is an easy one...

Batman Begins.

Either way you cut it, B:TAS was a cartoon made for little kids. Batman Begins as a story, is one of the best all time Batman stories told through any medium. It's a better origin than the comic, Year One for christ sakes.

B:TAS is too corny at times for my tastes. And it deviates just as much from the comic book as BEGINS does. Both are completely faithful to the essence, but BEGINS is the more grown up and edgier version.

I disagree, but there really isn't much to argue about, is there? People have opinions and that's that.

But...

Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker, in my view, are both just as good as Begins. Perhaps even better.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I agree but the only things I don't like about MOTP is that it's alot of flashbacks.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yes. It takes a lot of effort to change him from a dangerous fighter creepy guy to some ambiguous dude that can be beaten by a girl.

Well.....that is sort of the whole point about the Scarecrow character. His ONLY weapon is the power of fear, once he loses that.....he can get his ass kicked by anyone, including a girl. So, that was pretty much right on with WHO the Scarecrow is, and just how much of an actual sissy he needs to be to rely on a fear gas.

I agree but the only things I don't like about MOTP is that it's alot of flashbacks.

I dunno, I actually thought those were the best part of MOTP. The flashbacks really made it all mesh, and was pretty cool.....I especially loved the flashback where he first dons the cape and cowl. Powerful scene, the tone, the music.....gave me chills.

I still prefer BEGINS though......in the end, I feel it was a better movie than MOTP, or ROTJ (although it was freakin' awesome as hell). The animated series as a whole.......tough call man. I gotta side with Begins, but they're both so great.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

BTAS owns BB.

 

[El Payaso]

Well.....that is sort of the whole point about the Scarecrow character. His ONLY weapon is the power of fear, once he loses that.....he can get his ass kicked by anyone, including a girl. So, that was pretty much right on with WHO the Scarecrow is, and just how much of an actual sissy he needs to be to rely on a fear gas.

I truly get your point but, sincerely and with all respect... how lame is that?

 

[The Caped Knight]

I love both.

But if I have to choose one it's without Question BTAS .

 

[Bat Attack]

Batman: The Animated Series all the friggin' way. I just love EVERYTHING about it.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

BTAS. Conroy's voice owns Bales'.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

Kevin Conroy is a Barry White as Batman rip off... hehe

 

[Sandman138]

Let's also remember that without BTAS we would have no Harly Quinne

 

[El Payaso]

Let's also remember that without BTAS we would have no Harly Quinne

And that is... like a bad thing?

 

[kooguy911]

BB hasnt been around as long as BTAS, and BTAS has seriously changed our lives for the better (not that BB hasnt, but not to the same degree)

I say BTAS

 

[Sandman138]

And that is... like a bad thing?

I regard her as a very decent addition to Batman's rogues.

 

[The Kid]

harley's a funny little crazy bich on the show.



I and the joker just like her for her body, really.

Also don't forget that without TAS, Mr. Freeze wouldn't be as cool as he is now. Cool, hehe.

 

[kenellard]

BTAS for sure, over ten years on, even the first episodes still hold up, the stories were rarely let down by kiddie-friendly writing and the animation was on the whole fantastic. that being said I don't think it's fair to say begins was that much more "grown up" than BTAS, BB was a summer blockbuster meant for kids too (it was only PG13)

 

[Whack Arnolds]

BEGINS is still 3x the better piece of Art, and it never has anything like "There is a Batman in my Basement". B:TAS, one of the most overrated pieces of Batman lore....EVER.

 

[The Kid]

hmm

that's just evil

 

[kenellard]

BEGINS is still 3x the better piece of Art, and it never has anything like "There is a Batman in my Basement". B:TAS, one of the most overrated pieces of Batman lore....EVER.

exactly 3x better? hold on, I'll get my scientific calculator....

 

[Whack Arnolds]

exactly 3x better? hold on, I'll get my scientific calculator....

To be honest, it was more like 2.8.

 

[kenellard]

To be honest, it was more like 2.8.

I keep getting a load of 8's on this thing, I think I forgot to carry the 2....