Batman Begins Batman Begins vs Batman: The Animated Series

[El Payaso]

There's no worse blind man than the one who refuses to see.

 

[Katsuro]

I'd say the only major difference between the two batmobiles is the front exhaust on the Burton car. Other than that, it's quite the same.

 

[TheGrayGhost]

Really? Even after I've laid it down for you? I'm not saying you to just look at the pictures and figure it out for yourselves. I actually highlighted the similiarities between the two designs. Perhaps you're not seeing it because the TAS Batmobile has a sleeker, more futuristic look while the Burtonmobile has more curves and comparitively appears a bit more dated.

I see similarities, but not enough to convince me that the DCAU Batmobile was directly inspired from the Burton one. And the similarities aren't that convincing, either; the low headlights and the rear rocket exhaust (where else is it supposed to go?) are common Batmobile conventions. I remember reading a Bruce Timm interview explaining that the design of his Batmobile was a compilation of various Batmobiles from the comics.

 

[Phaser]

I see similarities, but not enough to convince me that the DCAU Batmobile was directly inspired from the Burton one. And the similarities aren't that convincing, either; the low headlights and the rear rocket exhaust (where else is it supposed to go?) are common Batmobile conventions.

What about the placement and opening of the cockpit? The basic design in that both Batmobiles are long and snouty from the front and wider in the rear is not something I've seen in the comics prior to the Burton films. As for the low headlights, aside from the fact that the positioning of the lights of the TAS Batmobile is in the exact same position as the Burtonmobile, I'm having a hard time recalling any comics prior to the Burton films that had the same kind of lights.

I remember reading a Bruce Timm interview explaining that the design of his Batmobile was a compilation of various Batmobiles from the comics.

Even though there are notable differences between the two designs, there are enough obvious similiarities to acknowledge the fact that the Burtonmobiles were very much influential in shaping the basic look of the TAS Batmobile.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I actually thought the final version of the BTAS Batmobile, in the final season, looked alot like the Burtonmobile.

 

[Warhammer]

^That one was my favorite one.
Except it was much shorter.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yeah, it was much sleeker.....sharper looking too. It was smaller, which made more sense. Having such a long Batmobile just seems crazier because of the harder turns. Plus, it was all black too.

 

[El Payaso]

I remember reading a Bruce Timm interview explaining that the design of his Batmobile was a compilation of various Batmobiles from the comics.

Of course. People creating movies or Tv series always talk like they just created THE most original idea ever. But they don't.

 

[batmaluco]

Of course. People creating movies or Tv series always talk like they just created THE most original idea ever. But they don't.

From a Simpson's episode, people trying to create a new TV show, each one with his portable TV, then one said: "I'm having a brilliant idea, switch to channel 24..."

.........

 

[gamemiester]

BTAS by a long shot nobody will every come up with a better voice or look for Batman than in this cartoon.

 

[El Payaso]

Cripes. They're the same effing car. Except maybe fior that thing on the front.

Now, somebody claim that this animated penguin wasn't influenced by Burton and make my day.

 

[Sandman138]

I'd say the only major difference between the two batmobiles is the front exhaust on the Burton car. Other than that, it's quite the same.

Well, they are the same basic design, but one favors a more rigid Deco style while the other is more fluid. I think there is a strong enough difference in execution of the foundational design to asses them seperatly. However, anybody who doesn't think that the series wasn't influenced by the Burton films is kidding themselves, but this is not the bad thing that people are making it out to be and it certianly doesn't mean that Begins was somehow more faithful to the comics than the series.

 

[bdsproductions]

Are you kidding me? This is an easy one...

Batman Begins.

Either way you cut it, B:TAS was a cartoon made for little kids. Batman Begins as a story, is one of the best all time Batman stories told through any medium. It's a better origin than the comic, Year One for christ sakes.

B:TAS is too corny at times for my tastes. And it deviates just as much from the comic book as BEGINS does. Both are completely faithful to the essence, but BEGINS is the more grown up and edgier version.

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i don't think shows intended for little children have actual guns,violence,fairly accurate depictions of multiple personality disorder,the word tramp,and i do believe prostititues and blood.
oh and BB by the way,by far but TAS is second best.

 

[spideyrunner]

Batman Begins. I dont watch superhero cartoons at all.

 

[Daredevil_2003]

I dont like to compare the 2, BTAS is more of the classic fantasy Batman and is amazing, Batman Begins is more the Frank Miller, gritty Batman, and is still awesome just in a different way. It's 2 different interpretations.
It's not like Superman where everything is pretty much the same. And that's very cool b/c there's 2 different versions (3 if you count the camp one but I dont like that) that I can watch/read depending on my mood.

 

[CConn]

Of all the people who said they couldn't decided, only one followed my clearly defined rule of simply posting the flag of Switzerland. Unfortunately, I don't remember his/her name. But I do remember the flag was animated, and that was brilliant. So in closing, you all suck except for the guy/girl whose name I don't remember who's awesome.

 

[blind_fury]

Batman Begins. I dont watch superhero cartoons at all.

The is the only rational reason to pick BB over BTAS.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

The is the only rational reason to pick BB over BTAS.

Haha, wow.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

lol......well, it's pretty funny.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

I'm laughing cause you'd have to be a complete ****** to pick a kid's cartoon, that is a G rated version of Batman, over the REAL DEAL.

 

[blind_fury]

 

[CConn]

I'm laughing cause you'd have to be a complete ****** to pick a kid's cartoon, that is a G rated version of Batman, over the REAL DEAL.

Return of the Joker is rated PG-13, that must be as good as BB. [/sarcasmy]

Yeah, BB is more serious, more adult - which is excellent, I wouldn't want a Batman film to be any different. But, Batman isn't, hasn't, and doesn't have to be uber-adult to be an effective or extremely enjoyable interpretation of the character. Batman's always been about adventure and mystery, and those things aren't exclusive to PG-13 or R-Rated works.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

Return of the Joker is rated PG-13, that must be as good as BB. [/sarcasmy]

Yeah, BB is more serious, more adult - which is excellent, I wouldn't want a Batman film to be any different. But, Batman isn't, hasn't, and doesn't have to be uber-adult to be an effective or extremely enjoyable interpretation of the character. Batman's always been about adventure and mystery, and those things aren't exclusive to PG-13 or R-Rated works.

I never said it had to be "uber-adult". B:TAS is enjoyable yes, but as a piece of art and as a serious story, I don't think it even compares. Maybe "adult" was the wrong word, B:TAS seems more 'watered down', then the 100% concentrated bad ass that is Batman Begins, or a Batman 1989 and Batman Returns.

Yes Batman has always been about adventure and mystery, and yes the character isn't exclusive to adults, but B:TAS is so extremely over-hyped by fans its ridiculous. Mainly just because you grew up with it infront of your eyes. It dabbles to much in adventure, and not enough in dark, gritty, and mysterious elements of the character.

 

[Qoèlet]

Now, somebody claim that this animated penguin wasn't influenced by Burton and make my day.

The appearance was certainly influenced heavily by the film... heck, he even had the giant rubber ducky, but the character himself is a whole different animal: cultured and eloquent as opposed to savage and crude.

I wouldn't say that Conroy was necessarily drawing on Keaton for inspiration, though. While it's true that their "Batman" voices were similar... well how the hell else is someone supposed to do the voice of Batman? It's just the only way to do it: it's completely intuitive to do the deep, somewhat raspy voice.. heck, it's even been described as such in comics, with no association reference film or television. That being said, Keaton used the voice as more of a fake, threatening voice that Bruce Wayne put on, whereas when Conroy was using it it came off as natural, not a performance. It was just the real voice, whereas he altered it significantly to put on the "Bruce Wayne" act.

 

[El Payaso]

The appearance was certainly influenced heavily by the film... heck, he even had the giant rubber ducky, but the character himself is a whole different animal: cultured and eloquent as opposed to savage and crude.

So... it was influenced by Burton.

You didn't make my day. :P

I wouldn't say that Conroy was necessarily drawing on Keaton for inspiration, though. While it's true that their "Batman" voices were similar... well how the hell else is someone supposed to do the voice of Batman? It's just the only way to do it: it's completely intuitive to do the deep, somewhat raspy voice.. heck, it's even been described as such in comics, with no association reference film or television.

You have to watch the '42, '48 and '66 versions and the 60's cartoons also and you'll find other ways to do it.

There's not THE way.

It seems there's one way after someone makes it so damn good it seems like any other choice would be wrong.

Any actor with creativity can tell you there's no one way to do things.