The Dark Knight Rises Batman: To "Die".. or Not To "Die:?

[KalMart]

I'm 100% against Batman dying, it just isn't necessary.

Neither is his living.

 

[jm9843]

Batman/Bruce Wayne will not die in TDKR. It's a bit of reasoning, a bit of gut feeling, but mostly having an intrinsic understanding of Nolan's intent for the character. The later coming by way of knowing the first two films and understanding their context relative to the larger Batman mythos. Chris has talked about this.

 

[byte19]

Guys, one of you create a "Should Bamtan die in TDKR?" thread as this is getting tedious and has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

The Boss is Back! Quick! Hide!!!

 

[redhawk23]

Neither is his living.

Wayne's parents, lived a symbol of hope, death was a catalyst for change.

Ultimately changed very little.

Harvey Dent, in life was a symbol of hope, Batman's lie maintained this even in his death.

From what we can tell, very little actual good comes from this.

Why would Batman's death be any different? Why would one more dead symbol, one more martyr be any different? His survival, his quest to bring about good, the battle he fights, that is what is necessary. Thats what makes him Batman.

Anyways, like Hunter said, how about that teaser, eh? I haven't watched it yet. I'm holding out for the HP midnight show tonight.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

In theory, Batman/Bruce Wayne dying is a possible outcome. He was pushed to the limits (his limits) in TDK when he faced off against the Joker. In TDKR, Batman is facing an enemy that appears nearly indestructable, and just as cunning as himself. Bane is going to decimate everything around him, and take Batman to the deepest darkest pit known to man.

Now, will he die? Probably not, but it's a reality we could face at the end of the trilogy.

Consider this as well: Assuming if Nolan is using aspects of TDKR novel, then 'death' is an option for Batman.

 

[The_Raganork]

Wayne's parents, lived a symbol of hope, death was a catalyst for change.

Ultimately changed very little.

Harvey Dent, in life was a symbol of hope, Batman's lie maintained this even in his death.

From what we can tell, very little actual good comes from this.

Why would Batman's death be any different? Why would one more dead symbol, one more martyr be any different? His survival, his quest to bring about good, the battle he fights, that is what is necessary. Thats what makes him Batman.

Anyways, like Hunter said, how about that teaser, eh? I haven't watched it yet. I'm holding out for the HP midnight show tonight.

Did you read my post? I answered all of these questions...

 

[byte19]

Okay... bring it....

 

[coderaven24]

If you want a true conclusion with lots of emotional scenes and a way to fully end Batman.

Bruce Wayne does not die, he stands trial for being Batman and you get a scene similar to Spiderman two when the crowd helped him on the train.

You get a meeting in Jail between him and Gordon.

 

[byte19]

okay Per The Boss: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=20876677#post20876677
Go... NOW!

 

[Jedm1991]

Die

 

[redhawk23]

Good for you. I just don't buy it.

 

[Mako]

I don't want him to bite the dust but if it works within the context of the film and elevates the story then I'm all for it.

 

[KalMart]

Die, but secretly live and train a new League Of Shadows.

 

[The_Raganork]

if the story is completed It doesn't make a difference:

I get what you're saying but, I have to offer this:

Batman dying CANNOT be the thing that makes him a legend. He's a murderer right now, if he dies why in God's name would any body care?

Inherently people have to FEAR Batman, you can't look at something you fear and be inspired at the same time.

Well you can but, not effectively (i.e. Citizens for Batman) what Gotham needs is someone who can inspire them to understand and accept Batman.

When crime took over Gotham and it was in it's darkest hour, it could have collapsed upon itself but, it didn't.

when Thomas died people could have given up hope...but, they didn't.

Why? Because they had something to BELIEVE in, Thomas gave the people inspiration, hope something they could latch on to in times of despair. They didn't fear him.

Same with Harvey. Gotham was ready to rip Batman apart but, they didn't, why? Because Harvey gave them HOPE to believe in the spirit of Gotham, that Joker was the enemy not Batman...that even though they couldn't trust Batman they knew he was there for an ultimate good.

You can't wear a mask and hold the people that's what these movies have shown.

If people are to survive Bane and keep faith they need someone they can look to and trust, someone who will tell them that despite the destruction, there is something there to hope for and to not lose that.

that can't be a man they fear and possibly committed murder...it has to be someone like that.

And who better to do that than the Son of the man who showed them that before?

Bruce Wayne, his parents ripped from him...his best friend (Rachel) ripped from him and yet he stands up and says: "Believe" and the people will listen to him, the people will look to Bruce for Hope and Batman for Protection.

Then if either one dies, they live as a force in each and every Gothamites mind.

 

[Grommers]

He'll live..


as far as I'm concerned his journey has just begun.

 

[Nevincer]

To Die.

 

[The Joker]

Bane has a better chance of being a cross dressing transvestite than Batman does of dying.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I don't want him to bite the dust but if it works within the context of the film and elevates the story then I'm all for it.

Same here. Either way, I think Nolan will give us a compelling end for his version of the character. Nolan is a master at great endings. My only question is whether the rest of the movie will be good enough for us to care by the time that end happens. I sure hope so.

 

[Steyin]

Johnny 5 ALIVE! Er, I mean Bats should stay alive.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I personally think it would be premature and a poor storytelling choice to have Batman die in the third movie.

Just look at the stories Chris Nolan has been telling about Batman the past two films. The first was the very beginning of Batman, so much so that "Batman" isn't actually created until halfway through the film. TDK was Batman learning the ropes, and finally getting an inkling that he might be doing this forever.

But despite that, Batman is still learning. Even after TDK! He's just wrapped his head around the fact that there are villains that will come at him that aren't normal criminals, that he can't understand. This isn't a seasoned Batman yet. We're still in his early years. We're still essentially in an origin story. Killing off Batman when he's still learning just doesn't make sense with the stories Nolan has been telling.

His Batman is still very much the "Year One/Long Halloween" Batman. The crimefighter that's still learning, still coming into his own. Why would you kill him off before he can become fully established as the hero we know he will become?

I just don't think it would be a good idea.

 

[ih8nyy]

Bane has a better chance of being a cross dressing transvestite than Batman does of dying.

You should have wrapped spoiler tags around that.


He'll live.

 

[byte19]

Johnny 5 ALIVE! Er, I mean Bats should stay alive.

 

[Mako]

He'll live..


as far as I'm concerned his journey has just begun.

That how I've always looked at Nolan's Bat-Films but again if it works I'm not against it . Then again Batman can never die, Bruce on the other hand....

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Without getting supernatural or sci-fi, Bruce Wayne has to die at some point. Whether it's in the movie or not, it doesn't bother me. Batman the symbol can live on with new people taking up the role...like those posers in The Dark Knight who really sucked at it.

 

[TheFuture]

As I said last night, it's all about context really. From what we're hearing, Bane sounds like he is going to be very hard to beat, so Batman may have to do a monumental kamikaze mission to take him down.

It could really be an epic scene given Nolan's vision, Zimmer's sound, and Bale's/Hardy's acting ability.