True, but neither does in mean the story must end with the death of the hero... and lets face it that the 'hero lives' is far more often the case. But I digress, the original post to which I responded presented the argument in absolute terms, i.e., if you can't expect it in life, don't expect it in movies, which, of course, is nonsense. Not all movies are or need be escapist entertainmenttake Revolutionary Road for example, a very very good movie but depressing as all hell and it took me days to get out of a funk after having watched it. There is and should be a place for this sort of cinema (I couldn't be bothered with film if there wasn't) but it's complete bollocks to say we shouldn't expect things in movies because that's not what we can expect in life.
That is true to a point. But do know that Nolan is still an independent film maker at heart. I mean it's odd to have the love interest blown to bits, and the hero to be on the run and lost the battle at the end(TDK). Nolan does not do the typical.
But next year we shall see.
The idea of Batman "dying" makes no logical thematic sense.
Nolan's trilogy, the entire trilogy, is Batman beginning, not just the first film, every film. He's not really the full Batman we all know and love, he's still developing. We're seeing him honing his skills, facing his first major tough decisions and watching his rogues gallery slowly building.
For Kane's sake, he just now has gotten an actual Batcave (I would think).
It makes no sense in any way, shape, or form for him to die just as he is actually becoming the fully fledged Caped Crusader. It would be like Luke Skywalker getting killed in Jabba's Palace or if Micheal Corleone died in the bathroom of the restaurant.
Eh those comparisons at the end really don't work. Luke really did not become the full Jedi until after he threw down his saber towards the Emperor.
I can see the concern, but it very well can make thematically sense. All the sense your saying it does not make is the fact that "he has not been the true Batman long enough".
I can see the point, but he will be come it, how long he is it does not matter, what matters is again the legacy the symbol carries, that is what Ra's talked about with him in the first place, you become more then just a man, a symbol something eternal. Thematically it would be a tragic hero story, which is what Batman is, I really recommend for people to read or listen to some tapes by Joseph Campbell, if there is anyone that knows what the hero is, its him. (Which is what Lucas took all his inspiration from for Star Wars).
It can be done thematically. Because one thing we do have to understand is comics are released every month for little money. Films take 3-4 years to make with lots of money backing. With a comic in a year we can have an entire story arch told to us and feel satisfied, with film you have to have a closing or people will not feel satisfied and feel that the story is just dragging on and on.
By the time its released it will have been 9 years it took them to make a trilogy, and over 7 years to learn the entire arch. So we can't have the hero go on and on and on. We have to have closure and a thematic arch for the character.
Now whether that ends in death or not, we may find out in the next year or until we see the film itself.
