BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 1

[Arach Knight]

Seriously??? 280 Dom stay in the marvel thread because this one isn't for you
That's less than mos tell me how are you even being fair to this FLIM

Whomp, whomp. Just because my screen name is based on a Marvel character doesn't mean I have to limit myself to Marvel threads. For starters, I prefer DC to Marvel. It just so happens that Spider-Man remains my favorite character overall. But if it helps you feel better in your small world where people can only enjoy non-competing fandoms, or one side of a competing fandom, I just attended yesterday's DC Superhero World Record Event. Would you like other forms of credentials to validate my right to comment on a topic??

Two, It is a prediction thread, not an analysis thread. The purpose here is to have fun making a guess at where this film will top out. I don't have a stake either way in determining how successful this film will be. I shot out some numbers. But lets suppose for a moment that I did analyze the matter to further justify my prediction. For starters, reactions to the trailer have been mixed. Some people are deriding the trailer as boring because it released right after the Star Wars trailer. I for one find this irrelevant, but apparently people online share your type of thinking and don't know how to enjoy more than one thing at a time (I am stoked for both Star Wars and Batman v Superman).

Then there is the fact that a significant number of people on articles and Youtube have commented on how they don't understand why Batman and Superman would ever fight each other because they are friends. That sort of confusion could hurt the box office take. Now, I am not saying that any of that information influenced my prediction, because at the time that I gave my prediction, I had not yet read articles or watched trailer reactions or trailer reviews. I am simply suggesting that audience reaction at the moment is lukewarm and we will have to wait to see how things change. In the mean time, I gave my prediction. If you don't agree, then that is FANTASTIC. But get off my back and maybe go make your own prediction instead of being a jerk.

By the by, sequels are entirely capable of making less than their predecessor. The domestic take for The Amazing Spider-Man was $262 million. The domestic take for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was $202 million. However, strong overseas performance led the film to only make $50 million less than its predecessor, even though it made $60 million less domestically. Unless you or I are analytics specialists, we don't have sufficient data to truly say how things will swing either way. Some sequels do far better, some sequels do far worse. We don' know the pattern here.

 

[Marvin]

Confusion about why super hero pals would fight(prior to seeing a movie) might keep people away though? I think this is an example of the dc preconceptions and double standards leading to an over analysis.
Ask yourself if the science bros or any of the other avengers constantly fighting in their marketing has the effect of either driving up or down theater attendance.

Selling obi wan and anakin fighting is the epitome of this effect on box office. Intrigue if anything would lead to interest and relevance. Especially for anyone with stake enough to "know that these characters supposedly never fight".
Point being, like many things dcu, this is yet another thing present in other cbms and such that is being sold as a hurting point by some of us fans. I find myself wondering how the civil war stuff will be received given his present issue, I assume it will be received in the more obvious way.

 

[Arach Knight]

Confusion about why super hero pals would fight(prior to seeing a movie) might keep people away though? I think this is an example of the dc preconceptions and double standards leading to an over analysis.
Ask yourself if the science bros or any of the other avengers constantly fighting in their marketing has the effect of either driving up or down theater attendance.

Selling obi wan and anakin fighting is the epitome of this effect on box office. Intrigue if anything would lead to interest and relevance. Especially for anyone with stake enough to "know that these characters supposedly never fight".
Point being, like many things dcu, this is yet another thing present in other cbms and such that is being sold as a hurting point by some of us fans. I find myself wondering how the civil war stuff will be received given his present issue, I assume it will be received in the more obvious way.

On one hand, you are correct. People do have a number of preconceptions about DC. A few days ago I called out people on the Daredevil Netflix series. I find it ridiculous that people lament how serious and dark in tone most DC movies are, yet Daredevil is praised for employing the same tone. And yes, people were excited to see the Avengers fight one another, but people are currently moaning about how silly it is for Batman and Superman to fight. I even got a text from a dear friend where he texted me just to complain about Batman fighting Superman. I admit that there is a bias toward Marvel and against DC.

I have seen a number of people here on SHH complain about DC's approach (team-up first, then solo movies). I had remarked that if DC's films were to take the same approach as Marvel, that it would lead to people calling them copycats. If DC does its own thing, people complain that they aren't doing it the Marvel way because the Marvel way is "better." Honestly, I find it hilarious, because DC has been putting out comicbook movies for far longer, has had multiple success, and has managed to branch out beyond superheroes (e.g. Constantine, The Losers, Red, A History of Violence).

However, I must point out that the Anakin/Obi-Wan comparison is a false equivalence. Since the Star Wars films are released out of order, purposefully, everyone already knew that Anakin and Obi-Wan would go from friends to enemies. It is explained in the very first (1977) Star Wars film. So audience expectation for that fight is radically different and for very different reasons.

Oh, and yes, audience confusion could easily muddy the box office take for this film. You want to know how? Just look at reactions to The Man of Steel. Most complaints about that movie are grossly inaccurate. People said that Superman never kills, yet Superman II, one of the most beloved Superman movies and superhero films in general, shows Superman killing Zod, without mercy. The irony is, in Superman II, Zod had no powers and was no longer a threat, yet Superman killed him anyway. In Man of Steel, Zod would have been an unrelenting foe, for which no prison could hold. It was either kill him or allow mankind to be wiped out. However, people still complained about the neck snapping.

Then you have the destruction of Metropolis. Even though it was limited only to a ten block radius near the world engine, most people will tell you that Superman let all of Metropolis get leveled. Even without consideration for the comparably limited radius of damage, when one offers the rebuttal that MAn of Steel depicted realistic destruction on a scale appropriate for superhuman conflict, complainers default to pointing to The Avengers, which I feel was unrealistic, because that film featured a mass invasion from thousands of aliens, yet comparably, the damage was limited. Everything felt safe. I don't want to rehash my points, because I believe you also post in the "Rate the MOS" thread, but yeah...people are hypocrites for Marvel, and there is a reason why Marvel fans are called Marvel Zombies.

 

[Juha Bach]

The GA and the voices on the internet have a different definition of the terms 'good' and 'well liked'.

That hang over movie isn't what I assume people are defining a 'good movie' with good story and substance and all that important stuff. The GA actually feel differently for they pay for enjoyment.
The MOS numbers, especially domestically argue something very clear about the GA's feeling on it.

When it comes to MOS many in this forum chose to ignore this notion. After all, people here are convinced that rotten tomatoes and metacritic speak for the GA.

 

[Marvin]

@Arach

When I commented on audience confusion, I was talking about leading into a movie. Antip and things like that. Right this very moment (avg)people are confused as all hell about what's going on in that new star wars footage...but this leads to intrigue not detraction. People simply not knowing what leads up to a climax before they see a movie doesn't hurt it. "Why are hulk and stark fighting? Let's go find out because right now I not only have no idea but I'm pretty confused! Don't worry friend, maybe we should watch the movie and find out because you are obviously interested enough to care. Unlike say the way you don't care about jon carter."
That's what I meant.

As for people being confused about mos, the movie gross a crap ton of money domestically and WW(in it's own right), way more than last time and more than most successful cbms to date. It would have made more had it not been for a few extenuating circumstances. It also not only green lit a sequel but an entire universe apparently. Superman Returns is a keen example of the opposite and something hard to defend in this way. I'd argue that whatever debates are had about mos, are little more. I experienced the same thing with Transformers 1 and even the furious movies, and their success is clear and present.

As for my ani/obi comparison. It wasn't supposed to be a direct comparison in that way. I merely suggested that seeing friends fight is a draw, plain and simple. As for the lead in and why people weren't confused about that one(going in), sure. But I'm again talking about the simple draw of icons or friends fighting. Just look at what that did for the CW's ratings with their super hero show. The simple draw of it is what I'm talking about.

As for the double standard, it is what it is. I don't blame some marvel fans though, they got it pretty bad from the nolanites during that last era. People will do what they do.

 

[Greeneyes]

Whomp, whomp. Just because my screen name is based on a Marvel character doesn't mean I have to limit myself to Marvel threads. For starters, I prefer DC to Marvel. It just so happens that Spider-Man remains my favorite character overall. But if it helps you feel better in your small world where people can only enjoy non-competing fandoms, or one side of a competing fandom, I just attended yesterday's DC Superhero World Record Event. Would you like other forms of credentials to validate my right to comment on a topic??

Two, It is a prediction thread, not an analysis thread. The purpose here is to have fun making a guess at where this film will top out. I don't have a stake either way in determining how successful this film will be. I shot out some numbers. But lets suppose for a moment that I did analyze the matter to further justify my prediction. For starters, reactions to the trailer have been mixed. Some people are deriding the trailer as boring because it released right after the Star Wars trailer. I for one find this irrelevant, but apparently people online share your type of thinking and don't know how to enjoy more than one thing at a time (I am stoked for both Star Wars and Batman v Superman).

Then there is the fact that a significant number of people on articles and Youtube have commented on how they don't understand why Batman and Superman would ever fight each other because they are friends. That sort of confusion could hurt the box office take. Now, I am not saying that any of that information influenced my prediction, because at the time that I gave my prediction, I had not yet read articles or watched trailer reactions or trailer reviews. I am simply suggesting that audience reaction at the moment is lukewarm and we will have to wait to see how things change. In the mean time, I gave my prediction. If you don't agree, then that is FANTASTIC. But get off my back and maybe go make your own prediction instead of being a jerk.

By the by, sequels are entirely capable of making less than their predecessor. The domestic take for The Amazing Spider-Man was $262 million. The domestic take for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was $202 million. However, strong overseas performance led the film to only make $50 million less than its predecessor, even though it made $60 million less domestically. Unless you or I are analytics specialists, we don't have sufficient data to truly say how things will swing either way. Some sequels do far better, some sequels do far worse. We don' know the pattern here.

Have to disagree with you on the bolded parts Arach, you make it sound like everyone who has watched the teaser has had a lukewarm reaction or are bored by it.

The people on youtube who don't read comics or didn't know Batman and Superman ever fight of course will question why, but that's the whole point of a film isn't it, that you actually have to watch it to find out what it's all about. Or should we explain and give away the plot/story to everyone on youtube so they don't have to ever use their brains the poor confused little darlings

The 'confusion' as you put it will not hurt anything. Please remember that this was the first teaser trailer. The first. By the time all the trailers have been released I'm sure the general public will be fully up to speed or as informed as they need to be. And I don't think you need to be an analytics expert to see that this film will be much bigger than MOS, I mean come on...It's about as nailed on as you can get.

 

[Greeneyes]

When it comes to MOS many in this forum chose to ignore this notion. After all, people here are convinced that rotten tomatoes and metacritic speak for the GA.

Exactly.

 

[Greeneyes]

On one hand, you are correct. People do have a number of preconceptions about DC. A few days ago I called out people on the Daredevil Netflix series. I find it ridiculous that people lament how serious and dark in tone most DC movies are, yet Daredevil is praised for employing the same tone. And yes, people were excited to see the Avengers fight one another, but people are currently moaning about how silly it is for Batman and Superman to fight. I even got a text from a dear friend where he texted me just to complain about Batman fighting Superman. I admit that there is a bias toward Marvel and against DC.

I have seen a number of people here on SHH complain about DC's approach (team-up first, then solo movies). I had remarked that if DC's films were to take the same approach as Marvel, that it would lead to people calling them copycats. If DC does its own thing, people complain that they aren't doing it the Marvel way because the Marvel way is "better." Honestly, I find it hilarious, because DC has been putting out comicbook movies for far longer, has had multiple success, and has managed to branch out beyond superheroes (e.g. Constantine, The Losers, Red, A History of Violence).

However, I must point out that the Anakin/Obi-Wan comparison is a false equivalence. Since the Star Wars films are released out of order, purposefully, everyone already knew that Anakin and Obi-Wan would go from friends to enemies. It is explained in the very first (1977) Star Wars film. So audience expectation for that fight is radically different and for very different reasons.

Oh, and yes, audience confusion could easily muddy the box office take for this film. You want to know how? Just look at reactions to The Man of Steel. Most complaints about that movie are grossly inaccurate. People said that Superman never kills, yet Superman II, one of the most beloved Superman movies and superhero films in general, shows Superman killing Zod, without mercy. The irony is, in Superman II, Zod had no powers and was no longer a threat, yet Superman killed him anyway. In Man of Steel, Zod would have been an unrelenting foe, for which no prison could hold. It was either kill him or allow mankind to be wiped out. However, people still complained about the neck snapping.

Then you have the destruction of Metropolis. Even though it was limited only to a ten block radius near the world engine, most people will tell you that Superman let all of Metropolis get leveled. Even without consideration for the comparably limited radius of damage, when one offers the rebuttal that MAn of Steel depicted realistic destruction on a scale appropriate for superhuman conflict, complainers default to pointing to The Avengers, which I feel was unrealistic, because that film featured a mass invasion from thousands of aliens, yet comparably, the damage was limited. Everything felt safe. I don't want to rehash my points, because I believe you also post in the "Rate the MOS" thread, but yeah...people are hypocrites for Marvel, and there is a reason why Marvel fans are called Marvel Zombies.

But I do agree with this lol. Good post

 

[Arach Knight]

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[Arach Knight]

Have to disagree with you on the bolded parts Arach, you make it sound like everyone who has watched the teaser has had a lukewarm reaction or are bored by it.

The people on youtube who don't read comics or didn't know Batman and Superman ever fight of course will question why, but that's the whole point of a film isn't it, that you actually have to watch it to find out what it's all about. Or should we explain and give away the plot/story to everyone on youtube so they don't have to ever use their brains the poor confused little darlings

The 'confusion' as you put it will not hurt anything. Please remember that this was the first teaser trailer. The first. By the time all the trailers have been released I'm sure the general public will be fully up to speed or as informed as they need to be. And I don't think you need to be an analytics expert to see that this film will be much bigger than MOS, I mean come on...It's about as nailed on as you can get.

On a good month, the best selling comics hit an average circulation of about 170,000 copies, where as hundreds of millions of people watch superhero movies. The significance? Comicbook movies are successful because of the general audience, not because of comicbook fans. To that end, whether or not people complaining on Youtube are comicbook readers is an irrelevant factor.

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/off-my-mind-why-superhero-movies-dont-sell-comics/1100-143238/

There is an article for you if you wish to probe more deeply into the matter.

Furthermore, not once did I insinuate, allude to or explicitly state that "everyone" had a lukewarm reaction. If that was your take away, then you have taken my comments grossly out of context. I said "significant number" and "some," neither of which can or should be misconstrued as "everyone."

I don't believe everyone hated the trailer. There are plenty of people that have been enthusiastic about the trailer. But is the negative reaction noticeable enough? Absolutely.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/4/17/8439181/batman-v-superman-trailer-leak

Go read that article, then go read the comments section, which shares much of the same vitriol for the trailer. You should then go watch the trailer on Youtube, preferably on multiple channels. Read the comments. I am not going to personally hand you ever instance I have encountered, but if you pay due diligence to the matter, you will see that my observations have not been pulled from the ether, or my rear end. There are a number of people that hate this trailer, and consequently (though illogically) the movie itself. and yes, it is for some of the reasons I offered earlier, including pointless comparisons to Star Wars, confusion about Batman fighting Superman and general fanboyism.

Now, I readily concede that at times the Internet may become an echo chamber which gives the idea that a problem is worse than it is. At times however, the Internet may also make things appear to be better than they are. Remember all of the online hype for Snakes on a Plane? The box office take for that film in no way matched the enthusiasm professed online. And even still, there are times where the Internet is a useful metric because it manages to accurately portray public sentiment. The viability of Internet opinions as a metric will vary by context, but it at least gives one a starting point for discussion, and at this time, I have ample evidence to prove my point.

As I said earlier, I have no gain or stake in the success or failure of this film. I am just a fellow comicbook fan attempting to have fun. I say attempt because this thread is no longer fun for me thanks to a number of people that are taking my prediction far too seriously.

 

[Greeneyes]

On a good month, the best selling comics hit an average circulation of about 170,000 copies, where as hundreds of millions of people watch superhero movies. The significance? Comicbook movies are successful because of the general audience, not because of comicbook fans. To that end, whether or not people complaining on Youtube are comicbook readers is an irrelevant factor.

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/off-my-mind-why-superhero-movies-dont-sell-comics/1100-143238/

There is an article for you if you wish to probe more deeply into the matter.

Furthermore, not once did I insinuate, allude to or explicitly state that "everyone" had a lukewarm reaction. If that was your take away, then you have taken my comments grossly out of context. I said "significant number" and "some," neither of which can or should be misconstrued as "everyone."

I don't believe everyone hated the trailer. There are plenty of people that have been enthusiastic about the trailer. But is the negative reaction noticeable enough? Absolutely.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/4/17/8439181/batman-v-superman-trailer-leak

Go read that article, then go read the comments section, which shares much of the same vitriol for the trailer. You should then go watch the trailer on Youtube, preferably on multiple channels. Read the comments. I am not going to personally hand you ever instance I have encountered, but if you pay due diligence to the matter, you will see that my observations have not been pulled from the ether, or my rear end. There are a number of people that hate this trailer, and consequently (though illogically) the movie itself. and yes, it is for some of the reasons I offered earlier, including pointless comparisons to Star Wars, confusion about Batman fighting Superman and general fanboyism.

Now, I readily concede that at times the Internet may become an echo chamber which gives the idea that a problem is worse than it is. At times however, the Internet may also make things appear to be better than they are. Remember all of the online hype for Snakes on a Plane? The box office take for that film in no way matched the enthusiasm professed online. And even still, there are times where the Internet is a useful metric because it manages to accurately portray public sentiment. The viability of Internet opinions as a metric will vary by context, but it at least gives one a starting point for discussion, and at this time, I have ample evidence to prove my point.

As I said earlier, I have no gain or stake in the success or failure of this film. I am just a fellow comicbook fan attempting to have fun. I say attempt because this thread is no longer fun for me thanks to a number of people that are taking my prediction far too seriously.

I think you should stay away from comments on the internet, especially youtube as they are rather mental.

I do get where you are coming from though but I just think you are being a little harsh and down on a first teaser trailer just because of some internet comments. Check the comments out when a full blown trailer drops nearer to release then get back to me.

Don't be so negative on it man, it's the first teaser...The first teaser!

Also I haven't mentioned or replied to you about your prediction on here and I've just said I like one of your last posts on this page. Maybe you are just feeling a bit got at and angry?

 

[Arach Knight]

I think you should stay away from comments on the internet, especially youtube as they are rather mental.

I do get where you are coming from though but I just think you are being a little harsh and down on a first teaser trailer just because of some internet comments. Check the comments out when a full blown trailer drops nearer to release then get back to me.

Don't be so negative on it man, it's the first teaser...The first teaser!

Also I haven't mentioned or replied to you about your prediction on here and I've just said I like one of your last posts on this page. Maybe you are just feeling a bit got at and angry?

Where do you see me giving MY opinion of the trailer? I gave statements from OTHER opinions of the trailer. I am not being harsh on the trailer, because I have not given my own view of the trailer. Are other people being harsh on the trailer? Perhaps, because there certainly is a vocal group of people, from Youtube and article commentors, to bloggers and media outlets such as Polygon. But none of those thoughts are immediately a reflection of my own position merely because I brought them up in conversation.

Do I disapprove of people jumping on my case because I gave a low estimate for the domestic box office? Absolutely, but am I angry? Hardly. I can't take this anymore seriously than those I have admonished for doing just that very thing. I very much strive to keep my online discussions courteous, my criticisms pointed and on-topic, and my position objective. The moment I start interjecting "feelings" and fanboyism is the moment I lose clarity on the matter.

As for my actual opinion of the trailer, since you have yet to ask me yet profess that I am being harsh about the trailer: I enjoyed it. I have tickets to the IMAX event for tomorrow at 7pm in Hollywood. I am a fan of The Dark Knight Returns and look forward to seeing this particular interpretation of that material, even though I have read the graphic novel and have the animated feature length film. I am stoked for Affleck's Batman, I appreciate the costumes and I very much enjoy the fact that this film will simultaneously address both the consequences of Superman's actions in the first Man of Steel movie as well as the public's general discourse on an alien being among them. It is realistic and very human. Furthermore it enforces what David Goyer said about his script for the first film, in which he felt that any Superman origin story would have to be written as a story of "first contact." So I love everything about the trailer and the direction for the film as we understand it thus far.

 

[Boy Scout]

I'll say...$845 million. Sounds like a reasonable number to me.

 

[dalonewolf]

Whomp, whomp. Just because my screen name is based on a Marvel character doesn't mean I have to limit myself to Marvel threads. For starters, I prefer DC to Marvel. It just so happens that Spider-Man remains my favorite character overall. But if it helps you feel better in your small world where people can only enjoy non-competing fandoms, or one side of a competing fandom, I just attended yesterday's DC Superhero World Record Event. Would you like other forms of credentials to validate my right to comment on a topic??

Two, It is a prediction thread, not an analysis thread. The purpose here is to have fun making a guess at where this film will top out. I don't have a stake either way in determining how successful this film will be. I shot out some numbers. But lets suppose for a moment that I did analyze the matter to further justify my prediction. For starters, reactions to the trailer have been mixed. Some people are deriding the trailer as boring because it released right after the Star Wars trailer. I for one find this irrelevant, but apparently people online share your type of thinking and don't know how to enjoy more than one thing at a time (I am stoked for both Star Wars and Batman v Superman).

Then there is the fact that a significant number of people on articles and Youtube have commented on how they don't understand why Batman and Superman would ever fight each other because they are friends. That sort of confusion could hurt the box office take. Now, I am not saying that any of that information influenced my prediction, because at the time that I gave my prediction, I had not yet read articles or watched trailer reactions or trailer reviews. I am simply suggesting that audience reaction at the moment is lukewarm and we will have to wait to see how things change. In the mean time, I gave my prediction. If you don't agree, then that is FANTASTIC. But get off my back and maybe go make your own prediction instead of being a jerk.

By the by, sequels are entirely capable of making less than their predecessor. The domestic take for The Amazing Spider-Man was $262 million. The domestic take for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was $202 million. However, strong overseas performance led the film to only make $50 million less than its predecessor, even though it made $60 million less domestically. Unless you or I are analytics specialists, we don't have sufficient data to truly say how things will swing either way. Some sequels do far better, some sequels do far worse. We don' know the pattern here.

So your saying age of ultron will definitely no doubt make less than the first one right???

 

[dalonewolf]

Have to disagree with you on the bolded parts Arach, you make it sound like everyone who has watched the teaser has had a lukewarm reaction or are bored by it.

The people on youtube who don't read comics or didn't know Batman and Superman ever fight of course will question why, but that's the whole point of a film isn't it, that you actually have to watch it to find out what it's all about. Or should we explain and give away the plot/story to everyone on youtube so they don't have to ever use their brains the poor confused little darlings
The 'confusion' as you put it will not hurt anything. Please remember that this was the first teaser trailer. The first. By the time all the trailers have been released I'm sure the general public will be fully up to speed or as informed as they need to be. And I don't think you need to be an analytics expert to see that this film will be much bigger than MOS, I mean come on...It's about as nailed on as you can get.

I have to admit I maybe a lil bias when predicting marvel movies so I decided to stay off of those threads and stick to dc threads this guy is clearly trolling here he's knows there's no way this movie tops out at 280 Dom it'll have a opening weekend either close to or greater than 190.
If he would have at least gave it 325-350 it would have been a better prediction but 280

 

[Greeneyes]

Where do you see me giving MY opinion of the trailer? I gave statements from OTHER opinions of the trailer. I am not being harsh on the trailer, because I have not given my own view of the trailer. Are other people being harsh on the trailer? Perhaps, because there certainly is a vocal group of people, from Youtube and article commentors, to bloggers and media outlets such as Polygon. But none of those thoughts are immediately a reflection of my own position merely because I brought them up in conversation.

Do I disapprove of people jumping on my case because I gave a low estimate for the domestic box office? Absolutely, but am I angry? Hardly. I can't take this anymore seriously than those I have admonished for doing just that very thing. I very much strive to keep my online discussions courteous, my criticisms pointed and on-topic, and my position objective. The moment I start interjecting "feelings" and fanboyism is the moment I lose clarity on the matter.

As for my actual opinion of the trailer, since you have yet to ask me yet profess that I am being harsh about the trailer: I enjoyed it. I have tickets to the IMAX event for tomorrow at 7pm in Hollywood. I am a fan of The Dark Knight Returns and look forward to seeing this particular interpretation of that material, even though I have read the graphic novel and have the animated feature length film. I am stoked for Affleck's Batman, I appreciate the costumes and I very much enjoy the fact that this film will simultaneously address both the consequences of Superman's actions in the first Man of Steel movie as well as the public's general discourse on an alien being among them. It is realistic and very human. Furthermore it enforces what David Goyer said about his script for the first film, in which he felt that any Superman origin story would have to be written as a story of "first contact." So I love everything about the trailer and the direction for the film as we understand it thus far.

By not giving your opinion of the teaser yet stating what you did from 'some' people online, it did come over as though you thought the same. Well at least it did to me, but I've got a massive hangover today so what the heck do I know haha.

I'm glad that you also like the first teaser man. I'd still stay away from online comments though if I were you, they don't exactly portray rational real life very accurately do they t:

 

[Greeneyes]

I have to admit I maybe a lil bias when predicting marvel movies so I decided to stay off of those threads and stick to dc threads this guy is clearly trolling here he's knows there's no way this movie tops out at 280 Dom it'll have a opening weekend either close to or greater than 190.
If he would have at least gave it 325-350 it would have been a better prediction but 280

I don't know if he's trolling or not but I'm too hungover to get serious about things today. I did notice a few people questioning his prediction though. Maybe he just made a mistake and didn't know what the domestic would probably make?

 

[CGNefarious]

After seeing the teaser I'd say it'll make $400 billion domestic easy.

 

[Arach Knight]

So your saying age of ultron will definitely no doubt make less than the first one right???

Your reading comprehension is abysmal, or you are simply trolling. However, given that you directly quoted me, and the answer to your "question" is in said quote, I'm going to lean toward trolling.

Some sequels do far better, some sequels do far worse. We don' know the pattern here

Dalonewolf, please learn to read and not just respond with foolishness. Does it look like I said Age of Ultron will "definitely" make less than the first one. Did I say all sequels earn less? No, I said it is possible for sequels to earn less and used the most recent high profile example of an instance where a sequel did earn less than its predecessor. Stop making generalizations.

 

[Iceman]

Furious 7 update for comparison: $1.15B by 3rd weekend!

 

[Mon-El]

It'll be huge, even if it it's poor critically speaking (which I don't think it will be; it will be great,imo).So, 1 billion is a lock, imho.

 

[dalonewolf]

Your reading comprehension is abysmal, or you are simply trolling. However, given that you directly quoted me, and the answer to your "question" is in said quote, I'm going to lean toward trolling.



Dalonewolf, please learn to read and not just respond with foolishness. Does it look like I said Age of Ultron will "definitely" make less than the first one. Did I say all sequels earn less? No, I said it is possible for sequels to earn less and used the most recent high profile example of an instance where a sequel did earn less than its predecessor. Stop making generalizations.

Your entire reply isn't worth reading because it simply doesn't make sense. No matter how you put the math or comparisons
If you wanna be a troll so be it

 

[Limonade]

400 million domestically and 600 million internationally 2nd weekend.

 

[Marvin]

Furious 7 update for comparison: $1.15B by 3rd weekend!

I expect BvS to do better domestically than that.
But the international element is highly unpredictable and Furious is putting on a master class in that regard.

 

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I expect BvS to do better domestically than that.
But the international element is highly unpredictable and Furious is putting on a master class in that regard.

Domestically it'll be a monster. Will have to see what these guys do abroad when teamed up. On their own they are yet to set overseas markets alight (even the 2 TDK films). I think over $700m overseas is possible along with 4-500 domestic. More if the film can fully deliver.