BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - Part 13

[third3ye]

^ Well they did say it passed the $700m mark on Tue, so they're probably counting the Tue daily. WB PR team gotta spin it like a DJ, baby!

 

[JtheDreamer]

^ Well they did say it passed the $700m mark on Tue, so they're probably counting the Tue daily. WB PR team gotta spin it like a DJ, baby!

 

[SomeOldGuy]

^ Well they did say it passed the $700m mark on Tue, so they're probably counting the Tue daily. WB PR team gotta spin it like a DJ, baby!

A-yup. Wait until the market closes to quietly let go of lousy Monday numbers, then issue a big release about how you're going over a big round figure "today" that will be in everyone's headlines tomorrow. If the can just milk it to the weekend they can start blaming competition for the "slowdown."

 

[johnboy3434]

I have a hard time seeing that big a jump Friday. I'm betting more like $18-20 million for the weekend.

Well, Clash of the Titans and Furious 7 averaged 174% increases for their third Fridays. BvS has been generally underperforming the averages, so 162% would fit the general outlook.

 

[wobbly]

‘Batman v Superman’ Crossing $700 Million Worldwide Box Office Milestone

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/batman-v-superman-box-office-milestone-1201746550/

Only 2 days later than expected...

https://***********/GiteshPandya/status/716059832059568128

 

[Doctor Jones]

The best part of this continuing box office is how WB will keep spinning this.

 

[wobbly]

A-yup. Wait until the market closes to quietly let go of lousy Monday numbers, then issue a big release about how you're going over a big round figure "today" that will be in everyone's headlines tomorrow. If they can just milk it to the weekend they can start blaming competition for the "slowdown."

As I suspected, no comment on the Monday drop (actuals held until after trading closed), and focus on the milestone (that they were supposed to 'smash' Sunday) before trading resumes Wednesday.

It is spin at its finest, but in fairness most of the big corporations play this game.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Let's also remember that ASM 2 made Sony money. That filmed turned a profit and they were still immensely disappointed.
And before someone comes in here and tries to point out the numerous differences between Sonys financial situation and WB's, my point still stands: Sony was disappointed with their biggest Spider-man film yet not breaking a billion, you bet your bottom dollar WB is even more disappointed.

Sony was so disappointed they finally caved and made a deal so Spidey could be in the MCU. WB doesn't have the option to have a more competent studio fix this mess for them. Fire Snyder and had the keys to Timm if they knew what was good for them.

^ Well they did say it passed the $700m mark on Tue, so they're probably counting the Tue daily. WB PR team gotta spin it like a DJ, baby!

I am a DJ and that's a hell of a lot more spinning than the average turntablist can muster haha.

I love that damn cat. Tampa Bay goes hard in the paint. I'm glad this is my stomping ground.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Let's also remember that ASM 2 made Sony money. That filmed turned a profit and they were still immensely disappointed.
And before someone comes in here and tries to point out the numerous differences between Sonys financial situation and WB's, my point still stands: Sony was disappointed with their biggest Spider-man film yet not breaking a billion, you bet your bottom dollar WB is even more disappointed.

It only made 70 or something million in profit.

 

[Zarex]

It needed to do a billion. Get rid of Snyder. Unfortunately I think Justice League Part II may be in jeopardy. What director is going to commit to a part one and part two? It's career suicide, no matter what the pay day. They won't give it to the WW director. Maybe Affleck would take it. Miller? I don't see it happening. That's the guy, but I think that boat has sailed.

November 2017 is simply too soon. You want to avoid Avengers. I think late 2019 and summer 2020 is your best bet. You can do a Batman solo film in between. I would do a prequel with Robin. Or SS2. Otherwise Justice League needs a full trilogy, if Snyder is getting part 1. Give another director 2/3.

Due to the disappointing BO I could see the 2019 JL2 date become the release date for JL1.

 

[wobbly]

The best part of this continuing box office is how WB will keep spinning this.

"They spin us right round baby, right round like a record baby, right round round round"

Knowing that from memory makes me feel damned old...

 

[Raiden]

Let's also remember that ASM 2 made Sony money. That filmed turned a profit and they were still immensely disappointed.
And before someone comes in here and tries to point out the numerous differences between Sonys financial situation and WB's, my point still stands: Sony was disappointed with their biggest Spider-man film yet not breaking a billion, you bet your bottom dollar WB is even more disappointed.

Ironically, ASM2 was supposed to set up their cinematic universe, while BVS is doing the same by setting up JL.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

Ironically, ASM2 was supposed to set up their cinematic universe, while BVS is doing the same by setting up JL.

BvS is like a companion piece to ASM2.

 

[third3ye]

So what's the odds that BvS and Zootopia will both gross around the same amounts by the end of their runs? Now that would REALLY get the anti-Disney conspiracy theorists going BvS can't top Deadpool's DOM and a talking bunny and fox from a brand new franchise were able to go head to head against Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman t:

 

[InCali]

This is a new era in which comic-book movies are judged according to the standards created by Marvel's films, which are what the mainstream audience prefers. Remember, The Dark Knight was released back in 2008, which was around the time that Marvel began releasing its movies. Therefore, the standard created by Marvel wasn't around back then.

This confuses me. Sometimes it's hard to understand exactly what people are saying using this media, but if DC is superior to Marvel (as I believe you stated earlier), why wasn't the "standard" created by DC given that TDK and IM were released about the same time?

I think the answer is that, overall, Marvel has created many more enjoyable movies. Overall, they had a better plan, provided more resources, hired the right people and, therefore, set the standard.

I want DC to succeed. I just don't think the DC "brain trust" has done that great of a job and I'm someone who thinks BvS was better than MoS (which I watched again last night on some Turner channel just because I wanted to make sure I wasn't shortchanging it. Then I watched Thor which I thought was much better).

 

[Flint Marko]

ASM 2 and BVS are both overstuffed sequels made by film makers with no vision trying their hardest to catch up to Marvel.
Actually saying Snyder doesn't have a vision may be incorrect, I think he has one but it's just ineffectual.

 

[akfj]

The best part of this continuing box office is how WB will keep spinning this.

Since it's over $500 mil, can't they just round up to the nearest billion?

 

[WilliamK99]

I am getting so dizzy from WB's spin.. So technically they are ecstatic about making 700 million? And don't care movie is only going to make a minor profit?

 

[SomeOldGuy]

I am getting so dizzy from WB's spin.. So technically they are ecstatic about making 700 million? And don't care movie is only going to make a minor profit?

Whatever the final numbers, WB is going to declare them a victory. They have little choice. They've sold this film to stockholders as the launch of a new franchise that will make them billions over the next decade. And they will stick to that story like glue. Publicly.

Behind the scenes don't be surprised if there are...ah...adjustments. At the least Snyder gets much more oversight on JL. Beyond that, time will tell.

 

[wobbly]

I am getting so dizzy from WB's spin.. So technically they are ecstatic about making 700 million? And don't care movie is only going to make a minor profit?

Publicly they will make the most of it. They have to in fairness. Standard operating procedure.

Behind closed doors will be another matter, and no, they will not be happy if it only makes a minor profit. No-one invests years of time & effort into something and is happy with a minimal ROI. That this was set to be the glorious foundation for their expanded universe (and ensure mega $$$) is another headache they won't be overjoyed with. Not a good start at all.

 

[Flint Marko]

I am getting so dizzy from WB's spin.. So technically they are ecstatic about making 700 million? And don't care movie is only going to make a minor profit?

I doubt anyone other than us and industry insiders are aware that they're barely going to break even compared to what they spent. To the general public that number might look really impressive.

 

[Gerontophobe]

So what's the odds that BvS and Zootopia will both gross around the same amounts by the end of their runs? Now that would REALLY get the anti-Disney conspiracy theorists going BvS can't top Deadpool's DOM and a talking bunny and fox from a brand new franchise were able to go head to head against Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman t:

I think Zootopia may very well end higher. With current drops it is on track for $350-360M. It will probably drop more against Jungle Book next week but I wouldn't be surprised to see BvS finish lower.

It might be the same case internationally as Zootopia is already over $800M and growing, with Japan (which could be huge) still to come. Frozen did $249M(!) there while Big Hero 6 did $77M.

 

[jmc]

WB have no option but to put a spin on it. The problem comes not with this movie, but with JL. Make no mistake, regardless of what BvS doesn't end up making they are far more worried about JL at this point in time. No-one is going to buy into the JL hype this time around and they know it, and rival studios aren't going to be afraid to line up counter programming against it to the reception of both MoS and BvS. Frankly, JL is no longer as big a film as it once was, and that's the problem they are facing.

 

[Sithborg]

So, I'm thinking 3.5 for Tue. It will be interesting to see if discount Tue actually helps this time.

 

[Kobra]

I doubt anyone other than us and industry insiders are aware that they're barely going to break even compared to what they spent. To the general public that number might look really impressive.

A lot of movies that are perceived as financially and critically successful barely break even or make any money at all. It all comes down to how much they have spent in stuff like marketing, for example.