Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - Part 13

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  1. Ms. Marvel

    Ms. Marvel Screwed up Avenger

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    In that case you are still wrong. TDK, TA, TWS, IM, GotG, Deadpool and many more are not considered front loaded as they all had pretty good multipliers.
     
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  2. Zero_Effect

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    How so?
     
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  3. Ms. Marvel

    Ms. Marvel Screwed up Avenger

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    Front loaded does not mean "it opened big" just to clarify.
     
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  4. Stark Bauer

    Stark Bauer Wants 2b cast as Darkhawk

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    I want to put this BvS is a BOX OFFICE success/failure argument to rest.

    Millions and billions of dollars are such vast quantities for us mere proletarians to fathom lol so an analogy if you will:

    Let's say you are an aspiring fisherman. And you NEED $160 for a fishing rod to start your business. You only have $80 so you give it to me and tell me to double your money at the casino.

    I tell you that at the start of the night I made a killing. But as the night wore on, I started to lose more games.

    Remember, you NEED $160.

    I hand you back a grand total of $85.

    Profitable?
    Yes, but barely.
    Is this what you needed?
    No.

    Warner Bros. entrusted $400 million to Zack Snyder to help kickstart their DCEU (not including MOS).

    They are on track to making only $50 million in profit ($850 million)

    (When movies are released, on average, the studios are only taking back 50% of what they gross.)

    Ideally, a studio would like to make as much as they invested or at minimum, half as much as they invested (the production and marketing budgets) ON TOP of what they invested.

    So $400M IN,
    need to make double to make par so $800M,
    WB was probably aiming for

    $1.2 billion

    $1 billion would be the minimum they would settle for in order to justify their investment.

    Anything less isn't going to cut it (which is where they are headed) so it's going to be very interesting as to how much cash WB is willing to potentially burn in the next few weeks/months.

    In comparison,

    Marvel has done the equivalent of you handing me $2000 and you NEED to end up with at least $3000, but prefer $4000 back. I invested it in the stock market and bought Netflix shares.

    I hand you back $4500.
     
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  5. Ms. Marvel

    Ms. Marvel Screwed up Avenger

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    It means it made most of its $ in the early weeks of its run. Which almost any movie with a budget over 100 million does.
     
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  7. Poni_Boy

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    And boom goes the dynamite :yay:
     
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  8. jokesonm3

    jokesonm3 Jokes For Short.

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    Sure thing:

    For those who don't know what Front-Loading is (And holy hell there's a lotta you that don't know here), here's a quick definition of what it is, y'all can put 2 & 2 together as to why Batman v Superman's box office oh-so clearly falls under this:

    http://hsxsanity.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/what-is-front-loading.html
     
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  9. Sarcastic Fan

    Sarcastic Fan King of Hell

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    Let's just keep this copied somewhere for easy re-posting.
     
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  10. Poni_Boy

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    No, that's not what it means. Front loading is a release PLAN not a release analysis after the fact. Studios CHOOSE to front load a movie, it's not an explanation of why a movie got the money it did.
     
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  11. Ms. Marvel

    Ms. Marvel Screwed up Avenger

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    If the movie has a high internal multiplier then it isn't front-loaded.
     
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    Aaaand there it is. Studios choose to front load their movies to hedge their bets on recovering the most money up FRONT as possible. It's a release plan when you are worried about a movie having bad legs/longevity
     
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  13. Stark Bauer

    Stark Bauer Wants 2b cast as Darkhawk

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    I'm glad you enjoyed that friend. CW is going to be taking most of what is left (Jungle Book will be first blood) of BvS' screens away


    Disney is a lethal assassin lol hitting other studios with an arsenal full of WMDs.
     
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  14. Poni_Boy

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    And the vast majority of the time studio analysts know if a movie will have one before it is released. If you want to know if a studio is hedging their bets on a movie being front loaded look for: late review embargo lifting + big presale ticket push + revised OW estimation
     
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    Good idea. I'm gonna add that and a few other references to my sig
     
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    Yes.

    Most of these films ARE front-loaded. Many open big and end up with a 2.4-2.5 multiplier. Comic book movies generally have high front-end demand.
     
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  17. Poni_Boy

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    They damn well should be if they're being released in a crowded market. Gotta recoup those funds ASAP and not just sit around hoping next week's blockbuster will flop
     
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  18. JOE

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    No movie is going to make more money in it's second weekend, the OW will always be larger than the rest. Does that make every single movie front loaded? No. End of discussion lol.
     
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  19. Tymminator

    Tymminator The Main Man in Minnesota

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    Great summery but real quick, what's GFB?
     
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  20. jokesonm3

    jokesonm3 Jokes For Short.

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    No idea, i just copy & paste stuff. :oldrazz:
     
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  21. LibidoLoca

    LibidoLoca Sensually Delicious

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    Gay Friend's Boyfriend? Global Fries Boycott?
     
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  22. Zero_Effect

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    Exhibitor Relations ‏@ERCboxoffice

    BATMAN V SUPERMAN officially grossed $85.25M internationally this weekend on 28k screens in 67 markets. Total is $422.5M.
     
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  23. Poni_Boy

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    Godawful Freaking Boxoffice
     
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  24. Poni_Boy

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    So, predictions on this week's percentages based on the weekend?
     
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  25. Tymminator

    Tymminator The Main Man in Minnesota

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    422.5M total huh? Hm.
     
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