BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - - - Part 16

[Timebomb]

I don't think anyone is really. Or not many. Most people are pretty bummed, but know that it's probably for the best that this film not do that we'll (like it has) because they hope that it'll force WB to change course and we can get a more fulfilling interpretation of these characters. But I don't think many people are happy about it. It's not a fun situation to see some of your favorite fictional characters in.

I agree with this

 

[samsnee]

Is this even hitting $900M?

 

[FunkMiller]

Is this even hitting $900M?

Doubtful. CW has basically murdered it at the OS box office faster than Batfleck. It will do the same DOM as well. It's not getting over 880 at this rate.

 

[Timebomb]

When a movie is good, people don't mind having spent the money to help it succeed.

I would actually really be interested in the box office take if we could some how back out all the sales of people who regretted seeing it.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Exactly. I personally feel that if you love the genre and love these characters, but weren't satisfied by how BvS turned out, you should be happy that the box office has given WB executives pause. Again, they shouldn't be rewarded for this.

I feel the same way but I don't recall anyone in here crunching the numbers because they want to rub it in DC fans faces. I always see the same posters in every BO thread and we tend to discuss the numbers pretty subjectively. I'm always biased towards Marvel films but I know many, myself included, just find the numbers these movies do as truly fascinating. Then you have DC fanboys in here and other threads acting like the actual numbers, which are facts, are somehow being used to say BvS is the worst CBM of all time.

 

[FunkMiller]

I feel the same way but I don't recall anyone in here crunching the numbers because they want to rub it in DC fans faces. I always see the same posters in every BO thread and we tend to discuss the numbers pretty subjectively. I'm always biased towards Marvel films but I know many, myself included, just find the numbers these movies do as truly fascinating. Then you have DC fanboys in here and other threads acting like the actual numbers, which are facts, are somehow being used to say BvS is the worst CBM of all time.

Numbers are the only true indicator of a movie's success or failure with the GA, that's why keeping an eye on the box office is so important - and understanding how much money actually goes to the movie company is even more important. BvS will barely break even. In WB's eyes it will be regarded as a failure. Anyone can dress the situation up as much as they like, but the numbers don't lie. It's a poor movie, and it'll have a deserved poor return on investment.

 

[Marvel Knight]

Count me as someone who's happy this film disappointed financially. After seeing the lackluster finished product, I'm happy that WB won't be making a massive haul off. It's a disappointing movie and it deserves a disappointing box office.

Yup. As a DC fan, I'm cheering for BVS (and the DCEU) to continue to disappoint and underwhelm.

They need to start over with a much better approach and a better vision.

Launching this thing off Snyder's Man Of Steel was a terrible move, and BVS was the result of that.

 

[hurley711]

From the SHH CW homepage article...

In other superhero news, Warner Bros.’ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice added $3.8 million domestically and $2.75 million internationally. The Zack Snyder-directed comic book adaptation has earned $325 million in North America and $537.8 million internationally for a worldwide total of $862.9 million.

 

[Spiderine]

Box office numbers are very important since the future of an entire franchise could be affected. Thats why we put so much emphasis on it. We as fans want to see these movies succeed for all the right reasons. I remember when people were arguing over ASM2. The criticism and performance killed all the future plans Sony once had. Of course Spiderman is just one property. DC has a massive library of characters and have already had several poorly performing films released. This was by far the biggest in scale.

I don't know how many times you can start from scratch. I just hope they have better success with Suicide Squad.

 

[HeroicFan]

It's one thing to objectively speak in regard to a film's critical and financial performance, but it's something entirely different to reiterate ad nauseam how the film is a disappointment. I've seen the same users repeat the same information over and over again in regard to the film's box office performance; for example, it's been said God knows how many times how Zootopia has stronger legs, how the film won't even hit a billion, how the film will barely make a 2X multiplier by the end of its run, etc. Literally, this same information has been repeated hundreds of times in the past weeks that I've been reading through this series of threads. Hence, it's obvious at this point that this series of threads isn't a means to talk about the film's box office performance but is one to bash the film over and over again with the same set of hammers. What makes this even more obvious than it is intrinsically are the wannabe-witty posts in which some of you hurl personal insults at the movie (e.g. 'compared to BvS, SM3 is Schnilder's list,' etc). At this point, it's clear that the film isn't performing as it was expected to. So, what's the purpose of this non-stop badgering? When will this stop? After the 30th iteration of these threads? It would be sensible to judge the film's performance based on its critical reception and readjusted expectations.

Having said all this, whether or not you all except the truth, the truth is that this film is a financial success; $862 million is nothing to scoff at and, despite what's been said, is enough for the film to make a decent profit. You'd have to be foolish to believe that $800 million is the breaking point, because no studio is dumb enough to expect a guaranteed $1 billion or more; a studio would hope for that level of revenue but wouldn't bank on it. Considering the aforementioned advertisement deals that WB has made with Doritos, Turkish Airlines, and other businesses, it's obvious that they've made a profit via these deals in addition to the box office receipt.

One more thing, it's pathetic that some of you have actually expressed joy that this film is "disappointing" at the box office; you sound like spoiled children who don't want their not-so-favorite team to win. Quite sad.

 

[Flint Marko]

One more thing, it's pathetic that some of you have actually expressed joy that this film is "disappointing" at the box office; you sound like spoiled children who don't want their not-so-favorite team to win. Quite sad.

Nope! I'm just a fan who loves the genre and doesn't want mediocrity rewarded. Had BvS made the money that WB wanted, they'd be content with turning out more movies like this and once again, as a fan, that idea depresses me. So yes, I'm very happy that they were given pause with their underwhelming profit so they can reassess their mishandling of these characters.

 

[Marvel Knight]

no studio is dumb enough to expect a guaranteed $1 billion or more;

The former President of WB expected MOS to hit 1.3 Billion.

Interesting that no MOS sequels have been announced after the film didn't come anywhere close to that.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Nope! I'm just a fan who loves the genre and doesn't want mediocrity rewarded. Had BvS made the money that WB wanted, they'd be content with turning out more movies like this and once again, as a fan, that idea depresses me. So yes, I'm very happy that they were given pause with their underwhelming profit so they can reassess their mishandling of these characters.

The worst case scenario for me is a Transformers. Those films always make a ton of money, so they will continue to get made. The chances of me seeing a Transformers movie I enjoy in the foreseeable future is basically none. As a result, the franchise is dead to me. I sure don't want to see that happen with Batman and Superman.

 

[Erzengel]

The last 2 Transformers movies made $1.1B each. Even though the domestic took a tumble from the last one, ww made up for it. I so hope that the next one tanks.

 

[Gerontophobe]

A lot people in the box Office Threads compared it to B&R with the word "embarassing".
I repeat: a movie with a budget of 250m able to do 870m is profitable, i would say highly profitable. Of course people will reply that it had the most expensive marketing campaign ever, that it will not sell a single blueray etc. But I wonder if we are talking seriously or not...

Well, quality-wise BvS is pretty similar to B&R. (Side-note: I rewatched that movie last weekend and it really is awful. However, I had a good time watching it with my roommates since I was takings shots everything Freeze made an ice pun.) Box office-wise, BvS is much closer to Batman Forever.

Sure, the absolute numbers aren't close but the gross:budget ratio is pretty similar. BvS will finish about 3.48X production budget while BF was 3.37X budget. When you figure in that BF's marketing budget was less (budget percentage-wise) and that it made a greater proportion domestically, the financials are probably pretty close. BvS better hope it has the same toy sales (there's no way it will).

I feel the same way but I don't recall anyone in here crunching the numbers because they want to rub it in DC fans faces. I always see the same posters in every BO thread and we tend to discuss the numbers pretty subjectively. I'm always biased towards Marvel films but I know many, myself included, just find the numbers these movies do as truly fascinating. Then you have DC fanboys in here and other threads acting like the actual numbers, which are facts, are somehow being used to say BvS is the worst CBM of all time.

I totally agree; I just love the numbers. My favorite CBM is TDK and my second is TA, so I want both studios to do well. Also, as a college student I don't own stock in any of the companies (like a certain devastated poster).

 

[Gerontophobe]

The worst case scenario for me is a Transformers. Those films always make a ton of money, so they will continue to get made. The chances of me seeing a Transformers movie I enjoy in the foreseeable future is basically none. As a result, the franchise is dead to me. I sure don't want to see that happen with Batman and Superman.

The last 2 Transformers movies made $1.1B each. Even though the domestic took a tumble from the last one, ww made up for it. I so hope that the next one tanks.

I do think audiences are tiring of Bay's shtick and I think they will begin a decline. They'll probably still make money but hopefully the shift leads to some priority reevaluations.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Having said all this, whether or not you all except the truth, the truth is that this film is a financial success; $862 million is nothing to scoff at and, despite what's been said, is enough for the film to make a decent profit. You'd have to be foolish to believe that $800 million is the breaking point, because no studio is dumb enough to expect a guaranteed $1 billion or more; a studio would hope for that level of revenue but wouldn't bank on it. Considering the aforementioned advertisement deals that WB has made with Doritos, Turkish Airlines, and other businesses, it's obvious that they've made a profit via these deals in addition to the box office receipt.

Is any of this based off of anything other than your own belief? Since multiple respected news sources have reported that the film needs to make anywhere from 800mil to 950mil to break even...I'm going to say that you're most likely wrong, unless you have other reliable sources to back it up.

 

[Gerontophobe]

It's one thing to objectively speak in regard to a film's critical and financial performance, but it's something entirely different to reiterate ad nauseam how the film is a disappointment. I've seen the same users repeat the same information over and over again in regard to the film's box office performance; for example, it's been said God knows how many times how Zootopia has stronger legs, how the film won't even hit a billion, how the film will barely make a 2X multiplier by the end of its run, etc. Literally, this same information has been repeated hundreds of times in the past weeks that I've been reading through this series of threads. Hence, it's obvious at this point that this series of threads isn't a means to talk about the film's box office performance but is one to bash the film over and over again with the same set of hammers. What makes this even more obvious than it is intrinsically are the wannabe-witty posts in which some of you hurl personal insults at the movie (e.g. 'compared to BvS, SM3 is Schnilder's list,' etc). At this point, it's clear that the film isn't performing as it was expected to. So, what's the purpose of this non-stop badgering? When will this stop? After the 30th iteration of these threads? It would be sensible to judge the film's performance based on its critical reception and readjusted expectations.

Having said all this, whether or not you all except the truth, the truth is that this film is a financial success; $862 million is nothing to scoff at and, despite what's been said, is enough for the film to make a decent profit. You'd have to be foolish to believe that $800 million is the breaking point, because no studio is dumb enough to expect a guaranteed $1 billion or more; a studio would hope for that level of revenue but wouldn't bank on it. Considering the aforementioned advertisement deals that WB has made with Doritos, Turkish Airlines, and other businesses, it's obvious that they've made a profit via these deals in addition to the box office receipt.

One more thing, it's pathetic that some of you have actually expressed joy that this film is "disappointing" at the box office; you sound like spoiled children who don't want their not-so-favorite team to win. Quite sad.

So yeah, I'm going to go with the ignoring these posts from here on out but I'll just say, the only reason these numbers keep being repeated is because of posts like this one that pretend like they don't exist. I find it very annoying to see the same attempts at correcting misguided thinking continue to fail. Oh well, I guess some people prefer to bury their heads in the sand.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Well, quality-wise BvS is pretty similar to B&R. (Side-note: I rewatched that movie last weekend and it really is awful. However, I had a good time watching it with my roommates since I was takings shots everything Freeze made an ice pun.) Box office-wise, BvS is much closer to Batman Forever.

This is where I think people are going overboard. And it tends to happen with most hugely hyped movies that don't live up to expectations. To say that BvS is in the same league as B&R is just silly. I mean, on a purely technical level, the film has enough interesting shots and nice cinematography to make it miles ahead of B&R. Affleck's performance puts it ahead of B&R. The warehouse sequence puts it ahead of B&R.

To be clear, I didn't like this film. I don't think it's a good movie, and it wasn't what I wanted to see two of my favorite characters turned into. I fully hope it continues to do mediocre business like it has so WB changes things.

But to try and say BvS is of the same quality of B&R is a gross exaggeration. BvS isn't a good movie, but it is no where near one of the worst superhero films made. Let's get a bit more perspective here people.

 

[TheScarecrow]

But to try and say BvS is of the same quality of B&R is a gross exaggeration. BvS isn't a good movie, but it is no where near one of the worst superhero films made. Let's get a bit more perspective here people.

I think it's worse than B&R in several ways, and much, much better in several others.

It has some great sequences and performances. B&R does not have those.

However, B&R was at least semi-coherent and wasn't an absolute snooze-fest.

 

[Gerontophobe]

This is where I think people are going overboard. And it tends to happen with most hugely hyped movies that don't live up to expectations. To say that BvS is in the same league as B&R is just silly. I mean, on a purely technical level, the film has enough interesting shots and nice cinematography to make it miles ahead of B&R. Affleck's performance puts it ahead of B&R. The warehouse sequence puts it ahead of B&R.

To be clear, I didn't like this film. I don't think it's a good movie, and it wasn't what I wanted to see two of my favorite characters turned into. I fully hope it continues to do mediocre business like it has so WB changes things.

But to try and say BvS is of the same quality of B&R is a gross exaggeration. BvS isn't a good movie, but it is no where near one of the worst superhero films made. Let's get a bit more perspective here people.

I was teasing just a bit. I rated B&R a 4/10 (which for me is pretty awful) and BvS a 5/10 (just bad). When you're drunk, B&R is pretty fun whereas I'm guessing BvS would just be depressing. But yeah, you could easily reshape BvS into a better movie using the bones of what was there whereas there is almost nothing redeeming about B&R. Also, I grew up watch B&R (dark times) and to a kid it isn't awful (although it still isn't good).

 

[Timebomb]

It's one thing to objectively speak in regard to a film's critical and financial performance, but it's something entirely different to reiterate ad nauseam how the film is a disappointment. I've seen the same users repeat the same information over and over again in regard to the film's box office performance; for example, it's been said God knows how many times how Zootopia has stronger legs, how the film won't even hit a billion, how the film will barely make a 2X multiplier by the end of its run, etc. Literally, this same information has been repeated hundreds of times in the past weeks that I've been reading through this series of threads. Hence, it's obvious at this point that this series of threads isn't a means to talk about the film's box office performance but is one to bash the film over and over again with the same set of hammers. What makes this even more obvious than it is intrinsically are the wannabe-witty posts in which some of you hurl personal insults at the movie (e.g. 'compared to BvS, SM3 is Schnilder's list,' etc). At this point, it's clear that the film isn't performing as it was expected to. So, what's the purpose of this non-stop badgering? When will this stop? After the 30th iteration of these threads? It would be sensible to judge the film's performance based on its critical reception and readjusted expectations.

Having said all this, whether or not you all except the truth, the truth is that this film is a financial success; $862 million is nothing to scoff at and, despite what's been said, is enough for the film to make a decent profit. You'd have to be foolish to believe that $800 million is the breaking point, because no studio is dumb enough to expect a guaranteed $1 billion or more; a studio would hope for that level of revenue but wouldn't bank on it. Considering the aforementioned advertisement deals that WB has made with Doritos, Turkish Airlines, and other businesses, it's obvious that they've made a profit via these deals in addition to the box office receipt.

One more thing, it's pathetic that some of you have actually expressed joy that this film is "disappointing" at the box office; you sound like spoiled children who don't want their not-so-favorite team to win. Quite sad.

If what people are posting here is disgusting you to the point of nausea then I suggest, for your own health, you head over to the positivity thread.

 

[Skrilla31]

But to try and say BvS is of the same quality of B&R is a gross exaggeration. BvS isn't a good movie, but it is no where near one of the worst superhero films made. Let's get a bit more perspective here people.

B&R has way more redeeming qualities than BVS.

 

[B]

Well, quality-wise BvS is pretty similar to B&R. (Side-note: I rewatched that movie last weekend and it really is awful. However, I had a good time watching it with my roommates since I was takings shots everything Freeze made an ice pun.) Box office-wise, BvS is much closer to Batman Forever.

No. BvS might not be a good movie, but it isn't remotely close to being one of the worst superhero movies ever made, which is a title B&R would be fighting for. To label them close in terms of quality or pretty much anything for that matter is a massive exaggeration.

Had the internet/social media been as prominent in 1997 when B&R was released as it is now in 2016 when BvS was released the internet might well have imploded with angry comic fans.

 

[B]

B&R has way more redeeming qualities than BVS.

Such as?