BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - - - Part 16

[Johnglen]

Is this even hitting $900M?

No .

 

[Lantern Venom]

B&R has way more redeeming qualities than BVS.

I can't think of a single thing that B&R did that would rival BvS. B&R was superfluous trash. BvS is flawed, but it tried tell a serious story. That's why I can respect it more than films like Ant-Man, which had that wink-at-the-camera, goofball vibe that reminded me of old CB adaptations. BvS built a modern story with some importance, even if it didn't resonate with everyone.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Why do people defending this movie keep bringing up the current WW gross and ignoring the fact that it's actual profit from that is abysmal...that and the BO drops...and the critics...and audience reaction (divisive at the very best).....

'cos, you know, some of us loved it regarless of hitting the magic $1B....

 

[Johnglen]

I can't think of a single thing that B&R did that would rival BvS. B&R was superfluous trash. BvS is flawed, but it tried tell a serious story. That's why I can respect it more than films like Ant-Man, which had that wink-at-the-camera, goofball vibe that reminded me of old CB adaptations. BvS built a modern story with some importance, even if it didn't resonate with everyone.

Ant man is a fantastic action movie with comedic elements , a coherent story, an extremely likeable leading man and some great actors in supporting roles . BvS is an incoherent mess that has an awful villain, a ridiculous story with both batman and superman being complete morons , a hilariously bad resolution (maaaaarthaaaaaa) , an unlikeable Jesus Christ-like superman , some weird and out of place dream sequences and an awful cgi doomsday . There is nothing truly serious about BvS , it is simply pretentious crap that makes no sense whatsoever . There is a reason all the top serious critics buried that movie , you know .

BvS wishes it was half as good as ant man , then it would have made more than a billion .

 

[GreenKToo]

The silence sure is telling isn't it. Maybe I have missed it but has WB, or anyone else involved, came out and said how proud they are of BvS SINCE it's release?

 

[Mandon Knight]

The silence sure is telling isn't it. Maybe I have missed it but has WB, or anyone else involved, came out and said how proud they are of BvS SINCE it's release?

They did on opening weekend yes.

 

[AndrewOz]

Is this real?

I'm more interested in understanding why he's surprised that Hatters may have an issue with Batman.
Isn't Jervis Tetch head of their guild?

 

[Lantern Venom]

Ant man is a fantastic action movie with comedic elements , a coherent story, an extremely likeable leading man and some great actors in supporting roles . BvS is an incoherent mess that has an awful villain, a ridiculous story with both batman and superman being complete morons , a hilariously bad resolution (maaaaarthaaaaaa) , an unlikeable Jesus Christ-like superman , some weird and out of place dream sequences and an awful cgi doomsday . There is nothing truly serious about BvS , it is simply pretentious crap that makes no sense whatsoever . There is a reason all the top serious critics buried that movie , you know .

BvS wishes it was half as good as ant man , then it would have made more than a billion .

Ant-Man is a couple of hours of fluff about a goofball, JV version of a hero and his slapstick sidekicks. It was sustained by the MCU framework, whereas BvS tried to expand the weighty themes of MoS. Snyder's universe might not be everyone's cup of tea, but an honest effort is always superior to vapid self-parody.

 

[GreenKToo]

If I were a betting man, and I am, I would bet WB is in full on panic mode and are rethinking EVERYTHING atm.
I won't be surprised at anything that happens now.

 

[samsnee]

You forgot to include the tax offsets and promotion deals. The WB's total budget was more like $300 million than $400 million. As far as weeks in release, how do you explain a film like "American Snyper", which had ordes of magnitude higher weekly drops than BvS after its 5th week in release beeing in theatres for 26 weeks?

Because 6 weeks out it was still making over ten million a week. And that movie had positive buzz well after its opening.

BvS had bad word of mouth as soon as it opened.

 

[AndrewOz]

I can't think of a single thing that B&R did that would rival BvS. B&R was superfluous trash. BvS is flawed, but it tried tell a serious story. That's why I can respect it more than films like Ant-Man, which had that wink-at-the-camera, goofball vibe that reminded me of old CB adaptations. BvS built a modern story with some importance, even if it didn't resonate with everyone.

Self-Importance. Unearned. Pomposity should never be confused with gravitas

Think of the most self-absorbed person you know, someone who thinks that everything they say is the most profound and important thing anybody has ever said before and seems perplexed and embittered by a world that just doesn't understand their brilliance and is completely unable to deal with even the slightest perceived criticism, constructive or otherwise.
Then picture the most laid back person you know, who never takes themselves too seriously, always happy to just relax, clown around and have a good time.

Now picture them both doing something pretty embarrassing at a big party.

Which one do you think is going to get laughed at and which one do you think is going to laughed with?

Which is why films like Ant-Man (which is ignoring your lack of respect while it counts it's positive reviews, which is an ancillary offering in the MCCU, not it's Holy Trinity and still made more BO profit than BvS) fare much better than films like BvS.

Although to be fair, BvS is unique. I'm praying it stays that way.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Love has no place in the box office thread. Just like facts and logic and math have no place in the positivity thread. Keep it straight people!

 

[wobbly]

Because 6 weeks out it was still making over ten million a week. And that movie had positive buzz well after its opening.

BvS had bad word of mouth as soon as it opened.

American Sniper is a terrible comparison all around. January release (long run until the the big tent-poles started hitting theatres), much better critical response and much better wom, and far better legs. And cost Less than $60mil to boot.

BvS will continue to trickle money in for as long as WB can get the theatres to keep showing it, but with the competition hitting that theatre count will drop to bugger all soon enough.

 

[AndrewOz]

Ant-Man a couple of hours of fluff about a goofball, JV version of a hero and his slapstick sidekicks. It was sustained by the MCU framework, whereas BvS tried to expand the weighty themes of MoS. Snyder's universe might not be everyone's cup of tea, but an honest effort is always superior to vapid self-parody.

I'm still struggling with the idea that MoS had weighty themes.
Where were they? It skirted with potentially weighty themes, but then handled them so poorly they became jokes.
I would contend that when attempting to be serious and relevant, or "weighty", that losing sense thematically in a sea of pomposity, filling the sparse dialogue with far too many lines of turgid prose, making a laughable attempt to re-create a psuedo-scientific explanation of Kryptonian powers ("atmospherics"! Really?), that are not only contradicted, but utterly refuted in the very same movie, takes the potentially serious and turns it into the very definition of vapid self-parody.
Albeit unintentionally.

 

[Johnglen]

Ant-Man a couple of hours of fluff about a goofball, JV version of a hero and his slapstick sidekicks. It was sustained by the MCU framework, whereas BvS tried to expand the weighty themes of MoS. Snyder's universe might not be everyone's cup of tea, but an honest effort is always superior to vapid self-parody.

All the top critics buried BvS . That's more credible than what you think , but then again you think ant-man is a ....parody when , in reality, BvS is the parody doing every character as idiotic as possible .

 

[AndrewOz]

Love has no place in the box office thread. Just like facts and logic and math have no place in the positivity thread. Keep it straight people!

t:t:t:

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Serious =/= better

Tone doesn't dictate quality.

 

[FunkMiller]

Think of the most self-absorbed person you know, someone who thinks that everything they say is the most profound and important thing anybody has ever said before and seems perplexed and embittered by a world that just doesn't understand their brilliance and is completely unable to deal with even the slightest perceived criticism, constructive or otherwise.
.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

 

[samsnee]

Serious =/= better

Tone doesn't dictate quality.

Grim dark =/= serious

 

[matt47]

Stop. ****ing. On.

 

[Micromind]

Think of the most self-absorbed person you know, someone who thinks that everything they say is the most profound and important thing anybody has ever said before and seems perplexed and embittered by a world that just doesn't understand their brilliance and is completely unable to deal with even the slightest perceived criticism, constructive or otherwise.

I don't get it, man has been at the receiving end for years now. How he is unable to deal with slightest perceived criticism ?

Edit: It seems that fans who hated the move have moved from criticizing his work to personal criticism now.

 

[superion]

You forgot to include the tax offsets and promotion deals. The WB's total budget was more like $300 million than $400 million. As far as weeks in release, how do you explain a film like "American Snyper", which had ordes of magnitude higher weekly drops than BvS after its 5th week in release beeing in theatres for 26 weeks?

Every article I have seen said the budget was $250 million. Production cost was probably greater than $250 million but the tax credits brought it down to that level unless you found a article stating otherwise.

For example John Carter actually cost over $300 million to make but the tax credits brought the production cost down to the reported $250 million.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2...ion-cost-of-disneys-john-carter/#6f42e8dd41eb

 

[AndrewOz]

 

[superion]

Well, quality-wise BvS is pretty similar to B&R. (Side-note: I rewatched that movie last weekend and it really is awful. However, I had a good time watching it with my roommates since I was takings shots everything Freeze made an ice pun.) Box office-wise, BvS is much closer to Batman Forever.

Batman and Robin had 11% on rotten tomatoes so even the critics concede BvS is better. I liked this film better than all the other Batman's except for Nolan's trilogy.

The first hour and half of this film is a awful pretentious slog to get through but I never cared much for Burton's films and the less said about Schumacher's the better.