BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - - - Part 16

[FunkMiller]

Sites reporting weekend OS box office now for another movie.

....probably best not to go and look, really.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Eh, may as well stick around for the end, right? OS numbers for the weekend:

BATMAN VS SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE
As their run winds down and with Marvel rivals now dominating offshore play, the DC superheroes pulled in an estimated $2.75M this weekend from approximately 3,400 screens in 59 markets. The offshore cume is now $537.8M. The top market cumes are China with $95M; the UK at $52.1M; Mexico at $36M, Brazil with $35.5M and Australia at $22.5M.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/captain...tional-box-office-weekend-results-1201747374/

So with domestic that puts it right on $863 million.

 

[FunkMiller]

The prospect of next week's bloodbath makes me feel a little nauseous, but I guess it's inevitable - and probably necessary - if we're ever going to get a proper course correction from WB, and a decent DCEU.

 

[Wylie Times]

FOTR came out 15 years ago and had a budget of $93 million. Not a valid comparison at all.

FOTR also came out during the holiday season.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Is this real?

Probably from the same guy who made this.

 

[Gerontophobe]

Eh, may as well stick around for the end, right? OS numbers for the weekend:

http://deadline.com/2016/05/captain...tional-box-office-weekend-results-1201747374/

So with domestic that puts it right on $863 million.

$2.75M for the weekend internationally is really awful. I mean, the drops were already bad and it was low last week (only $8.4M) but at least it looked like it was slowly stabilizing. Then CW opens and it just falls off a cliff. I thought it might limp to $550M but that's clearly not happening.

 

[FunkMiller]

$2.75M for the weekend internationally is really awful. I mean, the drops were already bad and it was low last week (only $8.4M) but at least it looked like it was slowly stabilizing. Then CW opens and it just falls off a cliff. I thought it might limp to $550M but that's clearly not happening.

Not surprising though. It would have struggled after CW opened, even if it had been good.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

$2.75M for the weekend internationally is really awful. I mean, the drops were already bad and it was low last week (only $8.4M) but at least it looked like it was slowly stabilizing. Then CW opens and it just falls off a cliff. I thought it might limp to $550M but that's clearly not happening.

Yeah, I thought the same about the OS drop. Should have been more like $4-5 million. Doesn't bode well for domestic next weekend. If it has the same kind of drop it might be lucky to clear a million.

Feels now like BvS will top out WW around 870.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

At least it beat Inception.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

BvS did its run overseas. Abroad is the 2nd most successful DCU movie behind Dark Knight Rises. In the US I expected 40-50m more, but it is not a tragedie. The point if that you look to the ww boxoffice chart, BvS is ahead and just behind some of the most successful films ever. Here people describe it sa the new Batman and Robin. Totally insane.

 

[Tymminator]

I do not see 40-50M more on the domestic front at all in any way.

 

[FunkMiller]

BvS did its run overseas. Abroad is the 2nd most successful DCU movie behind Dark Knight Rises. In the US I expected 40-50m more, but it is not a tragedie. The point if that you look to the ww boxoffice chart, BvS is ahead and just behind some of the most successful films ever. Here people describe it sa the new Batman and Robin. Totally insane.

Who the hell has described it as the new Batman & Robin? It's crap, but it's not that bad.

And remember: it's not the money it takes, it's the profit it makes.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

FOTR came out 15 years ago and had a budget of $93 million. Not a valid comparison at all.

You have to adjust for inflation even the budget.
In any case it can work only in the us. Internationally is very difficult. For example I spent more to see FOTR than BvS. 7.5 euros vs 4 euros.
Even the story about being profitable or not is really stupid.
A movie with a 250 budget able to do 870m is profitable.
Why don't people add the marketing to the budget of other beloved sh movies?

Little info: Batman Begins had a budget of 150m in 2005 and did 374m ww.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

Who the hell has described it as the new Batman & Robin? It's crap, but it's not that bad.

And remember: it's not the money it takes, it's the profit it makes.

A lot people in the box Office Threads compared it to B&R with the word "embarassing".
I repeat: a movie with a budget of 250m able to do 870m is profitable, i would say highly profitable. Of course people will reply that it had the most expensive marketing campaign ever, that it will not sell a single blueray etc. But I wonder if we are talking seriously or not...

 

[FunkMiller]

A lot people in the box Office Threads compared it to B&R with the word "embarassing".
I repeat: a movie with a budget of 250m able to do 870m is profitable, i would say highly profitable. Of course people will reply that it had the most expensive marketing campaign ever, that it will not sell a single blueray etc. But I wonder if we are talking seriously or not...

Okay... 250 mil budget plus 170 mil marketing equals 420 mil cost. WW box office 870 mil ..... except half cinema take goes to distributors, so 435 to WB. Which equals 15 million profit for WB. Not exactly a huge success, eh? And that's if the numbers haven't been massaged. 15 mil is virtually no profit at all.

 

[Flint Marko]

BvS was highly profitable? I'm dizzy from all the spin in here.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

You have to adjust for inflation even the budget.

But not the box office gross. Let's just leave that unadjusted.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Forget the numbers for a minute and just look at what WB did after BvS came out and it became apparent it wasn't going to bomb, but that it also wasn't going to make IM3/AoU/Avengers money. Word came out very quickly that WB would be concentrating more on tent poles and release fewer smaller movies. That's because BvS was supposed to be a tent pole, but didn't end up throwing off tent pole cash. So the smaller films that money would have supported have gotten shelved for now.

Is BvS a bomb? No, it's a dud. Will it lose money? Very unlikely once all the revenue streams deliver. But from a financial perspective, it didn't fulfill its role as a tent pole.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

BvS did its run overseas. Abroad is the 2nd most successful DCU movie behind Dark Knight Rises. In the US I expected 40-50m more, but it is not a tragedie. The point if that you look to the ww boxoffice chart, BvS is ahead and just behind some of the most successful films ever. Here people describe it sa the new Batman and Robin. Totally insane.

If you're going to come in here and talk numbers with the rest of us you're going to need to know what the heck you're talking about first. As was pointed out in a post above depending on the marketing this film is lucky to break even or make a very small profit. You do not invest half a billion dollars into a film that is supposed to launch your shared universe in the hopes of barely breaking even.

The critics hated it and we know this because of the RT scores. The Cinemascore and the record-breaking drops each weekend show the GA does not care for this film. Those are the facts.

Nobody in here is "hating" on the film or gleefully basking in the financial failure of this film. We are here to talk numbers and if you go back to even the week of release almost every single one of us we're trying to figure out just how much over a billion this movie was going to make.

This is the box office numbers thread and the fact that a movie with the DC trinity has produced a film that barely breaks even is truly shocking to almost everyone in here.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Deadpool ($19.9), BvS ($20.6) and Civil War ($20.5) all had pretty similar opening weekends here in the UK. Interesting.

 

[Jekecy]

Nobody in here is "hating" on the film or gleefully basking in the financial failure of this film. We are here to talk numbers and if you go back to even the week of release almost every single one of us we're trying to figure out just how much over a billion this movie was going to make.

No?

 

[Flint Marko]

Count me as someone who's happy this film disappointed financially. After seeing the lackluster finished product, I'm happy that WB won't be making a massive haul off. It's a disappointing movie and it deserves a disappointing box office.

 

[Infinity9999x]

No?

I don't think anyone is really. Or not many. Most people are pretty bummed, but know that it's probably for the best that this film not do that well (like it has) because they hope that it'll force WB to change course and we can get a more fulfilling interpretation of these characters. But I don't think many people are happy about it. It's not a fun situation to see some of your favorite fictional characters in.

 

[Timebomb]

Count me as someone who's happy this film disappointed financially. After seeing the lackluster finished product, I'm happy that WB won't be making a massive haul off. It's a disappointing movie and it deserves a disappointing box office.

I have to agree. Not because I want DC to fail, its actually the opposite. I don't care about box office haul except for the fact that if a movie I like makes money, then I will probably be able to see more of it with sequels. Again, its the opposite here. I don't want to see anymore movies done by Snyder in this universe so if it needs to do poorly financially for that to happen well....

Let's not forget, this movie made most of its money opening weekend when fans like me were excited to see it. Since then, well......

 

[Flint Marko]

Exactly. I personally feel that if you love the genre and love these characters, but weren't satisfied by how BvS turned out, you should be happy that the box office has given WB executives pause. Again, they shouldn't be rewarded for this.