BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 2

[jokesonm3]

Man of Steel debuted big but it failed to crack 300 million, I wouldn't put it in the category of the TDK series.

Any film debuting to 115 million+ should really pass 300 million.

Not if two other highly anticipated films open on Man of Steel's second week, Monsters University and World War Z.


Monsters University: $80M opening weekend.

World War Z: $63M opening weekend.


That is a train stopper for any big film unless it had a OW of $185M+

 

[jokesonm3]

Justice League's success will depend all on how big BvS is.

 

[TripleJ]

Well financially speaking BvS ain't gonna touch TFA.

Now on the other hand, critically speaking, me personally i say it is safe to say that none of the cbm films releasing this year are guaranteed to have an RT score in the 90's percentile like TFA unless they absolutely knock it outta the park, lightning in a bottle.

But honestly, even a diehard fanboy either from DC or Marvel should at least know that no superhero film is gonna touch TFA numbers in a very long time through sheer common sense.

I wouldn't necessarily rule it out (not BvS, but perhaps films like JL).

Expansion in countries like China and India as the main reason (compared to the respective local movie industries, Hollywood's presence is very small in either countries).

 

[jokesonm3]

If by some strange Miracle BvS does better than TFA both critically and financially then believe me i'd be singing n' dancing for all eternity.

 

[Jekecy]

Not if two other highly anticipated films open on Man of Steel's second week, Monsters University and World War Z.


Monsters University: $80M opening weekend.

World War Z: $63M opening weekend.


That is a train stopper for any big film unless it had a OW of $185M+

Look up May 2007. At final tally, the worldwide gross for the 3 big films were over 2.5 billion. So clearly not really a showstopper, unless your film doesn't have the staying power to overcome its competition.

 

[jokesonm3]

Look up May 2007. At final tally, the worldwide gross for the 3 big films were over 2.5 billion. So clearly not really a showstopper, unless your film doesn't have the staying power to overcome its competition.

Man of Steel was incredibly close to passing the $300M domestically.

Those two films definitely fought hard in preventing that.

 

[Jekecy]

Man of Steel was incredibly close to passing the $300M domestically.

Those two films definitely fought hard in preventing that.

Surely you don't think we're harping over a measly 9 million?

I'm sure it would've helped frame the movie if it were a 300m domestic / 700m worldwide blockbuster, but that's hardly the centerpiece of the argument that it could've done a lot better if audiences embraced it more.

 

[jokesonm3]

Surely you don't think we're harping over a measly 9 million?

I'm sure it would've helped frame the movie if it were a 300m domestic / 700m worldwide blockbuster, but that's hardly the centerpiece of the argument that it could've done a lot better if audiences embraced it more.

You don't think that those two films affected Man of Steel's Box Office run?

 

[Superchan]

MOS had very tough competition in it's second weekend to be sure but had it not been so divisive it would've cracked the 300 mill regardless. Hence IMO it's controversial nature and poor release date stopped it from breaking out domestically.
One thing is for sure though MOS opened big (both domestically and internationally), which is a testament to WB's marketing push and superman brand's staying power. So give the character a decent film for a change and watch it do well.

 

[mclay18]

Man of Steel was incredibly close to passing the $300M domestically.

Those two films definitely fought hard in preventing that.

Summer 2013 was a bloodbath in general. Too many movies fighting for screens and dollars.

Jeff Robinov shouldn't have stuck MOS in June, he should've stuck to mid-July or a spring release. It's a shame he didn't really see The Hunger Games and Fast Five's success in the spring as incentive to move MOS up.

Thank God he is no longer at WB, and they're more willing to experiment with off-season releases now. BVS, barring horrible buzz, is likely to hit $150M+ in its opening weekend.

 

[brandeezy89]

The Collider crew is predicting $200M+ opening weekend

 

[Moridin]

Well if what Damon said is true, that Affleck has seen a rough cut of BvS and is "very pleased" with it, I have faith. Affleck hasn't given me a reason to not trust him when he's on the other side of the camera.

What else is Affleck going to say? He's contractually obligated to promote the film.

Now on the other hand, critically speaking, me personally i say it is safe to say that none of the cbm films releasing this year are guaranteed to have an RT score in the 90's percentile like TFA unless they absolutely knock it outta the park, lightning in a bottle.

Looking at track records I would say it's pretty likely at least one or two CBMs this year end up in the 90's. Marvel have done it 3 times already (IM1 94%, Avengers 92%, GotG 91%) with Winter Soldier almost there with 89% (and Civil War from the same writers & directors of that film).
X-Men:Apocalypse is also from the team that delivered DOFP (91%).

Nothing is ever "guaranteed", but it's not like it doesn't happen.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

What else is Affleck going to say? He's contractually obligated to promote the film.

There's a difference between going on the press circuit and talking about how great the movie is, and telling a close friend how you feel about it.

 

[Marvin]

Look up May 2007. At final tally, the worldwide gross for the 3 big films were over 2.5 billion. So clearly not really a showstopper, unless your film doesn't have the staying power to overcome its competition.

Any of those films face the competition mos did in it's second weekend and then on? I'm guessing no. You could have ten big films do mega numbers for a all time super high year(see something like 2015), if they aren't affecting each other in the way all that came directly after mos did, then it's an odd comparison.

 

[sf2]

If by some strange Miracle BvS does better than TFA both critically and financially then believe me i'd be singing n' dancing for all eternity.

why? are you the main investor?

 

[Bruce Malone]

why? are you the main investor?

LOL.

Can't you tell by how passionate some people get in these box office threads that most here are major stock holders in the studios?

 

[Micromind]

Fans (any fan like for example, a sports fan) is invested emotionally, not financially.

 

[Black Narcissus]

LOL.

Can't you tell by how passionate some people get in these box office threads that most here are major stock holders in the studios?

Everyone in the TFA section is now a millionaire.

 

[Jekecy]

Any of those films face the competition mos did in it's second weekend and then on? I'm guessing no. You could have ten big films do mega numbers for a all time super high year(see something like 2015), if they aren't affecting each other in the way all that came directly after mos did, then it's an odd comparison.

Spider-Man 3 faced Shrek 3 and POTC3 in its second/third weekend. It doesn't get much bigger than that. Yet all 3 performed wonderfully at the box office.

If more than one film is enough of an event, it doesn't matter a whole lot if they all occupy the same space. Eventually the crowds will go see them. Now, of course repeat viewings are affected if there's more competition. But that says more of the film's reception if other films get in the way of that.

Fans (any fan like for example, a sports fan) is invested emotionally, not financially.

Yep. Even when a film is critically lauded, low box office can be a real mood killer. I still remember the summer of '05 as being particularly worrisome, because we still weren't sure Batman Begins did well enough to secure a sequel. It's crazy to think we might not have had a Dark Knight trilogy.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Everyone in the TFA section is now a millionaire.

I can only imagine all the fine champagne that has been sipped.

 

[jokesonm3]

They're drinking some Hennessy in the TFA boards.

 

[JOE]

I can understand predicting a movie being a shoe in for $1B + but how can you predict a movie to be 90%+ on RT?

 

[jokesonm3]

I can understand predicting a movie being a shoe in for $1B + but how can you predict a movie to be 90%+ on RT?

Well i admit that calling it guaranteed was a bit silly.

But to get 90%+ on RT the said film must be one of the bast cbm films not just in 2016 but in its entire genre.

X-men: DOFP got that RT score because not only was it an amazing film, it essentially fixed the entire X-men universe from things like the last stand and origins.

GOTG is what i consider to be the funniest cbm film ever and a complete yet welcoming change to the typical superhero film of heroes with capes and superpowers save the day.

For any of the 2016 films to have that high of an RT score especially in this day and age where even critics believe that were having a cbm overload these days, that film has to not only knock it out of the park, but rival and beat the quality that other films of this genre has set.

Like i said, that is a monumental task.

 

[JOE]

Well i admit that calling it guaranteed was a bit silly.

But to get 90%+ on RT the said film must be one of the bast cbm films not just in 2016 but in its entire genre.

X-men: DOFP got that RT score because not only was it an amazing film, it essentially fixed the entire X-men universe from things like the last stand and origins.

GOTG is what i consider to be the funniest cbm film ever and a complete yet welcoming change to the typical superhero film of heroes with capes and superpowers save the day.

For any of the 2016 films to have that high of an RT score especially in this day and age where even critics believe that were having a cbm overload these days, that film has to not only knock it out of the park, but rival and beat the quality that other films of this genre has set.

Like i said, that is a monumental task.

All this movie needs is Batfleck to be stellar. People already know what to expect from Henry for the most part. If people can fall in love with this Batman the same way they fell in love with Bale's then it stands a chance. It's already a given the action will be intense and the setup for Justice League will be goosebump worthy. People need to have fun with this movie and I think Snyder used the criticism from MOS to give us that. Not saying MOS wasn't fun, but it was definitely more serious. It doesn't have to be as light hearted as GOTG, or Iron-Man, but humor will definitely help out. So far the humor I've seen has been perfect, not too much but enough for chuckles.

I'd love to see this movie be in the 90's on RT but it's going to have to earn it.

 

[jokesonm3]

All this movie needs is Batfleck to be stellar. People already know what to expect from Henry for the most part. If people can fall in love with this Batman the same way they fell in love with Bale's then it stands a chance. It's already a given the action will be intense and the setup for Justice League will be goosebump worthy. People need to have fun with this movie and I think Snyder used the criticism from MOS to give us that. Not saying MOS wasn't fun, but it was definitely more serious. It doesn't have to be as light hearted as GOTG, or Iron-Man, but humor will definitely help out. So far the humor I've seen has been perfect, not too much but enough for chuckles.

I'd love to see this movie be in the 90's on RT but it's going to have to earn it.

The only thing that's kinda making it difficult for us to believe that this film will get an RT score in the 90's percentile is Zack Snyder himself.

Critics can love Terrio's script, Ben and the cast's performance, Fongs cinematography, Zimmer's score etc. but i have a feeling that critics are somehow gonna blame Snyder on anything they could find, hell even in this day and age a film with a 75% on RT is like a 90% for a Snyder film lol, i still believe that out of all the critics that are gonna review this film for RT post embargo already have a predetermined biasism for Snyder and might give BvS a rotten review just because he made it.


But all in all from what Jurassic World has taught us, as long as this film has an Rotten Tomatoes score of a minimum of 70+ then i believe that it'll be good enough to have some good legs throughout April and have a good total worldwide Box Office run.