BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 8

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Again, Civil War can't do those WW numbers because they stagger their openings. I mean c'mon guys.

Yeah, with Winter Soldier some countries got it about a month before the US.
 
Again, Civil War can't do those WW numbers because they stagger their openings. I mean c'mon guys.
I wasn't disagreeing. I was just clarifying what Wylie Times might have meant. That said, positive buzz from other countries could help the film's domestic opening to be higher than BvS.
 
I also suspect the internal multiplier will be lower once actuals come in. As for what BvS should have done, I think it is a little unfair to say it should do JW or AOU numbers. I’m content to compare it to other $250M pictures. In that club, it is doing similar to Pirates 3 and 4 (which had bigger budgets), worse than AoU (to be expected), miles better than John Carter and Tangled (who knew that was so expensive?), better than SM3 and Spectre, and similar to HP7-PII and Hobbit 3. Basically, it is doing well when compared to other megabudget projects.

Those projects haven't been in the collective minds of the genpup for decades. These are the grand daddy's of superheroes.
 
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CW is all going to depend on if it opens like a Captain America film or an Avengers film. Having RDJ is going to help, but a lot will depend on reviews as well.
 
It's amazing to see how much the expectations have been lowered. A few months ago no one would have been taken seriously if they predicted a gross under a billion for this movie. You're absolutely right, a billion should have been the FLOOR, not something it feels lucky to achieve.

People are missing the point. The fact that the movie is still making bank despite being a flop (no, I'm not counting the legions of fanboy lovers of this movie), outta make WB cry. In a world where stuff like Jurassic World and Fast and Furious breaks all kinds of records and Star Wars shoots into the stratosphere, Batman vs Superman not taking off that way is a major disappointment.

WB shouldn't be looking at what this movie does, but what it could have done and failed to do. That alone justifies major changes.

Well said. The fact that there are doubts about Batman v Superman not hitting a billion says a lot. At this point is it realistic that Deadpool is going to gross more domestically than BvS?

Did I miss something, why are you "hoping that it can sputter out and crash"?

It is posts like yours that I really don't understand. :huh:

Why would I want this to succeed? I love all things relating to superheroes and the idea that studios can churn out something like this on the biggest scale possible and still make a nice profit saddens me. We've been living in a superhero film renaissance, a true golden age with both the MCU and the Nolan trilogy setting a very high bar, and now we have a movie featuring the two most iconic superheroes of all time and it's no better than a Transformers film. The characters and fans deserve so much better.
 
Yeah, with Winter Soldier some countries got it about a month before the US.

That's why I'm saying - people need to understand the numbers instead of spouting them like parrots.
 
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I don't know why people would want this to fail, even if you hate the movie (I haven't seen it), a failure for a super-hyped film of this nature would not be good for the genre as a whole. I'm not surprised at these numbers considering all the markets it opened in. I'd be shocked if this film doesn't reach that magic number of 1 b. Congrats to WB on that end.

Marvel will be fine. Marvel is the Coke of comic book films. Their brand is so trusted at this point audiences know they're going to get something they like. Audiences are savvy to differentiate between what they like and don't like with superheroes by now. We've come to that point. You'll have the idiots who will scream the sky is falling when a CBM fails but that effects nothing. It's only when every comic book movie winds up like this film is when you have a serious problem.

God knows after people see this depressing ass movie they need some level of brightness and Civil War will be that. Even Civil War at it's most dramatic is still happier than whatever is in this movie.
 
I wasn't disagreeing. I was just clarifying what Wylie Times might have meant. That said, positive buzz from other countries could help the film's domestic opening to be higher than BvS.

Yeah, I know there are a number of reasons for it, but that point is Civil War is still unlikely to open to the same numbers as BvS.

How it does long term will be dependent on how much audiences enjoy it (just like BvS).

I'll be SHOCKED if the critical reception to Civil War isn't significantly better than Batman v Superman.
 
TFA has an audience score of 89%, it should have a multiplier smaller than 2.7x but its multiplier is at 3.7x and increasing. Why is that?
 
Marvel will be fine. Marvel is the Coke of comic book films. Their brand is so trusted at this point audiences know they're going to get something they like. Audiences are savvy to differentiate between what they like and don't like with superheroes by now. We've come to that point. You'll have the idiots who will scream the sky is falling when a CBM fails but that effects nothing. It's only when every comic book movie winds up like this film is when you have a serious problem.

God knows after people see this depressing ass movie they need some level of brightness and Civil War will be that. Even Civil War at it's most dramatic is still happier than whatever is in this movie.

yup after i read the dark knight returns and watchmen i said WOW i need to pick up a spiderman comic now:cwink:
 
People were also saying BvS making a billion was a given a few months ago :funny: I'm a huge MCU fan but I'd rather wait and see until we get closer to May. I agree that a billion would be the floor in expectations for CW though.
 
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I don't know why people would want this to fail, even if you hate the movie (I haven't seen it), a failure for a super-hyped film of this nature would not be good for the genre as a whole. I'm not surprised at these numbers considering all the markets it opened in. I'd be shocked if this film doesn't reach that magic number of 1 b. Congrats to WB on that end.

This movie isn't good for the genre.
 
Everything we've seen is about "as expected", and even came out on the low side of the tracking, as the high end was projected at $185.

The Monday number will be the most telling. Furious 7 had a -57.7% drop. The percentage for this if Sunday is really 37 (which I think it will be closer to 35 when the actuals come in), if the Monday number is under 15M this film is in big trouble.
 
Well said. The fact that there are doubts about Batman v Superman not hitting a billion says a lot. At this point is it realistic that Deadpool is going to gross more domestically than BvS?



Why would I want this to succeed? I love all things relating to superheroes and the idea that studios can churn out something like this on the biggest scale possible and still make a nice profit saddens me. We've been living in a superhero film renaissance, a true golden age with both the MCU and the Nolan trilogy setting a very high bar, and now we have a movie featuring the two most iconic superheroes of all time and it's no better than a Transformers film. The characters and fans deserve so much better.

Well said. The fact that something so pathetic and mediocre is going to get rewarded irks me to no end. No one cares about Transformers, but the fact that Batman and Superman are being reduced to that is disappointing.
 
Yeah, I know there are a number of reasons for it, but that point is Civil War is still unlikely to open to the same numbers as BvS.

How it does long term will be dependent on how much audiences enjoy it (just like BvS).

I'll be SHOCKED if the critical reception to Civil War isn't significantly better than Batman v Superman.

You mean world wide or domestic? WW of course it won't as reasons explained. Domestic again is going to be dependent on if it performs like a Captain America movie or an Avengers movie. Iron Man 3 opened higher than this domestically so yes it can beat the domestic numbers. But We're over a month away and a lot can happen.
 
Marvel will be fine. Marvel is the Coke of comic book films. Their brand is so trusted at this point audiences know they're going to get something they like. Audiences are savvy to differentiate between what they like and don't like with superheroes by now. We've come to that point. You'll have the idiots who will scream the sky is falling when a CBM fails but that effects nothing. It's only when every comic book movie winds up like this film is when you have a serious problem.

God knows after people see this depressing ass movie they need some level of brightness and Civil War will be that. Even Civil War at it's most dramatic is still happier than whatever is in this movie.

We don't know that because none of us have seen the movie.

The Russo Brothers have described Civil War as a psychological thriller.
 
You mean world wide or domestic? WW of course it won't as reasons explained. Domestic again is going to be dependent on if it performs like a Captain America movie or an Avengers movie. Iron Man 3 opened higher than this domestically so yes it can beat the domestic numbers. But We're over a month away and a lot can happen.

Worldwide.

It's got a shot at Batman v Superman's domestic numbers. If only because of the addition of Iron Man, Spider-Man, and the positive buzz surrounding the film.
 
I am quite frankly shocked that a movie starring two of the most famous superheroes of all time is making a lot of money. I never expected this development. :o
 
Is there any projection for how much thus film could drop next weekend?
 
Well said. The fact that something so pathetic and mediocre is going to get rewarded irks me to no end. No one cares about Transformers, but the fact that Batman and Superman are being reduced to that is disappointing.
Its' worriying. Transformers was mediocre and rewarded and what was the result? Just look at the quality of the sequels. A good box office for a (IMO of course, I agree with most reviews) mediocre film is a ticket for more mediocre films in the future.
 
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