BvS Batman v Superman - Reviews Thread [TAG SPOILERS] - Part 1

[OutOfBoose]

There's a range of humour, the stuff in BvS was quite subtle, it's unlikely to strike chords with people who need punchlines with the sophistication of a mallet to be found funny.

Exactly. Humour was similar to TDK trilogy. Subtle, not in style of Whedon or J.J. Abrams.

 

[daddydivine]

There's a range of humour, the stuff in BvS was quite subtle, it's unlikely to strike chords with people who need punchlines with the sophistication of a mallet to be found funny.

Or you know... it could actually BE funny?TDK was subtle AND funny.

 

[lukebrodyg]

Or you know... it could actually BE funny?TDK was subtle AND funny.

That's subjective just like everything else we're discussing.

 

[daddydivine]

That's subjective just like everything else we're discussing.

Hey just showing my subjectivenism to a previous post that somehow came off as if only small minded people didn't get the subtle humor.

BvS definitely didn't make me laugh but I did smile at some awesome moments.

 

[Kobra]

Whedon's humor is not that much different from what i heard on a daily basis in highschool

 

[daddydivine]

Whedon's humor is not that much different from what i heard on a daily basis in highschool

You must have really enjoyed highschool if you got to laugh that much. I envy you. My highschool days was like BvS... kinda gloomy... with some awesome moments.

 

[Kobra]

You must have really enjoyed highschool if you got to laugh that much. I envy you.

If the movie came out when i was 15 i would have had a blast. In my 20's, not so much.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Hey just showing my subjectivenism to a previous post that somehow came off as if only small minded people didn't get the subtle humor.

BvS definitely didn't make me laugh but I did smile at some awesome moments.

TDK trilogy didn't make me laugh either. Maybe smile in a few places.

 

[daddydivine]

TDK trilogy didn't make me laugh either. Maybe smile in a few places.

That Joker nurse scene and the Joker pencil scene had the audience in my theater cracking up.

 

[moviefreak]

The humours were not apparent in BvS --it is by design.It is tonally similar to Batman Begins/TDK. These moments are not meant to elicit laughters, at most you're just supposed to smile and of course some people will miss the references a bit. i don't mind that setup as long as the film is entertaining -- which it was.

 

[mrmajors60]

i enjoyed the movie. yes it had some issues. and they could have used a different story/villain/setup for JL but I went into the movie expecting silver surfer level bad. I also went in fulling expecting this to be a set up movie, and I believe going into it with those 2 things in mind (specifically the set up movie aspect) allowed me to enjoy it. would I have preferred more of a worlds finest team up, sure. but we all should have not come in expecting that, would they have been better off basically doing jl origins sure. I will say this fill does not deserve the reviews it is getting, it should basically be right in line with man of steel. I would give this movie like a b/b- or like a 7/10

 

[OutOfBoose]

That Joker nurse scene and the Joker pencil scene had the audience in my theater cracking up.

I remember a few chuckles on the pencil scene. Same with the nurse and the trigger. In TDKR people laughed more on unintended stuff like WHERESTHETIRGGER.

On BvS people chuckled on the cherry candy scene, chuckled a bit on Alfred jokes. Both made me smile.

 

[DeadPresident]

Exactly. Humour was similar to TDK trilogy. Subtle, not in style of Whedon or J.J. Abrams.

Yeah, it was fairly low key. Which is preferable in a movie where the subject matter is a deconstruction and analysis of humanity's reaction to a godlike being and that godlike being's attempted coexistence. Not exactly bazinga territory.

Or you know... it could actually BE funny?TDK was subtle AND funny.

TDK had the Joker in it, obviously it was going to be funny in a lot of ways. Compare BvS to BB or TDKR and you're closer to the correct tone.

TDK trilogy didn't make me laugh either. Maybe smile in a few places.

Yeah, I think the most one gets from those is chuckles here and there.

In TDKR for instance there's the scene where Alfred tells Bruce about the letter he burned, and Bruce concludes their conversation with "Goodbye, Alfred", and the scene cuts to Bruce waking up in the morning and the first thing he does is go "Alfred...?" down the corridor. I find that stuff way more engaging than the run of the mill "knock down a door" it's so blatant stuff.

The bit in one of the MCU films where the Avengers trash talk Loki and Thor's response is "That's my brother!", they reply with "He murdered X number of people" and he goes "...He's adopted" is also good. The more subtle the humour the better, IMO. In the CBM worlds where crazy and significant things happen like alien races trying to exterminate humanity I think subtle but clever humour is better. TWS>Avengers and TDK/BvS>Green Lantern is more what I find funny, I'll take "On your left" all day before I have to hear Cap say "And Hulk...smash!" ever again.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

But majority of those bloggers gave the movie 'average scores' which was fair. This movie should at least be given 50-60% RT instead of 29. 29%RT isn't average, it's in crappy territory and this film is better than that.

No, BvS deserves the score it got. It's a "turn your brain off" kind of film. It's wrapped up in the "aren't we so serious" package but has the story and execution of a Schumacher Batman film.

 

[DeadPresident]

The people laughing during this movie have the sophistication of a lobotomy ice pick. You would need a lobotomy to bring any joy to this dreadfully somber, joyless vacuum of a script.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion my sophisticated and verbose friend

 

[OutOfBoose]

In TDKR for instance there's the scene where Alfred tells Bruce about the letter he burned, and Bruce concludes their conversation with "Goodbye, Alfred", and the scene cuts to Bruce waking up in the morning and the first thing he does is go "Alfred...?" down the corridor. I find that stuff way more engaging than the run of the mill "knock down a door" it's so blatant stuff.

You choose as example probably the worst case of humor in the entire trilogy. It's cute and funny, but completely kills previous scene, where Bruce and Alfred have a serious conversation.

The bit in one of the MCU films where the Avengers trash talk Loki and Thor's response is "That's my brother!", they reply with "He murdered X number of people" and he goes "...He's adopted" is also good. The more subtle the humour the better, IMO. In the CBM worlds where crazy and significant things happen like alien races trying to exterminate humanity I think subtle but clever humour is better. TWS>Avengers and TDK/BvS>Green Lantern is more what I find funny, I'll take "On your left" all day before I have to hear Cap say "And Hulk...smash!" ever again.

Sure, it works for Marvel movies. And it was funny and people laughed. I like both approaches. I think we will get more of that in Suicide Squad. Maybe a bit darker humor, but still. So DCEU can be both serious and funny. Depends on what's presented as a setup and characters involved. Tone is important too. What kind of humor is allowed depends on it a lot.

 

[OutOfBoose]

No, BvS deserves the score it got. It's a "turn your brain off" kind of film. It's wrapped up in the "aren't we so serious" package but has the story and execution of a Schumacher Batman film.

One absurd claim after another... Looks like people indeed turned their brains off and the film got the score it got, from critics at least. I wish they actually used brain.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

No, BvS deserves the score it got. It's a "turn your brain off" kind of film. It's wrapped up in the "aren't we so serious" package but has the story and execution of a Schumacher Batman film.

is that why there are pages of people explaining to others what is what ? I think you were expecting a typical "turn your brain off" film, but got something completely different.

 

[DeadPresident]

You choose as example probably the worst case of humor in the entire trilogy. It's cute and funny, but completely kills previous scene, where Bruce and Alfred have a serious conversation.

Haha, fair enough, I just found the contrast humourous. There was a lot packed into those short phrases for me, the notion that despite them having an altercation a few hours before, Bruce's dependence on Alfred's presence was still very much reflexive.

Sure, it works for Marvel movies. And it was funny and people laughed. I like both approaches. I think we will get more of that in Suicide Squad. Maybe a bit darker humor, but still. So DCEU can be both serious and funny. Depends on what's presented as a setup and characters involved. Tone is important too. What kind of humor is allowed depends on it a lot.

Yeah, I think a good balance is necessary irrespective of which movie it is. I get turned off by any humour that addresses the audience as though they were toddlers. I get it in a movie like Deadpool where there's gratuitous breaking of the 4th wall, but when a movie almost starts explaining why the punchline is funny it sort of loses me. If a joke is just a pun or the intellectual equivalent of a "That's what she said" comeback it's kind of tiresome IMO.

I agree the tone is a good determiner, in some movies (like Deadpool) the jokes can all be verbal and really over the top and it works, but I hope for something like SS it'll be a bit more situational or non-verbal, something along the lines of how they utilized Boomerang's beer/energy drink moment in the trailer.

No, BvS deserves the score it got. It's a "turn your brain off" kind of film. It's wrapped up in the "aren't we so serious" package but has the story and execution of a Schumacher Batman film.

Perhaps you should've turned your brain on during the movie...?

 

[JOE]

4/10 for me, and the majority of those 4 points are from Affleck. I really hope they make his solo movie, and SOON.

 

[OutOfBoose]

is that why there are pages of people explaining to others what is what ? I think you were expecting a typical "turn your brain off" film, but got something completely different.

Seriously... Endless conversations on meaning, on themes, on certain plot details, on trying to figure out things. Nah, stupid.

 

[Petelancer]

After seeing it again, Supes really is the ***** in the film entirely. First his loss against Bats (the best part is the ditsy sounding girl a few rows behind loudly whispering why doesnt he just laser batman and burn his ass up; sad that this audience member has more story sense and logic than the worthless piece of humanity behind the film -- snyder)...

Secondly and most amazingly, where was the knock down drag out fist fight betweeb doomsday and superman... You know the one that happens in the comics?? Not the stupid **** one we got on screen of Supes being pelted around like a fly while wonder woman does most of the fighting

How can anyone seriously think crap-Sack Snyder is an actual comic fan when one of THE most iconic Superman battles is reduced to Supes being swatted around like a ***** yet again?? Is it too hard to ask for a Superman on live action to actually kick some ass for once. Superman 2 he totally does that!! The fight choreographyof the metropolis battle and humanity that Reeves displays is simply epic!! Supes is able to hold the three villains at bay but at the same time shows just how much he cares for humanity. Snyder couldnt snd doesnt come close

 

[antoineflemming]

No, BvS deserves the score it got. It's a "turn your brain off" kind of film. It's wrapped up in the "aren't we so serious" package but has the story and execution of a Schumacher Batman film.

I'm guessing you don't understand how RT works. RT doesn't reflect a 29/100 film score. It simply means that 29% of critics gave the movie a fresh score. Take a look at the average score. That's a better indication of what critics think about the film. The average score is 5/10.

 

[nightwing06]

2 of the most iconic DC comics characters finally meet up on the big screen in
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice to duke it out.....but is it any good? Yes and
no
Director Zack Snyder gets some things right linking his Man of Steel film to
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice in a terrific opening sequence showing Bruce Wayne's/Batman's point of view of when Superman
battled Zod over Metropolis ,which along with a Kryptonian terraformer caused massive death and destruction
Also there is a great summary of what drives Batman

Ben Affleck is as great as i thought he would be as Batman,hitting all the right notes,along with his great chemistry with
Jeremy Irons as Alfred also quite good in his portrayal of the loyal father like figure in Wayne's life
Henry Cavill is still serviceable as Superman but i wanted to see more range from him.I truly hope i see more of it
in the DC films to come and a further exploration of the Batman and Superman relationship.
Gal Gadot is fine as Wonder Woman and i admit right here i went into super geek mode when she does a a
certain thing during an action sequence
Amy Adams does well as Lois Lane ,the investigative reporter taking risks worldwide,and also the loving girlfriend of the man
of steel.
There are some really glorious and exciting moments in the film even if you're the slightest Comic Book fan
I had no worries about the action sequences because Snyder can direct the hell out of an action sequence
The fight between the two titans has some great moments

The bad stuff:What's odd i was kind of digging Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor when he first appears he's calculating
and you know he's up to no good.Then he starts doing this odd sniveling thing with a slight moan ,that soon goes to manic.
I did like the beyond sinister things he did that kind of shocked me,but his portrayal would have worked as a different DC villain
but as Luthor......NO !!

There are plot holes and a couple of things are left unexplained

The flow of the movie is definitely off at times.I can best describe it like this you're at an amusement park and you know what rides you want to
get on but you keep getting distracted by other little amusements in the park,and you only get to a few rides that you wanted to get on

The final battle which was partially ruined by a trailer months ago has it's moments but of course would have worked better
if i didnt know it was coming

So is Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice worth seeing in the theatre:YES
Do i think it's a good gateway to the upcoming films:YES

Not a perfect film,and it's the first in awhile that i have had to struggle with grading in awhile

Scale of 1-10 a 7½

 

[antoineflemming]

2 of the most iconic DC comics characters finally meet up on the big screen in
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice to duke it out.....but is it any good? Yes and
no
Director Zack Snyder gets some things right linking his Man of Steel film to
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice in a terrific opening sequence showing Bruce Wayne's/Batman's point of view of when Superman
battled Zod over Metropolis ,which along with a Kryptonian terraformer caused massive death and destruction
Also there is a great summary of what drives Batman

Ben Affleck is as great as i thought he would be as Batman,hitting all the right notes,along with his great chemistry with
Jeremy Irons as Alfred also quite good in his portrayal of the loyal father like figure in Wayne's life
Henry Cavill is still serviceable as Superman but i wanted to see more range from him.I truly hope i see more of it
in the DC films to come and a further exploration of the Batman and Superman relationship.
Gal Gadot is fine as Wonder Woman and i admit right here i went into super geek mode when she does a a
certain thing during an action sequence
Amy Adams does well as Lois Lane ,the investigative reporter taking risks worldwide,and also the loving girlfriend of the man
of steel.
There are some really glorious and exciting moments in the film even if you're the slightest Comic Book fan
I had no worries about the action sequences because Snyder can direct the hell out of an action sequence
The fight between the two titans has some great moments

The bad stuff:What's odd i was kind of digging Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor when he first appears he's calculating
and you know he's up to no good.Then he starts doing this odd sniveling thing with a slight moan ,that soon goes to manic.
I did like the beyond sinister things he did that kind of shocked me,but his portrayal would have worked as a different DC villain
but as Luthor......NO !!

There are plot holes and a couple of things are left unexplained

The flow of the movie is definitely off at times.I can best describe it like this you're at an amusement park and you know what rides you want to
get on but you keep getting distracted by other little amusements in the park,and you only get to a few rides that you wanted to get on

The final battle which was partially ruined by a trailer months ago has it's moments but of course would have worked better
if i didnt know it was coming

So is Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice worth seeing in the theatre:YES
Do i think it's a good gateway to the upcoming films:YES

Not a perfect film,and it's the first in awhile that i have had to struggle with grading in awhile

Scale of 1-10 a 7½

That's my score as well.