Black Panther The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 2

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[Dboi]

The only difference is GOTG 2 used RED Weapon 8K camera. The one and only time they've used it. So its going to lend towards a better look.

Black Panther is using the same camera as the most recent Marvel films Arri Alexa. Coogler used the same on Creed so I'm confident we can get some great shots. However, hopefully they let Morrison, Coogler, etc have input on what type of color grade for this movie.

Where does it state that Coogler was using the same camera he used in Creed?

 

[RockSP]

So apparently Sam Jackson wanted to be in the BP movie: http://www.vulture.com/2017/02/samu...-black-panther.html?mid=twitter-share-vulture

Lol @ "the only black character". So Falcon & War Machine don't count?

 

[an_ewok]

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Samuel L. Jackson wants to be in every movie.

 

[TyBig]

SLJ is in every movie jks

When I went to the movies a few weeks ago he was in like 3 trailers lol

 

[DeadStroke]

Where does it state that Coogler was using the same camera he used in Creed?

https://shotonwhat.com/creed-2015

Doctor Strange and Civil War used the same camera.
https://shotonwhat.com/cameras/arri-alexa-xt-plus-camera

Same camera here as well.

 

[Wylie Times]

So apparently Sam Jackson wanted to be in the BP movie: http://www.vulture.com/2017/02/samu...-black-panther.html?mid=twitter-share-vulture

Lol @ "the only black character". So Falcon & War Machine don't count?

I really think he was joking but it went over a lot of peoples heads.

 

[Chesterfield]

https://shotonwhat.com/creed-2015

Doctor Strange and Civil War used the same camera.
https://shotonwhat.com/cameras/arri-alexa-xt-plus-camera

Same camera here as well.

Good investigative work there. I just hope Coogler and Morrison can make the film look gorgeous. From the list in the link GoTg looked the best visually. Let's hope BP elevates things to new levels.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Sure, the camera matters, but there will be color-correction anyway (plus, a lot is post-production). I don't think things need to look as vibrant as Guardians, though, but the concept art certainly didn't suggest things would be dull.

 

[legendkillin]

Michael B.Jordan was at the NBA All Star this weekend. I wonder if he just had some time off. He can't fully grow dreads, so I wonder if his current hair is what they go with or if they add hair?

 

[DeadStroke]

Good investigative work there. I just hope Coogler and Morrison can make the film look gorgeous. From the list in the link GoTg looked the best visually. Let's hope BP elevates things to new levels.

I just want a very distinct look from the rest of the Marvel films. They really have a chance to make it look and feel special.

Michael B.Jordan was at the NBA All Star this weekend. I wonder if he just had some time off. He can't fully grow dreads, so I wonder if his current hair is what they go with or if they add hair?

I'm guessing he wears extensions in the movie.

I also noticed the trainer for Creed and BP was sitting next to him at the game.

 

[DeadStroke]

How Rachel Morrison created this beautiful look of a 1940s film with a digital camera.

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/01/cinematographer-rachel-morrison-mudbound-sundance-2017-1201774117/

Both Dee and I set out to shoot “Mudbound” on film. Everything about this project screamed to be analog. But our budget was so tight that any added cost came at the expense of something else – shooting days, extras, production design assets etc. We did extensive tests to determine if it was worth it. We tested both anamorphic and spherical 16mm on the Arri 416 (which to this day is still my favorite camera ever designed) as well as anamorphic and spherical lenses on 35mm vs the Arri Alexa shooting Arri Raw. We were working with Fotokem locally in New Orleans and I asked our dailies colorist Illya Laney to add a grain emulation curve to the digital media, match the shots to each other, and then reduce saturation and contrast by about 15-20%.

Lets hope Marvel let her do her work here.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think marvel is visually making changes, gotg and doctor strange are both visually great. And spiderman looks really vibrant.

 

[Chesterfield]

I just want a very distinct look from the rest of the Marvel films. They really have a chance to make it look and feel special.

I'm guessing he wears extensions in the movie.

I also noticed the trainer for Creed and BP was sitting next to him at the game.

Yeah, Calliet. He's also the physical trainer for both Jordan and Boseman for the BP movie. As for Jordans hair, yep, he'll have hair wig/extentions for the film.

 

[Darepool]

I just want a very distinct look from the rest of the Marvel films. They really have a chance to make it look and feel special.

Did Doctor Strange look like Winter Soldier to you? Did Winter Soldier look like Guardians? I think there was in fact a distinct difference...Perhaps it's a matter of degrees.

 

[Dboi]

Did Doctor Strange look like Winter Soldier to you? Did Winter Soldier look like Guardians? I think there was in fact a distinct difference...Perhaps it's a matter of degrees.

In terms of colour grading, they kind of did look the same but when it comes to visual imagery with the use of CGI then thats a different case. Here are images of winter soldier and Doctor Strange comparing the two

You can still feel a slightly flat colour palette with both films. At this point, I expect the same fate with BP but that doesn't mean it will be a good film regardless

 

[Darepool]

Now compare it with shots in Kamar-Taj and you realize that the difference is also technique and not just color grading. That is basically the look in general with a lot of digitally shot films, not just Marvel. It's only in the last few years that the technology could render skin tones to look more 'natural'. It's evolving pretty quickly. Red is constantly pushing forward with their tech.

 

[Panacea]

I really think he was joking but it went over a lot of peoples heads.

Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.

 

[Dboi]

The scene in Kamar Taj was shot in film which is why it looked the way it did with the yellow like colour. Besides there are films that were digitally shot that didn't really look so digital

For example Drive which was shot in 2011 look really good despite being shot on film and had a way lower budget than any Marvel film. You can tell the colour difference and the increase in saturation for the look of the film that makes it look cinematic

I would have preferred for them to use the Red camera but hey its the director's decision of how the film looks I guess. Maybe the color grading of the Marvel films are done on purpose look more realistic or something

 

[Darepool]

The scene in Kamar Taj was shot in film which is why it looked the way it did with the yellow like colour. Besides there are films that were digitally shot that didn't really look so digital

For example Drive which was shot in 2011 look really good despite being shot on film and had a way lower budget than any Marvel film. You can tell the colour difference and the increase in saturation for the look of the film that makes it look cinematic

I would have preferred for them to use the Red camera but hey its the director's decision of how the film looks I guess. Maybe to make the film look more realistic or something

See as someone who has shot stuff on digital and film, I still see the 'digital' look in Drive because of the more 'washed out' skin tones. The image is super clean and crisp and still lacks the emulsion richness of film. It may feel more 'cinematic', but it's still digital.

And I thought only the street scenes were shot on film in Strange, either way, you can tell the DP did some interesting things with fluorescents. Also it doesn't take away from my point that "all the films have the same look' generalization is not entirely accurate and there are in fact differences. As I said, perhaps it's a matter of degrees.

 

[DeadStroke]

The scene in Kamar Taj was shot in film which is why it looked the way it did with the yellow like colour. Besides there are films that were digitally shot that didn't really look so digital

For example Drive which was shot in 2011 look really good despite being shot on film and had a way lower budget than any Marvel film. You can tell the colour difference and the increase in saturation for the look of the film that makes it look cinematic

I would have preferred for them to use the Red camera but hey its the director's decision of how the film looks I guess. Maybe the color grading of the Marvel films are done on purpose look more realistic or something

I think its to fit the whole episodic feel of the MCU. Which is fine. The movies have been very good.

The DP would have definitely preferred film judging by her comments in that article I posted.

I'm just hoping they are letting color grade stand out like from the pics I posted.

 

[Chesterfield]

Some of Black Panther will be shot in IMAX.

http://www.newsarama.com/33267-star-wars-the-last-jedi-shot-partially-in-imax-as-part-of-new-overall-deal-which-includes-marvel-studios-films.html

Following J.J. Abrams’ iconic use of IMAX® cameras in Star Wars: The Force Awakens, IMAX and Lucasfilm have announced that director Rian Johnson has captured key sequences of Star Wars: The Last Jedi using IMAX’s extremely high-resolution cameras, delivering IMAX audiences greater scope and increased image quality in IMAX’s exclusive aspect ratio for a uniquely immersive experience.

The news of Johnson leveraging IMAX cameras for key sequences of Star Wars: The Last Jedi comes as part of an extended slate deal announcement between IMAX and The Walt Disney Studios, a division of The Walt Disney Company. Building on their existing long-standing relationship, the two companies announced today that they have extended their multi-faceted agreement with a new multi-picture deal — beginning this year and extending through 2019 —that includes the much-anticipated live-action and animated tentpole releases from Walt Disney Animation Studios, Pixar, Marvel and Lucasfilm.

Highlights of the agreement include IMAX’s involvement in the release of Lucasfilm’s untitled Indiana Jones film, untitled Han Solo Star Wars anthology film, Star Wars: The Last Jedi and Star Wars: Episode IX; Marvel’s Black Panther, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Captain Marvel, Avengers: Infinity War and the untitled Avengers sequel, which as previously announced will both be shot entirely with IMAX cameras by the Russo Brothers; Disney’s Beauty and the Beast, A Wrinkle in Time and Mulan; Pixar’s The Incredibles 2 and Toy Story 4 and Walt Disney Animation Studios’ Wreck-It Ralph sequel.

 

[TyBig]

Some of Black Panther will be shot in IMAX.

http://www.newsarama.com/33267-star-wars-the-last-jedi-shot-partially-in-imax-as-part-of-new-overall-deal-which-includes-marvel-studios-films.html

Following J.J. Abrams’ iconic use of IMAX® cameras in Star Wars: The Force Awakens, IMAX and Lucasfilm have announced that director Rian Johnson has captured key sequences of Star Wars: The Last Jedi using IMAX’s extremely high-resolution cameras, delivering IMAX audiences greater scope and increased image quality in IMAX’s exclusive aspect ratio for a uniquely immersive experience.

The news of Johnson leveraging IMAX cameras for key sequences of Star Wars: The Last Jedi comes as part of an extended slate deal announcement between IMAX and The Walt Disney Studios, a division of The Walt Disney Company. Building on their existing long-standing relationship, the two companies announced today that they have extended their multi-faceted agreement with a new multi-picture deal — beginning this year and extending through 2019 —that includes the much-anticipated live-action and animated tentpole releases from Walt Disney Animation Studios, Pixar, Marvel and Lucasfilm.

Highlights of the agreement include IMAX’s involvement in the release of Lucasfilm’s untitled Indiana Jones film, untitled Han Solo Star Wars anthology film, Star Wars: The Last Jedi and Star Wars: Episode IX; Marvel’s Black Panther, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Captain Marvel, Avengers: Infinity War and the untitled Avengers sequel, which as previously announced will both be shot entirely with IMAX cameras by the Russo Brothers; Disney’s Beauty and the Beast, A Wrinkle in Time and Mulan; Pixar’s The Incredibles 2 and Toy Story 4 and Walt Disney Animation Studios’ Wreck-It Ralph sequel.

Interesting. I didn't even know they were doing another Indiana Jones movie

 

[Vartha]

Interesting. I didn't even know they were doing another Indiana Jones movie

Rumored to be the last one with Harrison