Birds of Prey BoP Box Office Thread

[kguillou]

I agree about TSS, adding a “the” to the title is not a particularly good indicator to the general public that this is a different SS than the last one. They really should give it a cool B-movie sounding title like the DTV Suicide Squad:Hell to Pay (which was a really good animated film btw).

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Re the title of SS, given the reception of BoP, clearly the answer is to digitally remove Harley from all her scenes, replace her with Killer Croc, and rename the whole affair Sewercide Squad.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

I agree about TSS, adding a “the” to the title is not a particularly good indicator to the general public that this is a different SS than the last one. They really should give it a cool B-movie sounding title like the DTV Suicide Squad:Hell to Pay (which was a really good animated film btw).

One of my favourites Love the way it ties into JL: The Flashpoint Paradox.

Re the title of SS, given the reception of BoP, clearly the answer is to digitally remove Harley from all her scenes, replace her with Killer Croc, and rename the whole affair Sewercide Squad.

 

[Micromind]

I think there are surprisingly lot of big budget (and medium budget) movies released in Feb this year or it's nothing new ? I didn't expect Feb month to be this packed.

Edit: These were some of the movies released in Feb, 2019.

‘Miss Bala’ (February 1, 2019)

‘The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part’ (February 8, 2019)
‘Cold Pursuit’ (February 8, 2019)

'Alita: Battle Angel’ (February 14, 2019)
‘Happy Death Day 2U’ (February 14, 2019)

‘How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World’ (February 22, 2019)

 

[SomeOldGuy]

OS update. I think he’s low on the WW final.

 

[Micromind]

OS update. I think he’s low on the WW final.

Agreed, that's a low number as the movie is doing reasonably well Overseas, it's in Top 4 movies at Box Office in most big markets.

 

[Micromind]

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Because it's a reboot, they're calling 'The Suicide Squad'. At least according to producers. Lol

This is probably worse than 'Batman Begins' being the title of the Nolan reboot

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

‘The Invisible Man’ To Rule Weekend Box Office With Possible $30 Million – Deadline

Warner Bros.’ Birds of Prey could file 5th with $3.9M at 3,124, -43% for a running total in weekend 4 of $77.7M.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

It’s done...

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

My father died two weeks before we started filming and my dog died two weeks before the end.

Jeez.

 

[chicagodave]

Here's a question is it possible this won't even make it to 90mill domestically?

 

[Micromind]

Because it's a reboot, they're calling 'The Suicide Squad'. At least according to producers. Lol

This is probably worse than 'Batman Begins' being the title of the Nolan reboot

At this stage, WB saying it's a reboot means nothing because they said that BoP was not connected to SS and was it's own thing, which was not the truth, so I would just go by how Margot described the 3 movies (SS, BoP, TSS) as movies that show Harley Quinn at 3 different points of time in her life.

 

[Micromind]

Here's a question is it possible this won't even make it to 90mill domestically?

Yeah, It's not looking good, I expected it to earn at least $120 mil in US. Having said that, I think the situation is not as bad as some think it is, because compared to some movies listed below (some of which were established franchises, and they were given big marketing budgets, but they severely under-performed), BoP has smaller budget, and was received better Critically and by general audiences.

* The Predator (2018) made only $51 mil in US. (budget: $88 mil.)

* Terminator : Genisys (2015) made only $89 mil in US (budget: $155 mil.)

* Terminator Dark Fate (2015) made only $62 mil in US (budget: $185 mil.)

* Dark Phoenix (2019) made only $66 mil in US (budget: $200 mil.)

* Lone Ranger (2013) made only $89 mil in US (budget: $215 mil.)

* Ben Affleck's Live By Night (2017) made only $10 mil in US (budget: $65 mil.)

Edit: I hope that BoP will reach near $85 mil.

 

[Greenlite]

Looking at 85M and 125M os for 210M with Japan to come (with the virus)

 

[Greenlite]

With a 1/4 budget of that disastrous flop called Green Lanternwhich made 200M WW

 

[TheGuy]

Margot is on record saying that the hyena cost a lot. Perhaps removing Bruce from the movie might have decreased its total budget?

 

[Micromind]

The reshoots they did to add more fight scenes with John Wick director, cost them another $10 mil. Otherwise, there's no reason for this budget ($85 mil.) as the movie was shot in L.A. and most of it was on WB's own lot (the sets for the movie were built inside WB's Studio sound stages), they didn't even had to go anywhere, for comparison, The Predator's (2018) budget was $88 mil and that movie had lot of special effects.

 

[Omegabat]

I'm startled by the spin going around here. GL, Live by Night, Dark Phoenix and Charlie's Angels are the points of reference here? really? isn't that alone an indirect admission?

At the end of the day we wont see a dime of this money, what matters for any fan is that a movie does well enough to get a sequel. This is not getting a sequel with those numbers. Will Harley show up in more films? yeah cause Suicide Squad is still in production but the other characters are virtually unlikely to show up.

 

[Micromind]

I'm startled by the spin going around here. GL, Live by Night, Dark Phoenix and Charlie's Angels are the points of reference here? really? isn't that alone an indirect admission?

At the end of the day we wont see a dime of this money, what matters for any fan is that a movie does well enough to get a sequel. This is not getting a sequel with those numbers. Will Harley show up in more films? yeah cause Suicide Squad is still in production but the other characters are virtually unlikely to show up.

We already know that this movie is not doing well at Box Office, instead of generalizing it as a "bomb", which is usually reserved for movies that are big budget, event movies with mega marketing budgets (BoP does not fit in that category) like Terminator Dark Fate, The Predator and Dark Phoenix, we are looking at BoP as under-performing movie that can still break even (when we take into account DVD / Bluray sales, merchandise sales, like what WB did in case of Batman Begins) as it will finish close to break even point.

As for the sequel, I don't think it will get a sequel, but we may see the characters that were introduced again. Also, not every movie needs a sequel.

This is not just my opinion, look at this post -

Truthfully, the film looked cheaply made and awful from the ads. While the reviews have been pretty good, it didn't seem like an event film ala Aquaman, Wonder Woman , and Joker.

It didn't have that, "let's rush to the theater to see it!" quality. I'm in no rush to see it in theaters ,though I'll eventually get around to seeing it one way or another.

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a second life on blu ray and streaming where people discover it and like it .

 

[Micromind]

 

[Omegabat]

We already know that this movie is not doing well at Box Office, instead of generalizing it as a "bomb", which is usually reserved for movies that are big budget, event movies with mega marketing budgets (BoP does not fit in that category) like Terminator Dark Fate, The Predator and Dark Phoenix, we are looking at BoP as under-performing movie that can still break even (when we take into account DVD / Bluray sales, merchandise sales, like what WB did in case of Batman Begins) as it will finish close to break even point.

As for the sequel, I don't think it will get a sequel, but we may see the characters that were introduced again. Also, not every movie needs a sequel.

This is not just my opinion, look at this post -

I dont see any comparison with Batman Begins at all, BVS offers a superior analogy here. For one comic films were not that big when Begins came out and WB was more interested in Harry Potter films being the money earners. Batman Begins was also coming off 2 garbage Bat films that needed to be erased from public memory. Making a Batman Begins comparison is just ridiculous imo when movies like Ant-Man are making major bank. Do you think that WB will be satisfied if the upcoming Batflick makes over twice its budget and some DVD sales but grosses less than Ant-Man? hell no. BB also made most its money domestically and the difference between markets today and then is astronomical. Next to BB BOP is a bomb.

You do make a valid point about the budget and the marketing but remember Joker made a billion little more than a month before BOP. WB sees DC films as cash cows and there is immense pressure on them to succeed. In today's market BOP is a flop.

 

[Filmfreak]

Underperforming is a movie that is still profitable but not as profitable as the studio hoped it would be. Losing money in the theatrical run and struggling to break even in home release is way past that. Let's not sweeten the pill here by trying to compare apples with oranges, namely movies that came out in a whole different era. It's not the biggest box office disaster but it's definitely a flop. And the fact that it can't make money even in a smaller than usual budget makes it worse in my book.

 

[Micromind]

Comic book movies being "Big" nowadays means little when many people have little interest in the followup movie to Suicide Squad, People were still bringing up how bad Suicide Squad was when talking about BoP. I read many reactions online which mentioned that they were not eager to see BoP as it was continuation of story from SS, which many people didn't like. Then there was stupid "woke and SJW" campaign against this movie, which may or may not have worked against it.

Also add to that how Leto's Joker was received (even Joaquin Phoenix's Joker movie was subjected to intense criticism, as movie for Incels, believe it or not, Joker is not popular among some section of general audience) The point being, not many people were looking forward to see Joker in this, few tweets even said that they were going to avoid this movie as it would feature Joker. In short, many were not interested to see this movie for different reasons (remember Sonic vs BoP twitter war ?)

Add to it lackluster marketing by WB and no China release (which all MCU movies get), and you have less then stellar Box office result. The movie was still able to "win" over a section of general audiences and got good ratings from Critics. So, in a way it's a Critical win for WB and that's also important as 4 big budget DC movies didn't do well critically. (MoS, BvS, SS, JL)

After two 1 billion dollar success (Aquaman and Joker), WB can take some revenue loss if it's not a big loss, considering low budget and low marketing costs for this movie, I doubt it will be huge loss to the Studio. In financial terms, it can still break-even, we will see.

 

[Micromind]