Bought/Thought Dec 26th (Spoilers within)

[PhotoJones]

It probably will be though, but not in the same fashion.

You mean like, awesomely bad?

 

[DoomJester]

I think it will be awesome...

I hope the artists are on time... Jiminez, as I remember rolled out most of Infinite Crisis on time, though most of the comics were most likely already "in the can" (I don't know what the comic lingo is). I don't want McNiven pulling a Civil War with ASM. But I'll read Brand New Day. But... if they were going to completely disregard most all previous continuity in the Spidey universe for Brand New Day... my feeling on One More Day (aside from hearing that it was bad) was why read it since we are going back to zero?

But I've been waiting for a chance to read Spidey issues for a while so I'll do it. Will someone clarify something for me-- the three ASM books that run, will they be a single arc or will they be different stories?

 

[PhotoJones]

I think it will be awesome...

Just out of curiosity, what about this sounds awesome to you, exactly?

 

[Doc Destruction]

I have NEVER EVER witnessed such a severe RAPING of a comic character in all my years of reading. I would have preferred death for Parker rather than the absolute sludge they've done to him and his cast over the past 2 years.

Sins Past/Remembered/Disassembled/The Other/Organic webs/New powers/Unmasking/Shooting Aunt May...

Good GOD, just write a freaking SUPERHERO story! How hard can it possibly BE!?!

And a HORRIBLE reference to baby May, who they act as if she's never been born (which she HAS) and a slap in the mouth by reprinting the marriage scenes at the end of the book! If the damn thing was such a curse, you rotten fat prick of an excuse for an EIC, WHY REPRINT IT? To rub it in?

Wow. Just wow.

 

[PhotoJones]

I have NEVER EVER witnessed such a severe RAPING of a comic character in all my years of reading. I would have preferred death for Parker rather than the absolute sludge they've done to him and his cast over the past 2 years.

Sins Past/Remembered/Disassembled/The Other/Organic webs/New powers/Unmasking/Shooting Aunt May...

Good GOD, just write a freaking SUPERHERO story! How hard can it possibly BE!?!

And a HORRIBLE reference to baby May, who they act as if she's never been born (which she HAS) and a slap in the mouth by reprinting the marriage scenes at the end of the book! If the damn thing was such a curse, you rotten fat prick of an excuse for an EIC, WHY REPRINT IT? To rub it in?

Wow. Just wow.

You know...that's probably just a knee-jerk reaction and all, but...I pretty much agree with everything you said there, Doc.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Actually, it's a building torrent of hate from 2 years of pain and suffering, watching my childhood hero be torn to shreds.

My first hero was my father, my second was watching Spider-Man cartoons in the 60's. I've had more dreams where I was clinging to walls than flying.

It makes me sick.

 

[PhotoJones]

Actually, it's a building torrent of hate from 2 years of pain and suffering, watching my childhood hero be torn to shreds.

My first hero was my father, my second was watching Spider-Man cartoons in the 60's. I've had more dreams where I was clinging to walls than flying.

It makes me sick.

It really is disgusting, isn't it? God, what a travesty.

 

[Xofenroht]

Something tells me that Pete and MJ will be back together soon. They left enough openings.

The ending wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

 

[Roughneck]

Dude, we're so past Boxing Day.

Yeah....I didn't look at the page we were on....

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I have NEVER EVER witnessed such a severe RAPING of a comic character in all my years of reading. I would have preferred death for Parker rather than the absolute sludge they've done to him and his cast over the past 2 years.

Sins Past/Remembered/Disassembled/The Other/Organic webs/New powers/Unmasking/Shooting Aunt May...

Good GOD, just write a freaking SUPERHERO story! How hard can it possibly BE!?!

And a HORRIBLE reference to baby May, who they act as if she's never been born (which she HAS) and a slap in the mouth by reprinting the marriage scenes at the end of the book! If the damn thing was such a curse, you rotten fat prick of an excuse for an EIC, WHY REPRINT IT? To rub it in?

Wow. Just wow.

I know. It's like a bad dream we cant wake up from....

 

[Xofenroht]

At least he has his mechanical webshooters back.

 

[DoomJester]

Also, let me post my reviews... my shop just got its books.

Ultimate Power 9
This was a big smash-fest, this whole series was. I thought the art was great, some people really don't like Land's art. Depending on how you feel about smash-fests and Greg Land your mileage will vary greatly. If you have been reading the series you may as well get the last issue. There are three big questions/confusions I have with the issue though.

Overall a good Ultimate Power issue, it won't change your opinion of the series, but it ends it.

[BLACKOUT]Who in the world was the skrull? I don't get that at all. I'm sure that this shouldn't have anything to do with 616 Secret Invasion so I was like "lol wut."[/BLACKOUT]

[BLACKOUT]Power Princess will be coming to the Ultimate Universe![/BLACKOUT]

Teen Titans 54
Another arc ends. It isn't bad, more of the same quality-wise. The story was what you'd expect-- future heroes saying bad stuff will happen and their counterparts not believing them. Of course the bad guys are beaten, but the explanation for what really happened is so confusing. I didn't know what happened, I knew the villains had been pushed back but I didn't know what happened. Also, the "epilogue" was really confusing [BLACKOUT]because it makes it seems that everything that happened will happen again[/BLACKOUT]

Was this a bad issue? No, about par for the course, again, it is the last issue to the arc, so why not pick it up and finish it? It won't change your feeling about the rest of the story, but it ends it, if somewhat confusingly. I'm probably done with Teen Titans for a while.

Batman 672
This was an issue I'm on the fence about. Part of it has some excellent moments, and it looks like Grant Morrison is finally back on to his Black Case Book story threads-- which means that you'll need to go back and read some of his older non-Batman and Son arcs. There is not a lot of action, but a lot happens to keep you occupied mentally, the ending is also really strange. Morrison is trying to set up some threads for his run-- the three Batmen, Batman is going to probably go somewhat crazy, and something is going to happen between Batman and the Jet girl he is dating.

Will this issue create new Batman fans? Dunno... if you are reading Batman then you should get this issue. I can't say that this will get you onboard with Batman though. I enjoyed it, and I'm not regretting buying it.

Captain America 33
Finally something happens in this issue! I really enjoyed this issue, but fail to see why it took this long for Tony Stark to put on his armor, but that was a complaint I had long had with this arc. You can tell from the Bucky/Iron Man who Brubaker's favorite is. I'm sure that's how people who don't like Batman feel when Batman pucnhes out Darkseid or someone. It had me saying "no..." Read it and you'll see what I mean. Still, it was a good issue, made even better because the pace picked up.

Daredevil 103
Good characterization, lots scenes of gang-fights but honestly, I don't think a lot happened here. This is a very Brubaker thing though-- he always does a few "chase the bad-guy or info down" issues that are interesting at the time but in retrospect kinda boring cause nothing truly important happens. This is that issue. Although I am interested in knowing [BLACKOUT]why Lily wants to meet Mila again... though she looks like she's on the up and up.[/BLACKOUT]

Don't skip it, but just know what you're getting into.

Thor 5
I can't believe this! I can't! I had to read the issue again. [BLACKOUT]Something actually happened.[/BLACKOUT] That alone is worth picking up the issue. I finally enjoyed Thor. I don't quite get the ending but the "arc" I guess has finally ended. Something tells me this is where Marvel will collect the trade/Premier Hardcover. Can I recommend it overall? Not really. I hated how slow Thor was. I was going to actually not pick this issue up, but now I will stick around for an issue longer.

X-Men 206
Enjoyable issue. I think Messiah Complex is now moving at a good pace. Last issue was one of the best, and unfortunately this issue isn't quite as good, but the it was still feeling very intense, one of the better issues. By now I'm really feeling the X-Men's urgency to find the baby, and I think Carey should get some credit for that. I am disappointed that Sinister and his crew don't show up all. Have they dropped off the face of the Earth? The problem with MC and what keeps this issue from being amazing is the searching. Let's find this guy! And "Oh! We were so close to our objective" and what it really leads to is a lot of chit-chat. It isn't bad chit-chat but you need fighting and plot revelations--like the last page-- which I am taking a wait and see attitude to. I don't want MC to drag out to the last issues. I mean, the X-men are still clue-less idiots and unfortunately they are starting to look like it. And I think in a few issues that will wear thing on me. I do have high hopes for next issue though, based on this cliff-hanger.

Green Lantern 26
I'm on the fence about this issue. Most of me wants to say this issue is skippable. And I'm sure that people who are big GL fans will be on my case (bring it t: ). This was not Alpha Lanterns Part 1. I know it says that on the cover but this was a glorified Sinestro Corps Epilogue. GLCorps did the Sinestro Corps Epilogue officially, but Geoff Johns felt the need to go back and do it again. In my mind this is the issue I always try and avoid. It was well scripted. The brief interaction between Sinestro and Hal was great. Sinestro seems really cool. (I wonder what his fate will be...) But let's not kid ourselves. This totally wasn't needed plot-wise. If you have GL 1-25 then by all means, keep your run going. But if you are like me and you jumped on for Sinestro Corps War, you can learn from my mistake here and jump off. Was the issue bad? No, but it is just a comic book "Where Are Now?" special.

Action Comics 860
I guess I decided that I wanted some more books to read, so I jumped on with Gary Frank's first AC issue. Also, Johns' work on the Sinestro Corps War convinced me that he was the writer to follow. So far I haven't been disappointed. This is a good issue, but it doesn't follow up on the undercurrent of Superman being, essentially, a "fish out of water" and I am really missing that aspect of his journey to the future. Also, Legionnaires are coming out of every nook and cranny this issue and I haven't the slightest clue who they are (do they miss Karate Kid at all?!). But the story is interesting. I'm not feeling like I want to keep Action Comics in my list forever now, but I'm enjoying this arc.

 

[GNR]

Thor has been great since the start,and all these "nothing happened" complaints are so weak.

 

[DoomJester]

Just out of curiosity, what about this sounds awesome to you, exactly?

The number one thing that is awesome to me about this is that it is running three times a week. I have never been comfortable with a month wait between stories and I'm excited about a book that runs three times a week.

I think Jiminez and McNiven's art is great. I am worried about them being on time but I am excited about seeing these artists back in action.

Also, I've always respected Spider-Man as a character. I love the movies, I loved the Fox show (though I can't watch it anymore!) but I have never had the chance to really read the character and now the he is basically starting over, this is the perfect time for me to read him. I don't feel like getting trades and stuff, but I can do issues.

 

[PhotoJones]

So you basically ONLY care about the schedule and the art? Well, in that case, I'm sure it'll be great.

 

[DoomJester]

Well no I don't only care about that. You asked what made it awesome. That is what made me say awesome. I am no lover of Dan Slott but he'll do. Also, you left out that probably most important thing I said:

"Also, I've always respected Spider-Man as a character. I love the movies, I loved the Fox show (though I can't watch it anymore!) but I have never had the chance to really read the character"

So yes, being able to go from not reading a character I have always wanted to read monthly to being able to read him drawn by two of artists I really like in one month is awesome.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Well no I don't only care about that. You asked what made it awesome. That is what made me say awesome. I am no lover of Dan Slott but he'll do. Also, you left out that probably most important thing I said:

"Also, I've always respected Spider-Man as a character. I love the movies, I loved the Fox show (though I can't watch it anymore!) but I have never had the chance to really read the character"

What do you mean "you never had the chance"? The books have always been there for you to read, you just chose not to. And please dont tell me that you were intimidated by all the continuity, because BND is setting up a new status quo, and you'll be going into that as blind as you would be if you had picked up ANY random Pre-One More Day book....

Im not trying to call you out or anything, but that statement just strikes me as a bit whack.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I had readied myself to go through the storm that was to be the marriage retcon in order to read Slott Spidey. That's how bad I wanted to see him do this book.

These new developments, I'm hearing, have pretty much knocked away any resolve I had left. Jeez. Looks like I'll be skipping out on Spidey for a while longer.

 

[DoomJester]

What do you mean "you never had the chance"? The books have always been there for you to read, you just chose not to. And please dont tell me that you were intimidated by all the continuity, because BND is setting up a new status quo, and you'll be going into that as blind as you would be if you had picked up ANY random Pre-One More Day book....

Im not trying to call you out or anything, but that statement just strikes me as a bit whack.

Okay, saying I never had the chance is misleading, as though the trades never existed where I was.

I should've said it like this-- by the way I spend money on comics (I buy issues), it never turned out that I really had money for an ASM trade budgeted. That's what I meant by never had the chance. Between beer and comic issues and games and life ASM slipped through the cracks.

Also, it didn't help that I read Civil War ASM and Back in Black, and honestly, it made me not want to read that much JMS ASM (that's a lot of acronyms!). Knowing that it would all be thrown out the window (continuity wise) didn't motivate me either. I have that ASM DVD (which doesn't have that much JMS on it) but reading on computer isn't optimal in my mind.

There are a bunch of books I want to read-- Spidey, Thor (thanks to thecorpulent1), Batman (always Batman!) and some others, but haven't been able to get around to. Not because the books aren't there. But, by my reasoning, it is easier for me to pick up issues-- it is easier on my wallet to have the money go to issue format little by little, than have issues and then a big chunk of money go for a book I will read in like 30 mins. Aside from the Ultimates 2 hardcover, I haven't bought a collection in ages.

 

[Kevin]

OMD made A:TI 7# Pointless. (maybe, but mostly)

 

[Dan_Slott]

OMD made A:TI 7# Pointless. (maybe, but mostly)

Give it some time and think about it. We HAD to do A:TI #7. If we didn't, then we wouldn't be able to... _______ the _________ of ___ ________ _______, because ___ _____ _____ _____ _______. There had to be some ______ ___ ___ _____ ______ could have ________ ______ _____ ___. Get it?

Hmmm. It's hard to get my point across when I have to keep redacting...

Let's talk about this after ASM #546 comes out.

 

[Xofenroht]

Give it some time and think about it. We HAD to do A:TI #7. If we didn't, then we wouldn't be able to... _______ the _________ of ___ ________ _______, because ___ _____ _____ _____ _______. There had to be some ______ ___ ___ _____ ______ could have ________ ______ _____ ___. Get it?

Hmmm. It's hard to get my point across when I have to keep redacting...

Let's talk about this after ASM #546 comes out.

Man, I don't know whether to kiss your feet or hate you for keeping such secrets.

Nonetheless, thanks. I'm actually looking forward to seeing you take a crack at ASM.

 

[Kevin]

Give it some time and think about it. We HAD to do A:TI #7. If we didn't, then we wouldn't be able to... _______ the _________ of ___ ________ _______, because ___ _____ _____ _____ _______. There had to be some ______ ___ ___ _____ ______ could have ________ ______ _____ ___. Get it?

Hmmm. It's hard to get my point across when I have to keep redacting...

Let's talk about this after ASM #546 comes out.

If you most know, Mister Slott, I WILL be there for BND, but i'm watching you. (while you sleep) No, I really hope BND is good because I like the writing and art teams, from what I've seen. Please don't disappoint. Comic cost too much as it is.

 

[JewishHobbit]

You know what this reminds me of? I'm one of the 3 guys who loved the Clone Saga. I loved Ben Reilly and some major things happened with him. Aunt May had one of the best death scenes in comics (if not THE best). New threats and such came about. Peter and MJ were going to have a baby.

Then they came in, killed Ben and pretended he didn't exist. MJ had the baby, it was kidnapped, then left as if it never existed. Aunt May comes back to life completely destroying that great issue of her death. Most of the interesting villains just seemed to vanish. And to this day it's like the Clone Saga never existed, even though there were some amazing things that came from it. I was so angry at how they treated this that I stopped reading Spidey for years until maybe 2 or 3 years ago. It just didn't feel right anymore. It felt like this was an alternate Spidey, not the title I loved. There were no repercussions of the stories I have been reading and loving for several years.

Now they seem to be going and doing it again. Why separate MJ and Peter? I've read Quesada's take on it and don't agree at all. I've been reading Spidey for 16 years and MJ is a major part of Spidey's life. I've read previous stuff but like him better with her. Now they negate that part of his life... and in the same process bring back

Spoiler

Harry Osborn

... who also had a great classic death. And I won't claim to know what's to come, but it really seems like it's moving on with little repercussion and such and just focusing on 'moving forward'.

I was excited about the BND thing because of the great talent. I was a little hesitant on the schedual because I don't have much money for comics anymore, but I was willing to try anyhow. But now I'm just completely 100% turned off on it. And this is from a guy who was open minded enough to enjoy Sins Past and The Other.

My apologies to Mr. Slott but I don't think I can bother turning money over to the Spidey titles 3 times a month when I'm this upset about it. I'll be opened minded, and if I hear good things I'll go back and try them again, but for now Marvel has lost me as a Spidey fan... and I'm afraid it'll be another long detest like after the Clone Saga.

 

[Xofenroht]

It'll either do really bad or really well. The most that could hurt it is the weekly schedule.

That should have been reserved for something like an "Amazing Fantasy" or other sort of anthology title.