Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Brian Patrick Wade IS The Absorbing Man

[Dark Raven]

Could be a good subplot to a Thunderbolts film.

Just speaking from a fans perspective here but how awesome would Thor and Hulk vs Abomination and Absorbing Man fight be!

Only if we get a recognisable Abomination this time round who is green and has those ear fins, and not that boney generic monster Hulk fought.

 

[seahammer]

Titania would be cool to see, but would require a different origin since her comic one is associated with Secret Wars. This would actually be the perfect opportunity for a female wrestler to be cast for once. She just shouldn't look more muscular than Brian Patrick Wade.

True. A similar scenario could be managed though. Didn't she have some gene tampering or something? That could still be used.

Could be a good subplot to a Thunderbolts film.

Just speaking from a fans perspective here but how awesome would Thor and Hulk vs Abomination and Absorbing Man fight be!

It would be very cool. I'd love to see something like that.

 

[KDM1986]

Only if we get a recognisable Abomination this time round who is green and has those ear fins, and not that boney generic monster Hulk fought.

I like to think of that as the first stage of Abominations mutation and not his final form. I'd bet he mutates further (maybe with the help of The Leader) into a more similar look to his comic counterpart.

 

[Dark Raven]

True. A similar scenario could be managed though. Didn't she have some gene tampering or something? That could still be used.



It would be very cool. I'd love to see something like that.

Dr Doom took a petite and skinny woman and transformed her into an Amazonian power house.

If they did show her origin, maybe we could see some CA:TFA CGI used on the actress to make her smaller at first since it will ultimately require a much larger woman for the majority of the time. But if that is too expensive for AOS, they might just skip over all of that.

I'd be tempted to suggest someone like Ronda Rousey, but she might be too short to be Titania at 5'6". Even Gina Carano is too short. Can't have Mockingbird looking taller than Titania. I'd say that whoever plays Titania should be closer in height to Absorbing Man (Wade is 6'4").

 

[Gr0oT]

Only if we get a recognisable Abomination this time round who is green and has those ear fins, and not that boney generic monster Hulk fought.

Movie Abomination is one of the best villains of the MCU, true they didn't pull off his traditional look most likely because they couldn't figure a way to justify it. Might be that they'll use some amphibian serum in order to try to control the transformation and it'll just backfire and make him worse. In any case he likes menacing as is.

So far as Absorbing Man making his debut on this show I'm trepidatious as always, can't help but feel it'll look cheap and that the actor will be awful.

Thank god for the Netflix shows.

 

[Shakel92]

I'm just excited that he's actually getting introduced formally into the MCU, which opens a ton of doors for his character. Jed Whedon said in an interview that they are basically given a list of characters to use for each season, so a lot of characters are going were going to be originals.

That being said, since the first season was relatively successful, it appears that the powers-that-be have given a wider latitude, in regards to comic book characters being used. We're getting Isabelle Hartly, Daniel Whitehall AKA Kraken, and Bobbi Morse AKA Mockingbird, in addition to Crusher Creel.

To me, The Absorbing Man is a top notch villain, since he has been around so long and has battles with many "A" listers in the comics. What makes him a perfect fit for AoS is that he is only as powerful as those he battles. Yes, he's gone toe to toe with Thor, the Hulk and an entire Avengers team by himself, but he's also fought Spider-Man, Daredevil and Dazzler.

From the set photos, he doesn't look cheap in the least bit. I'm okay with "bad" acting, because Crusher Creel is basically a dumb two bit criminal and it shouldn't take a lot of acting chops to get it right.

My only concern is his origin. How they will pull this off on a one hour TV show is totally beyond me. I just can't wait for September 23.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

My only concern is his origin. How they will pull this off on a one hour TV show is totally beyond me. I just can't wait for September 23.

the Absorbing Dad origin in Ang Lee's Hulk took about 10 minutes. Sandman's origin which is somewhat similar (ex convict gets super powers) took about the same amount of time in S-M3. It IS managable in 45 minutes

 

[ctsketch]

Maybe he won't be a one and done villain?

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Rewatching A:EMH atm, realizing that Creel gets his powers because of Gamma radiation. That's a very easy explanation and I guess it needs some aditional tweaking, but I can see it it work in context of the MCU

 

[Shakel92]

It would be nice if they stick to the source material and have it be Loki who gives him his powers. That would be a great surprise for the first episode, but I seriously doubt it will happen.

 

[Dark Raven]

It would be nice if they stick to the source material and have it be Loki who gives him his powers. That would be a great surprise for the first episode, but I seriously doubt it will happen.

It would be great if Tom Hiddleston made a guest appearance in AOS. Even though he's thought to be dead by Thor and Sif, he can still appear covertly to Crusher Creel, without the SHIELD team ever knowing.

Of course, since Loki can make an illusion, he can really assume any form, but it would be nice even if Hiddleston has a few seconds cameo to show that it's actually him and not just someone else.

 

[BloodHound]

It would be great if Tom Hiddleston made a guest appearance in AOS. Even though he's thought to be dead by Thor and Sif, he can still appear covertly to Crusher Creel, without the SHIELD team ever knowing.

Of course, since Loki can make an illusion, he can really assume any form, but it would be nice even if Hiddleston has a few seconds cameo to show that it's actually him and not just someone else.

Now that Loki must keep a low profile, to not be exposed as still living, wonder what reasons he would have to empower a random criminal with absorbation-powers. The only reason I can think of is that he knows that Coulson is alive after Sif gave a mission report to "Odin" (she promised not to tell Thor, but she could have said it to "Odin"). He then decided to empower a random criminal (or a criminal who has actually a history with Coulson), to kill Coulson permanently.

 

[BloodHound]

It would be at least awesome if it happened, with Tom Hiddlestone making a cameo appearance. I think he said a long time ago that he would not be opposed to making an appearance on AoS if the story was good.

 

[seahammer]

It would be nice if they stick to the source material and have it be Loki who gives him his powers. That would be a great surprise for the first episode, but I seriously doubt it will happen.

It would be great if Tom Hiddleston made a guest appearance in AOS. Even though he's thought to be dead by Thor and Sif, he can still appear covertly to Crusher Creel, without the SHIELD team ever knowing.

Of course, since Loki can make an illusion, he can really assume any form, but it would be nice even if Hiddleston has a few seconds cameo to show that it's actually him and not just someone else.

Now that Loki must keep a low profile, to not be exposed as still living, wonder what reasons he would have to empower a random criminal with absorbation-powers. The only reason I can think of is that he knows that Coulson is alive after Sif gave a mission report to "Odin" (she promised not to tell Thor, but she could have said it to "Odin"). He then decided to empower a random criminal (or a criminal who has actually a history with Coulson), to kill Coulson permanently.

It would be at least awesome if it happened, with Tom Hiddlestone making a cameo appearance. I think he said a long time ago that he would not be opposed to making an appearance on AoS if the story was good.

^ I agree with all of the above. It would be pretty sad if we lost the Asgard connection with Absorbing Man. We had a couple of Asgard-centric episodes last season, so it wouldn't be out of the blue. After Sif returns to Asgard with Lorelei, Loki will definitely know that Coulson is still out there (if he doesn't already), so this could be a continuation of that storyline.

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the Absorbing Dad origin in Ang Lee's Hulk took about 10 minutes. Sandman's origin which is somewhat similar (ex convict gets super powers) took about the same amount of time in S-M3. It IS managable in 45 minutes

Rewatching A:EMH atm, realizing that Creel gets his powers because of Gamma radiation. That's a very easy explanation and I guess it needs some aditional tweaking, but I can see it it work in context of the MCU

See, this is what I was asking about on the last page. Is it just those two versions (A:EMH & Lee's Hulk) of Absorbing Man that have got people thinking he's a gamma/Hulk villain? Not to repeat myself, but why do so many associate him with Hulk before Thor?

From the last page:

I'm always surprised when people mention Absorbing Man as a Hulk villain. I'm not saying anyone's wrong or anything, but I always see him as a Thor villain. (Of course, I admit that I have Thor-colored glasses and see everything in the Marvel Universe through a Thor fan's lens).

With AM's first appearance being in Thor with an Asgard-based power, and with so many repeated appearances throughout the years in the pages of Thor comics, what makes people think of him as a Hulk villain? Has he had more appearances in Hulk comics than in Thor comics? Is there a super-famous Hulk story that I just don't know about where AM proves to be some great nemesis for him?

I'm not trying to be annoying, I just don't know.

 

[Dark Raven]

See, this is what I was asking about on the last page. Is it just those two versions (A:EMH & Lee's Hulk) of Absorbing Man that have got people thinking he's a gamma/Hulk villain? Not to repeat myself, but why do so many associate him with Hulk before Thor?

He has actually battled the Hulk quite a bit in the comics: In Hulk #208-209, #347-348, #457, Hulk Annual #18. He also was in the Hulk Classics line as one of the figures:

And he was also in the Hulk-related wave of Marvel Legends as well (where the BAF was Fin Fang Foom):

I tend to think of him as a Thor, Avengers and Hulk villain. He has actually fought others too though such as Spider-Man (while he was teamed up with Titania) and also She-Hulk (again teamed with Titania), as well as Hank Pym.

EDIT: Apparently he has battled SHIELD as well, specifically Maria Hill, Sharon Carter and Victoria Hand, and was defeated by them. It's a shame that Victoria is dead now, because we've had all 3 of those in the MCU and they could easily have teamed up again and recreated that story. I guess this means that Creel can be defeated just by the Agents of SHIELD cast.

 

[Guard82]

Now that Loki must keep a low profile, to not be exposed as still living, wonder what reasons he would have to empower a random criminal with absorbation-powers. The only reason I can think of is that he knows that Coulson is alive after Sif gave a mission report to "Odin" (she promised not to tell Thor, but she could have said it to "Odin"). He then decided to empower a random criminal (or a criminal who has actually a history with Coulson), to kill Coulson permanently.

I don’t think Loki would work in this context because it wouldn’t make much sense. Loki doesn’t have any reason to empower some random criminal just to try to kill Phil Coulson again. He doesn’t have any logical reason to bother with Coulson anymore.

The only reason Loki killed Coulson in the Avengers movie was because Coulson directly threatened him with the Destroyer gun while Loki was trying to kill Thor. As of now, Loki no longer has any reason to waste time with Coulson. He has more important things to do, like consolidating his control over Asgard while impersonating Odin.

It might be neat to have Loki in a guest appearance in the future, but it would need to be a good-quality appearance that actually makes sense. I don’t think making him the creator of the Absorbing Man works too well here because it makes little sense.

 

[terry78]

I think he might do it just to **** with him. The guy wants power, Loki gives it to him but at a price.

 

[Dark Raven]

Maybe Creel stumbles upon the Asgardian power by accident, and since he now has it, Loki appears to him and decides to use him as a pawn.

I think Creel should initially use the power against another Asgardian like Sif or even Thor, but I don't know if that will happen in this show. He'll probably just fight the Agents of SHIELD.

 

[Loki882]

Loki has no reason to use him as a pawn. Heck, he has no reason to bother with Earth at all now. The only reason why he wanted to conquer Earth in The Avengers was because he failed on Asgard in the first Thor movie. It was a consolation prize for him. Well now he's ruling Asgard, he was the big winner in TDW, and no one's the wiser. It makes ZERO sense for him to risk all of that just to mess around with one human back on Earth. Now if Creel were to get his powers from another source, say from Lorelei or her more powerful older sister, then that could work. Oh and I'd like to see Titania appear eventually as well.

 

[terry78]

These guys always end up coming back to Earth for some reason or another in the books. We are just that popular.

 

[Norrin Parker]

These guys always end up coming back to Earth for some reason or another in the books. We are just that popular.

 

[Dasher10]

I don't feel like Absorbing Man is being wasted. Thor's greatest enemies have always been Enchantress, Loki, Surtur, Perikus, Chaos King, Hela and Malekith. More recently Gorr has joined those ranks. Absorbing Man has always been somebody who Thor fights when he needs a break from giant massive threats.

 

[metaphysician]

I would only says he's "wasted" if they kill him off in the same episode. Otherwise, he's got great potential as a "scalable" super mook.

 

[seahammer]

He has actually battled the Hulk quite a bit in the comics: In Hulk #208-209, #347-348, #457, Hulk Annual #18. He also was in the Hulk Classics line as one of the figures:

And he was also in the Hulk-related wave of Marvel Legends as well (where the BAF was Fin Fang Foom):

I tend to think of him as a Thor, Avengers and Hulk villain. He has actually fought others too though such as Spider-Man (while he was teamed up with Titania) and also She-Hulk (again teamed with Titania), as well as Hank Pym.

EDIT: Apparently he has battled SHIELD as well, specifically Maria Hill, Sharon Carter and Victoria Hand, and was defeated by them. It's a shame that Victoria is dead now, because we've had all 3 of those in the MCU and they could easily have teamed up again and recreated that story. I guess this means that Creel can be defeated just by the Agents of SHIELD cast.

Thanks for taking the time to come up with an answer (and a thorough one, at that!). I didn't know he was in so many Hulk stories (though I still think he's had more appearances in Thor/Journey into Mystery). Creel does work well as an all-around/general villain, as you say.

A couple other questions for the board:
What different materials do you guys see him absorbing? We saw his arm painted a metallic color, but does anyone think he'll go Groot on us and absorb some wood or something with more texture than just a smooth surface? I doubt he'll grow in size in AoS (but maybe if he makes an eventual big screen appearance).

He's in the season premiere, right? I hope he's an ongoing character throughout the season a la Deathlok in season 1. I would love for things to build up to a team up with Creel, Blizzard, Graviton, and whoever else (Abomination? ... Griffin? ) by season's end.

While I 100% want them to keep the origin of his powers related to Asgard, I had a thought that he might be an Inhuman in the MCU. I'm not saying I want it to happen, but it would definitely simplify his origins (even more so than changing them to Gamma) and tie in to what we assume will be a big part of the season. Anyone think it's a possibility?

That's all I got for now

 

[InternetPeople]

I doubt we will see his origin. He is probably one of the villains who escaped the prison with the others. Learned how to control his powers while "on the inside" similar to Blackout (or whatever that guys name was).

We need time to learn who the new friendlies are. I doubt we see true origins for many villains on this show.