The Dark Knight Can the dark knight do well INTERNATIONALLY?

[Alonsovich]

I don't give a flying s**t about the international BO, mainly because from the international BO WB only gets 1/4 of the price of the tickets as opposed to the little more than half from the ticket price they get domestically so it's the domestic BO which will make or brake the performance (and I say this being european) of the movie. All I want is a sequel to this.

 

[ActuallyRobin]

well in terms of the size of the market then IBO is important since the market outside US is obv alot bigger.

most of the money is made on DVDs now alot of the time.

 

[redfirebird2008]

international box office matters a lot
the simpsons only grossed $180 million,in the u.s.a. world wide it made $400 million odd which is a significant amount

same with pirates of the carribbean , so worldwide box office is as important!

its all about the money to film companies!

The Dark Knight will make back its budget and then some in the U.S. Anything else it makes overseas will be icing on the cake. As I said, $250 million domestic and $200 million overseas is a good prediction at this point.

 

[ActuallyRobin]

i didnt mention batman in that post, what are you on about >.< i was actually agreeing with you that IBO matters

 

[Alonsovich]

international box office matters a lot
the simpsons only grossed $180 million,in the u.s.a. world wide it made $400 million odd which is a significant amount

same with pirates of the carribbean , so worldwide box office is as important!

its all about the money to film companies!

I don't want to get into a fight here but... Domestic BO Simpsons gets 60% of the ticket price which means around which means 108 milion for FOX. Int. BO Simpsons gets 25% of the tickets price which means around 100 million for FOX. You DO realize now that the money profit for FOX was bigger domestically than internationally, right? Int. BO is just a side effect for the studios because they have to pay dubbings, distribution rights, international copyrights and get only 25% of the ticket price. Where the studios make the really big cut is in this order: merchandising, domestic BO and the DVDs, and then int. BO. Obviously if a movie makes only half of it's budget in the domestic BO it has al the possibilities to be profitable. I'm not comparing to Spider-man, I'm only answering to your question if it will do well internationally, and well the answer is that with the domestic BO, merchandising and the DVDs it will be enough for this to span a sequel. In fact... we're getting a sequel because of the DVD revenues BB had, just for information.

 

[redfirebird2008]

ok anything to support ur fanboy support of batman

the truth is that the spiderman franchise destroys all other super hero franchises period

on dvd or box office

The only fanboy here is YOU. Get that Spider-Man crap out of here. Batman Begins is a higher quality movie than any of the Spidey films. THAT is what matters most to me. The fact that Batman isn't being a sell-out to kids like Spidey is a good thing. Batman is a dark character and they should never attempt to sell-out to kids. If they do, you get crappy movies like Batman Forever or Batman & Robin. And I've got a little news for you there bud. Batman '89 adjusts to making more domestically than Spidey 2 or Spidey 3. It also adjusts to within 10% of Spidey 1's inflated gross. You cannot compare a franchise that is 20 years old with 5 movies with one that is 5 years old and a recent phenomenon. You also should be aware that Batman Begins sold almost double the amount of DVD's in its first week as Spidey 3. Why is that? Could it be that one of them was actually a good movie?

 

[ActuallyRobin]

I don't like the negative image of sell outs. who cares it does make money *shrugs* which yes is the point of the thread.

funny how someone so enthusiastic about Spider-Man can't remember to hyphenate it

 

[lixdexia]

i know this

but bats will never make spidey numbers on the bo

its just not very exciting, and its slow progressive story telling

nolan needs jeph loeb to write an exciting script, the batman films need to be adventurous and action packed a bit like hush.

now that would make batman more popular and will no doubt bring more people in the cinemas!

actually if you factor in inflation, B89 made over 600 million dollars. it sold more tickets than any superhero movie ever. period.

 

[ActuallyRobin]

political thriller? and by 'this' do you mean BB or TDK?

 

[Apollo]

i'm sure it will do fine.

 

[redfirebird2008]

fyi i prefer dc movies but they are just not producing exciting movies, superman returns was ok i intially enjoyed bb a couple of times after that i had to skip 5 chapters to just barely watch it again!

its just a slow, boring political thriller

my cousin thought the same i had to tell him this was a batman film lol

Political thriller? WTF? No, it's an origin story, no more than Spider-Man 1 or Superman: The Movie. You have ADD if you're supposedly a Batman fan and don't enjoy the early parts of that film. The first 45 minutes are the BEST part of the film. The rest of it is typical action crap that can be found in any other franchise. No thanks.

 

[redfirebird2008]

thats in the past we are talking about the bo situation today lol

The box office situation today is that the Spidey franchise is on the verge of dropping big time if they put out another piece of crap like Spidey 3. That movie had INSANE marketing and had a huge opening, yet only had a 2.2 multiplier. That is one of the worst multipliers ever for such a big film. If they put out another crappy movie, there's a chance that TDK and BB3 will BOTH outgross whatever SM4 makes domestically.

 

[ActuallyRobin]

by multiplier do you mean how much it grossed in comparison to budget?

 

[jmc]

It's still a good story, that's what counts the most, Nolan's series is doing perfectly fine as is.

 

[jmc]

again ur a bat fanboy

im talking from the percpective of an average movie goer

bb just seemed slow, to attract more movie goers the batman films have to be exciting and fast passed!

That won't necessarily make it a better film.

 

[Doomofman]

again ur a bat fanboy

im talking from the percpective of an average movie goer

bb just seemed slow, to attract more movie goers the batman films have to be exciting and fast passed!

For brain dead idiots yeah.. FOr movie goers that actually have half a brain I think BBwas interesting...

 

[Val]

I was in Brazil when BB came out and most showings were sold out for a while. It wasnt as big as HP usually is but still, pretty big.

 

[ActuallyRobin]

To be on topic of whether it will do well internationally. YES. end of story. comparing it to other films is not the topic.

 

[Alonsovich]

again ur a bat fanboy

im talking from the percpective of an average movie goer

bb just seemed slow, to attract more movie goers the batman films have to be exciting and fast passed!

You're talking from the perspective of a Spider-man fan...

 

[redfirebird2008]

by multiplier do you mean how much it grossed in comparison to budget?

No, if you talk about that then it's even more embarrassing since it had an "official" budget of $270 million although industry insiders said it was more like $300 million. I'm talking about total domestic divided by opening weekend. It made around $336 million domestically. $151 million of it came in the opening weekend. $336m/$151m = 2.22 multiplier. For comparison, the previous opening weekend record holder Pirates: Dead Man's Chest had a multiplier above 3, which is actually good considering it opened to $135 million. Had Spidey 3 achieved such a multiplier, it would have made over $450 million domestically.

 

[lixdexia]

thats in the past we are talking about the bo situation today lol

doesn't make your stance on spiderman being the end all beat all any less wrong. to be honest, as long as it's a quality movie and makes enough to warrant the third movie, i don't care how well it does at home or abroad. wb has figured out that it's more important to make a quality movie here and make batman a long term producer (which he is, batman is the #1 selling fictional character of all time) than to try and squeeze as much money as possible out of it ala b&r/spidey3

 

[jmc]

No-one will remember Spiderman 3 in 5 years time.

 

[Magenta666]

No-one will remember Spiderman 3 in 5 years time.

no it will be known, same as B&R is known, for being bad

 

[lixdexia]

i have no idea wut ur talking about lol

all i know is spiderman 3 is the 11th highest grossing movie of all time!
mojo box office

it's also a complete turd of a film and will no doubt give the franchise a bad perception come time for the sequal so it won't make as much

 

[redfirebird2008]

i have no idea wut ur talking about lol

all i know is spiderman 3 is the 11th highest grossing movie of all time!
mojo box office

Here you go, since you have no clue about inflation apparently:

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

Batman '89 is 47th. Spidey 3 is 86th. If Spidey 3 was released in 1989, it would have made $203 million. Tickets sold is the ONLY way to compare movies. The only film in the Spidey franchise that sold more tickets than Batman '89 is Spidey 1. The other two grossed more money as a result of higher ticket prices and nothing more.

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm?adjust_yr=1989&p=.htm