Justice League Ciaran Hinds is Steppenwolf

[Consona]

Yea, I think so.

 

[HellYeah]

damn this rage *****...

 

[matt47]

Hahahahaha

I hope ciaran keeps on dishin.

 

[Consona]

Hinds saying publicly he's really unhappy with the released movie, no surprise there; Ray wearing I

ZS t-shirt during the official promo campaign. The resistance is real.

 

[matt47]

Yeah...you can really see why Ben is over this all aye. The negatives are really outweighing the positives.

 

[Yowza]

We've all read Ciaran Hind's reaction to the Snyder Cut getting released as seen this past September: 'Justice League''s Ciaran Hinds on Snyder Cut: "It's a fantastic opportunity"

The reason I bring this back is I just couldn't help but think of the initial image shown by Zach Snyder of Steppenwolf's arrival juxtaposed with the Amazon's awaiting his arrival as seen now in trailer 3.

As a little Easter Egg who here wasn't reminded of the movie "Immortals" while watching the trailer? You can read about it here: <i>Immortals</i> (2011 film)

I'm sure Zach Snyder has seen as it featured Henry Cavill before he was cast in MOS. The end scene featuring the arrival of the greek Gods inside Mount Tartarus to faceoff against the freed Titans reminds me of Steppenwolf's arrival to faceoff against the Amazon's as seen anticipating him in trailer 3.

Steppenwolf is looking better in this last trailer than he did in the first image seen this past summer. However, I still wish Zach was able to use the earlier concept art this is obviously a vast improvement over WB/Whedon's theatrical cut in terms of Steppenwolf's design.

Comicbook's are increasingly becoming modern mythology as Ben Affleck has put it in the past. They usually have moreso taken parts and riffed on it a bit in decades past within the comics but the gravity and weight most mythological films carry I think Snyder has brought to the modern comic book movie more so than any other that is his defining touch to a degree.

It's therefore interesting to note how some of these films compare to more modern mythological films being made now.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

Steppenwolf comes off much better in the Snyder Cut. Snyder gives him some vulnerability and even makes you feel bad for him at the end.

Out of all the villains I'd come up with for the first JL movie I'd honestly never pick Steppenwolf.

Unfortunately for me his design isn't the greatest. Joss made him really bland, but Snyder went to far in the opposite direction and made him over designed. That and so many of the first phase of DCEU movies had big grey/black monsters as villains Doomsday, Ares, Incubus, even Zod with his armor. Could have used a dash of red or something

 

[The Guard]

He's still kind of goofy. Even though Hinds' voicework is spot on. It's a weird dynamic.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Generic, one-note villain with terrible CGI and typical "demonic" voice via dubbing.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I thought the Snyder version was a big improvement over the TC version. He showed depth, vulnerability but was also a damn force of nature, cutting Atlanteans in half one minute then desperately seeking Darkseids forgiveness the next. He also looked much better and you actually felt sorry for him at times. Great Voicework also.

Even simple lines used in the TC which had no meaning there meant much more here, even stuff like "For Darkseid."

 

[Arachnerd]

Generic, one-note villain with terrible CGI and typical "demonic" voice via dubbing.

I think you're describing the theatrical cut instead.

 

[Another_Fool]

While he's still not a particularly compelling villain, they do so much more with Steppenwolf in the Snyder cut that I don't roll me eyes whenever he shows up anymore. I would say he's now like a Ronan-tier villain. Not gonna come up in any best villain lists but certainly a threatening foe for the story he's serving.

 

[sportjames23]

Generic, one-note villain with terrible CGI and typical "demonic" voice via dubbing.

But enough about Thanos. How’d you like Steppenwolf?

 

[Deck Rickard]

But enough about Thanos. How’d you like Steppenwolf?

LOL, you Snyder stans are so insecure.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I think you're describing the theatrical cut instead.

Why not both?

 

[Arachnerd]

Because subjectivity?

 

[sportjames23]

LOL, you Snyder stans are so insecure.

LOL name calling, the desperation shows.

 

[Deck Rickard]

LOL name calling, the desperation shows.

Yeah I’m the desperate one. You couldn’t even come up with a way to refute anything I said and instead opted to taking baseless shots at Snyder’s (much more successful) competition.

If you can’t defend what you like without defending what you don’t like, you have no legs to stand on.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I certainly wouldn't call Snyder's Steppenwolf one note, he had a few layers too him. He was a beast and brutal in combat but all he wanted was his master's approval and to make up for a previous mistake to redeem himself.

 

[Primal Slayer]

While I still prefer a more human looking Steppenwolf (E2 Steppen is my ideal Steppen), I didnt mind the change here when he was all armored up. When his armor disappeared he looked like some weird puppy dog turd thing.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I certainly wouldn't call Snyder's Steppenwolf one note, he had a few layers too him. He was a beast and brutal in combat but all he wanted was his master's approval and to make up for a previous mistake to redeem himself.

Thats fair, Snyder did try to give him some layers but I don’t think he was explored enough. I guess you can make the argument that he didn’t need to be but I think when you have a fully CGI main character, you’re almost required to do more to make the audience care about them because you can’t rely on an actor’s body language, facial expressions, etc. (really good, Andy Serkis-style mo cap can help with this a lot but I don’t think Steppy had that). Aside from his conversation with Desaad, which was pretty good, Steppy mostly just swings his ax and talks about “the scent.”

I also found his constantly moving armor distracting. Even if the CGI had been better that element just had me sitting there expecting him to transform or something.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Thats fair, Snyder did try to give him some layers but I don’t think he was explored enough. I guess you can make the argument that he didn’t need to be but I think when you have a fully CGI main character, you’re almost required to do more to make the audience care about them because you can’t rely on an actor’s body language, facial expressions, etc. (really good, Andy Serkis-style mo cap can help with this a lot but I don’t think Steppy had that). Aside from his conversation with Desaad, which was pretty good, Steppy mostly just swings his ax and talks about “the scent.”

I also found his constantly moving armor distracting. Even if the CGI had been better that element just had me sitting there expecting him to transform or something.

I think he was explored as much as he could be in the 4 hour cut. Remember this movie also had to introduce Cyborg, Aquaman and The Flash as well as deal with Steppenwolf. But as I said in a previous post. I felt Snyder gave him layers and some vulnerability also. The moment he looks at his axe when encountering Wonder Woman for the first time, wondering if he can grab it in time to fight her. The sad look on his face when he repeats "for Darkseid" to Desaad the first time they speak, knowing what he has done so far won't get him the approval he requires (that line means SO much more than in the TC). I really liked that as it added to his desperation in pleasing Darkseid and getting on his good side.

 

[moviefreak]

 

[Deck Rickard]

I think he was explored as much as he could be in the 4 hour cut. Remember this movie also had to introduce Cyborg, Aquaman and The Flash as well as deal with Steppenwolf. But as I said in a previous post. I felt Snyder gave him layers and some vulnerability also. The moment he looks at his axe when encountering Wonder Woman for the first time, wondering if he can grab it in time to fight her. The sad look on his face when he repeats "for Darkseid" to Desaad the first time they speak, knowing what he has done so far won't get him the approval he requires (that line means SO much more than in the TC). I really liked that as it added to his desperation in pleasing Darkseid and getting on his good side.

I agree that stuff was good but like you said, this was a 4 hour movie. I think they could have fit a bit more of him in there just to flesh him out a bit more. I’d take more character development for him over that Knightmare scene, which almost felt superfluous to me.

 

[The Guard]

I love how he "presented" like an animal when Darkseid communicated.

One thing I noticed...his armor/exoskeleton is super shiny. I think I would have preferred something more beaten, worn, rusty, etc. Would have suited the character a little better.