Contest of Marvels II Thread 3

hippy fascist said:
what you need is a set of prayer beads...:o

They'd be better than those beads you keep in your sock drawer. They're getting a little brown, don't you think?:oldrazz:
 
Phaedrus45 said:
They'd be better than those beads you keep in your sock drawer. They're getting a little brown, don't you think?:oldrazz:

with little flecks of red and white :csad:
 
Trigger said:
*tap dances*
*spins on back*
*goes to get some noise makers*
*loads shotgun*




:yay:
 
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BRACKET 5,

Match 7:

Killer Shrike (ZOKEN) bio



vs.

Scorpio (MIDNIGHT ICE) bio



Match 8:

Victor Mancha (ZOKEN) bio



vs.

Shinobi Shaw (KYTRIGGER) bio

 
BRACKET 6,

Match 7:

Kitty Pryde (JEWISHHOBBIT) bio



vs.

Cloak (HARLEKIN) bio



Match 8:

Wrecker (TRIGGER) bio



vs.

Thialfi (TRIGGER) bio

 
REMATCH:

Random (WIEGEABO) bio



vs.

Hisako Ichiki (HARLEKIN) bio




REMATCH:

Microbe (TRIGGER) bio



vs.

Maxam (ICEMAN/PSYLOCKE) bio

 
Location:

Project: Pegasus was originally intended to research alternative (and unusual) forms of energy, but has also been used as a prison for super-powered individuals. The location of this facility is described as being in the Adirondack Mountains in New York state.
The facility is remembered best in comics for "The Project Pegasus Saga" printed in Marvel Two-in-One #53-#58 (later collected as a trade paperback of the same title with art by John Byrne and George Pérez). However, its recurring use as a prison for supervillians of the Marvel Universe has led to a number of comics stories in the following decades, significant among them an emergence of the Serpent Crown. Several Marvel characters have served terms working security at the facility, including The Thing, Quasar and Spider-Woman. At one time it also served as a temporary home for the Squadron Supreme when they were exiled from their own universe.

For our version, we will be using the facility that was designed to be used as a prison for super-powered individuals. The prison will not be occupied by anyone except the combantants. Combatants cannot leave the prison.
 
Shadowcat vs Cloak

This is a toughie in my opinion. On the one hand we've got the ninja buttkicker Shadowcat and on the other we have badass guy who sucks in suckers into his cloak Cloak. Thing is both are intangible, and as we know, two people who are intangible get to hit each other. Although Cloak is stronger, Shadowcat is significantly better fighter. Cloak is going have to avoid HTH combat.

Not a problem. To his advantage, he has the ability of teleportation and the even handier use of his cloak. By taking Shadowcat by surprise and enveloping her in darkness, he can simply drain her life force until she's knocked out while she gets to be confronted by her inner darkness, given a crippling fear and see all kinds of visions (think the death of Doug and Illyana as possible visions for her).

All that it's about is avoiding Shadowcat long enough to trap her in his darkness. Ty can do that.

WINNER=CLOAK
 
Random vs Hisako Ichiki

I first thought this match would be hopeless because Random would now have the advantage of knowledge. Think again. The place is still big enough for the patented Hisako-suprise-tactic to work on Random, surprising him as he walks down the halls of the prison and then beating him senseless.

She is also, let's face it, the smarter one of the two, meaning she's going to look into using the compound to her advantage. Once she figures out how the systems work, it's only a matter of time before she's capable of luring Random into a trap. Now, Random isn't dumb, but he's not going to go through the trouble of laying out an ambush. Hisako would, especially considering she only narrowly made it through with the last match.

WINNER=HISAKO ICHIKI
 
Opening Comments: MAXAM Vs MICROBE

The vile one had his chance in match I and took his advantage of surprise very well. With Maxam now knowing exactly what to expect and there being no smelly villagers to carry/transmit any virus, he can win this in minutes.

All he has to do is grow to full size at which he has class 100 strength and invulnerablity, find Microbe (he can fly through the prison to find him quickly) and hit him once to finish the fight before the guy has a chance to do anything. There’s nothing that Microbe can do to even delay this outcome.

WINNER = MAXAM

 
The bio for Thailfi is messed up. Here's the right link. (You forgot the last ')' in the Wiki entry)

And the only reason I caught that was I wanted to see why Lady Deathstrike suddenly had facial hair :)
 
Thailfi Vs The Wrecker

This fight is pretty much an outright slugfest. The Wrecker's crowbar can, and will, destroy any wall seperating him from Thailfi. Prep-time? Absolutely useless in this situation. Even if he knew all of the Wrecker's powers, he'd be hard pressed to find away around them. Granted, he has superspeed, but there isn't a wide enough gap between the their other stats to really warrant considering that an advantage.

Winner by hair (a phrase I use too much) is The Wrecker.
 
Thanks. The bio for Wrecker had the same problem. For some reason when I cut and paste an addy that ends with ")", it leaves off that last part. Everything else will be in blue, but the last ")" will be in black. It's after I post I always have to go back in and add the last part.
 
Killer Shrike Vs. Scorpio

um... Killer Shrike steals the Zodiac key and sodomizes Scorpio? No wait, KS seduces the Zodiac key and gets it to teleport Scorpio out of the quarintine. Honestly with all the power the Zodiac Key gives that guy, I'm not really sure what you want Killer Shrike to do.
 
Victor Mancha Vs. Shinobi Shaw

Wow, this guy should make an appearance in Runaways. in anycase, Victor can own him. It doesn't say that he has the short-out ability that Kitty pride had, so Victor doesn't have to worry about that. plus with Victor's distinctly different anatomy there is little chance Shaw could find anything to squeeze before Victor jumped out of Shaw's volume.

As for Preptime advantage: Straight to Victor. Victor can use the Pride's old database and research Shaw easily including the man's powers. Victor is also highly versed in meta-history so he will know about how to deal with a threat like Shaw. Shaw can't stay intangible indefinitely as it has been established that one can't breath like that. so all Victor has to do is wait for the man to solidify and blammo hit him with something big and made of metal. Victor has been shown to be proficient enough with his powers to reconfigure a Van into a "Mecha". I don't doubt that any metal he senses on Shaw he would be able to exploit.

Another preptime advantage is the Victor isn't on ANYONE's databases. He was a sleeper agent of Ultron, and member of the Runaways, the pretty much guarentee's his powers are unknown expecially to some z-lister like Shaw.
 
Kitty Pryde Vs Cloak

Okay, so it'd be pretty easy for either of these people to get info on the other. Both are known characters and would be well documented, so let's just say that they're going in with full knowledge. Both can phase through things... but that's no problem. Cloak can teleport, which is a big aid to him, and Kitty has more resources and training.

The idea is that Kitty will bring a portable cerebro unit so that she can track Cloak (he is a mutant afterall). She will have a hard time finding him in the shadows of the prison, but the cerebro unit will aid him in that. Kitty has also been trained as a ninja and a shield agent. If she doesn't want to be seen, it will be difficult for Cloak to find her as well. So both can dodge one another, but Kitty has an added bonus to find her foe.

So she finds Cloak... what now? Both are phasing people, but something that some don't know, is that if two people are phased, they make contact. In an issue of X-Men, Kitty went against the Acalyte Neophyte (during the Magneto War) Kitty commenting on finding out what happens when two people are phased and make contact. She then knocked Neophyte out with a phased kick. This means that if it gets physical, it comes down to the best fighter... which is Kitty by far.

Now the only saving grace that Cloak has left is his dark demention cloak, and his teleportation. If he manages to teleport away from Kitty, and surprise her, she has her cerebro unit to find him instantly. That takes away that tactic. What's left... the dark force cloak. Now this is the hardest thing for Kitty to challenge, but the first thing is that when Kitty is phased, she's as good as air, and I wonder if she could even be pulled into the cloak. Not only that, but if she was managed to be sucked into the cloak... it's been seen in the past that people can overcome the cloak, such as Spiderman and Carnage. Both are strong willed people, and with all the mental training that Kitty's had, I'd think that she'd be able to do this as well, though I'm sure it'd effect her.

So what it comes down to, is that Kitty can overcome anything that Cloak can throw at her. I think all it will come down to in the end is the phasing ninja moves that take Cloak out. He's physically stronger as Cloak, than as Tyrone, but he's never been a physical fighter, and Kitty will use this to her advantage. In the end, she will come out on top.

Winner - Kitty Pryde
 
Killer Shrike (ZOKEN) bio



vs.

Scorpio (MIDNIGHT ICE) bio



I think that this fight would be a pretty quick one, depending on how much Scorpio felt like fighting. The Zodiac key that is Scorpio's primary weapon gives him immense power. Scorpio would just teleport away if KS tried anything and would easily subdue, if not kill KS(i dont know Scorpio well enough to know if he would rather kill or KO KS).

Either way I would say that during the fight Scorpio would be dominating, KS would think that his best chance to recover or hide would be to seal himself inside one of the prison rooms. Scorpio would the teleport inside the room. KS would then realize that he ocked himself in and can't get out, allowing Scorpio to finish the fight quickly.

WINNER: Scorpio
 
Phaedrus45 said:
Match 8:

Victor Mancha (ZOKEN) bio



vs.

Shinobi Shaw (KYTRIGGER) bio


First, sorry for being so late Zoken, I've been extemely busy and look to be even busier the rest of the weekend. I will try my best though to get any rebuttals up quickly enough so you can counter them (and I'm sure Phaedrus will give you extended time if I put it in too late)


While I love Victor, he would get a surprising beatdown from Shaw in this match.

To start things off, Shaw would easily know of Victor's known powers. Shaw has many connection sover the years that have probably gotten him info on almost every hero and villain ever known. He is after all the former Black King of the Hellfire Club, and you can't do that without connections. It is very easy to assume that he has all the info he has gathered throughout all the years in his computer or has access to it all on a computer.

Now, while Victor's powers may be flashier than Shaw's, that doesn't mean they are better. Shaw basically has the powers of Kitty Pride, only he can also turn diamond hard (like Emma Frost) as well.

Pretty much, all Shaw will do is turn intangible for most of hte fight making it so that Voctor has actually no way of hurting him. he would then reach in to Victor, rematerialize, and yank out some of Victor's parts basically shutting him down.

Also, while I am not sure, but since he has similar powers to Kitty Pride, he technically might not even have to rip out parts, he might be able to just phase through him and short him out. But if he can't do that, then he will just rip them out as originally planned.

Winner - Shinobi Shaw
 
Zoken said:
Victor Mancha Vs. Shinobi Shaw

Wow, this guy should make an appearance in Runaways. in anycase, Victor can own him. It doesn't say that he has the short-out ability that Kitty pride had, so Victor doesn't have to worry about that. plus with Victor's distinctly different anatomy there is little chance Shaw could find anything to squeeze before Victor jumped out of Shaw's volume.

I agree he should be in Runaways, and they have two of the coolest names in comics IMO.:woot:

True, he might not have the short-out ability, but he doesn't need it. Yes, victor would jump out of the way if Shaw just kept coming at him form the front, but Shaw wouldn't do that, he would come form the ceiling, the floor, the walls. He could easily come up from the floor, and take something out of Victor's leg before he got away, disabling his mobility, this would allow him to to get a good grip on the wires in his chest or head. Also, remember that Victor is part human
still and those human parts are just as intregal to him as his mechanical parts. Injure either, and Voctor goes down.

As for Preptime advantage: Straight to Victor. Victor can use the Pride's old database and research Shaw easily including the man's powers. Victor is also highly versed in meta-history so he will know about how to deal with a threat like Shaw. Shaw can't stay intangible indefinitely as it has been established that one can't breath like that. so all Victor has to do is wait for the man to solidify and blammo hit him with something big and made of metal. Victor has been shown to be proficient enough with his powers to reconfigure a Van into a "Mecha". I don't doubt that any metal he senses on Shaw he would be able to exploit.

Another preptime advantage is the Victor isn't on ANYONE's databases. He was a sleeper agent of Ultron, and member of the Runaways, the pretty much guarentee's his powers are unknown expecially to some z-lister like Shaw.

He WAS a sleeper agent. The databases might not have had Victor in them, but since he has actually been with teh Runaways, he is in the databases. And even if some don't know about him being a cyborg of Ulttron, they would still be able to get his powers. Prep-time is definately not an advantage for Victor, it about even.

If this was a giant open area, than yes, Victor could just wait until Hsaw had to breathe and he would have an advantage, but it's not an open area. We're in a prison. They are filled with different rooms and corridors and a number of places where Shaw could easily escape to. And that's what he would do. he would run at first and easily be able to escape Victor, all the while knowing where Victor still is. Shaw would then just run through the walls and grab a piece of Victor and run away. He would keep doing this (only attacking from different places each time to keep Victor off guard) and dismantle Victor piece by piece. IF Victor was able to get in a shot on Shaw, he would just turn Diamond hard to protect himself before disappearing in to the walls again.


Winner- Shinobi Shaw
 
Okay, a prison... made of metal... and Victor is magneto-kinetic... anyone else seeing the advantage here?

Shinobi Shaw WAS with the Hellfire club. he isn't any more. Shinobi Shaw is past tense, and Victor is present. Time is litereally on Victor's side as Victor wasn't on the scene when Shaw had his connections and access to information. and either way it doesn't matter, SHEILD doesn't even have a good run down on the Runaways, I doubt that the Hellfire club would have better.

the terrain is whatever Victor wants it to be as the building is going to be mostly metal. Victor can make an open area, make a closed area. Victor has been shown as able to use his powers to make the metal an extension of himself, and use it to enhance his own abilities such as super-human leaps. Plus, phased or no, Shaw has metal in his body, just like everyone else (Polaris has used this to reverse people's blood flows and knock them out). Plus, Victor is a tech-phile. He is almost an expert on current super-tech and would be able to make use of the prison's containment systems which were most certainly designed with teleporters and phasers in mind.

I don't normally do this but...

Winner=Victor Mancha
 
Rebuttal

Zoken said:
Okay, a prison... made of metal... and Victor is magneto-kinetic... anyone else seeing the advantage here?

Since when are all prisons made completely out of metal? It's probably like every other prison which is generally made out of stone only this has more high-tech equipment. Yeah, there is metal in the building, but there is no reason to believe it is completely made of metal. If anything, I would bet that the high-powered prison is actually set under ground in the mountains.

Shinobi Shaw WAS with the Hellfire club. he isn't any more. Shinobi Shaw is past tense, and Victor is present. Time is litereally on Victor's side as Victor wasn't on the scene when Shaw had his connections and access to information. and either way it doesn't matter, SHEILD doesn't even have a good run down on the Runaways, I doubt that the Hellfire club would have better.

Just because he isn't with the Hellfire Club anymore doesn't mean he still doesn't have those connections. He made them when he was with the Hellfire Club, but they didn't just necessarily leave when he left.

the terrain is whatever Victor wants it to be as the building is going to be mostly metal. Victor can make an open area, make a closed area. Victor has been shown as able to use his powers to make the metal an extension of himself, and use it to enhance his own abilities such as super-human leaps. Plus, phased or no, Shaw has metal in his body, just like everyone else (Polaris has used this to reverse people's blood flows and knock them out). Plus, Victor is a tech-phile. He is almost an expert on current super-tech and would be able to make use of the prison's containment systems which were most certainly designed with teleporters and phasers in mind.

once again, there is nothign that leads someone to believe that this building is made completely out of metal. While Victor can definately manipulate some things in the buildings, there is no proof that he could control everything. Not to mention that once Shaw starts taking little chunks of wires and whatnot out of him, his abilities will fade extremely quickly.

And while you can assume that part of the prison was made to contain teleporters and phasers, I can assume that the security system is protected from techno-philes hacking it. You can assume everything about this prison.

Winner- Shinobi Shaw
 
Victor is still too under the radar for Shaw to know about him or his powers. Victor was still a sleeper agent when Shaw had his connections. past tense, Shaw is not part of the current incarnation of the Hellfire club. face it, he doesn't have the hook ups anymore.
 
Random vs Hisako Ichiki

Because this is a rematch, and both opponents remember what happened the last time, Random is going to have the big advantage this time.

Now he'll know that Hisako is no one to mess around with. She almost beat him last time, and he's not going to let that happen again. So Random is going to be dead serious about taking her out. Luckily, the old stuff he used before will still work.

Random can adapt to Hisako's mutation by becoming immune to her armor. Just like adamantium can somehow get through her armor with no resistance, Random can mutate his body to do the same. This means she can't directly attack him, and that Random could just jump and grab Hisako, attacking her as if she was just an ordinary girl.

Or Random could develop the power to disrupt Hisako's mind so that she can't call up her armor at all, leaving her defenseless.

And Random has his arm-guns as an additional weapon.

The first round could have gone either way, but this rematch gives Random a big edge.


Random wins
 
Zoken said:
Victor is still too under the radar for Shaw to know about him or his powers. Victor was still a sleeper agent when Shaw had his connections. past tense, Shaw is not part of the current incarnation of the Hellfire club. face it, he doesn't have the hook ups anymore.

Even if he didn't have his hook-ups anymore, how would that really affect anythign that much? Shaw's strategy would be the same with almost anyone, and he would figure out Victor's powers once he saw what he was doing. Until then, he would only appear in front of Victor incorporally so he wouldn't get hurt.

The only thing he wouldn't find out is that he is a cyborg and he would figure that out once he reached inside of him.
 
Victor would bury Shaw, literally. Now the building may be made of concrete, though I would assume more likely that it is made of corragated steel and other metal, it will have metal support as well as metal equipment, and metal bars, and lots of metal. Victor, knowing that one cannot breath while intangible or phased in something would literally bury the man in the metal. either: A he crushes him or he emerges and has to solidify to breath and he hits him with metal.
 

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