Contest Of Marvels (Season 3) - Thread 3

[Hellstormer]

Blink

Meggan

Power Princess

Charcoal

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Power Princess

Charcoal

Meggan

Blink (Exiles)

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Is Over!

Final Results:

Power Princess defeats Stature 8-1

Charcoal defeats Renascence 9-0

Meggan defeats Raza 9-0

Blink defeats Jessica Jones 8-1

 

[Phaedrus45]

Bracket 5

Match 1:

Spitfire (WIEGEABO) link

vs.

Vidar (AHURAMAZDA) link

Match 2:

Psylocke (WIEGEABO) link

vs.

Weapon Omega-Michael Pointer (HELLSTORMER) link

 

[Phaedrus45]

Bracket 6

Match 1:

Metalhead (JEWISHHOBBIT) link

vs.

Ultimo (POWDER-MAN) link

Match 2:

Firebird (MIDNIGHTICE) link

vs.

Doom 2099 (POWDER-MAN) link

 

[Phaedrus45]

Debating May Begin!!!

Location = Muir Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muir_Island

It's night. It's uninhabited.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Metalhead Vs Ultimo

Man... I hate to do this to one of my precious 2099 characters but I see no way of winning this one. I can't even think of a far fetched idea. Nothing.

I'm forced to concede.

Ultimo wins

 

[POWdER-man]

Ultimo vs Metalhead

Yay! I think this is the first conceded match I had. :heart:

WINNER ULTIMO

 

[JewishHobbit]

And I hated doing it.


Hey... was this our first match this season?!

 

[POWdER-man]

No we had one match before....darn if I could remember who it was...

Just checked, Ragnarok vs Major something-or-what-not

 

[JewishHobbit]

Oh yeah... WAY back.


I lost

 

[Hellstormer]

Weapon Omega VS. Psylocke

Alright this is the character I've been waiting to use, this is my secret Weapon. First I'd like to explain to everyone how exactly Mr. Pointer works. It's like this he contains the Collective (i.e. The energy signatures of every mutant depowered on M-Day) which he can access at any time and draw out powers he needs.

Here is a picture of the Collective. If you look all the way on the right you can see two familiar face depowered on M-Day. (*Note Quicksilver was repowered but the Collective already had his original energy signature.)

Now regarding the blasts he's been shown as having it works like this.

1000 different forms of energy in one blast? Ouch.

Another useful bit is that Pointer doesn't necassarily need to know how to use the powers or what they do to find what he's looking for. Here he finds a technopath when he doesn't even know what that is. And he uses multiple healers to heal USAgent.

Notice how he looks rather weak and fatigued in those pictures? That's not cause his powers wear him out, it's because the villain of the story was using the Guardian suit to restrain his powers. Then she relinquishes his full power.

Also Pointer is working with Omega Flight a team that was sponsored by Tony Stark and granted full SHIELD access (As explained in the Omega Flight mini-series). Pointer's information, however, was never released. No one knows exactly what he can do besides what he's been shown doing in Canada (typically flight and power blasts) making it very hard for people to get info on him, but allowing him to get info on nearly anyone.


Now as far as his battle with Psylocke goes he'll be familiar with her from the information he gathers. He'll see she's an expert fighter so he'll use the power of Prodigy (Shown depowered in New X-Men #20) to match her fighting. He'll also see she has telepathic based powers so she'll use the forcefield of Unus the Untouchable (Shown depowered in Marvel Legacy: The 1960s he was repowered by Pietro but his energy signature would remain). Finally he'll notice she also has a psyblade extended from the top of her fist. Since she is so used to it, it would probably be an intergral part of her fighting style so he'll use the blade powers of Flex (Shown depowered in All-New OHotMU A-Z Update #3) to mimic this. Psylocke won't be prepared for any of this and she'll basically be facing herself, but much much stronger.

Winner=Weapon Omega
​

 

[wiegeabo]

Spitfire vs Vidar

Going up against an Asgardian is never an easy thing. But Spitfire's powers make this a good matchup.

Spitfire's a speedster that can run circles around Vidar, and whose body has been toughened to withstand the rigors of her speed. Whcih means when she lands a blow on Vidar, he'll feel it. It also means anything she throws at Vidar will hit him at those speeds. And Vidar will be unable to land a blow on her.

Although, if Vidar were to get in a hit, Spitfire has a healing factor strong enough to overcome a broken back in no time. Combine that speed and healing with combat training from people like Captain America, and Spitfire has all she needs to wear her opponent down.

Spitfire wins

 

[wiegeabo]

Psylocke vs Weapon Omega

Information gathering during prep-time heavily favors Betsy. Still being on the eXiles when the contest started, she can use the Panopticon to gather all the information she needs about Michael. And this will tell her that he's not someone to mess around with.

So her best tactic is play to her skill set as a ninja. Stealth. Sticking to the shadows, Betsy is essentially silent death (although she won't necessarily kill Pointer). And when the moment is right, when she's stalked her prey and ready to strike, she will.

The simplest and most effective attack is with her psychic katana. Even someone as powerful as Micheal will fall when his brain is scrambled. And if the fight does get more physical and drawn out, Psylocke can also fight with her telekinesis. This isn't limited to directly using it against Micheal (striking him with a field, or object flung by her tk), but she can use it to ramp up her body. With her durability, speed, and strength boosted, she's been able to take on Rogue. Combine that with her fighting skills, and she's an incredibly formidable opponent.

Betsy's a highly skilled ninja with telekinetic powers and psychic katana, and complete information about her opponent with a day to develop strategies against him. To put it simply...


Psylocke wins

 

[Hellstormer]

Rebuttal: Weapon Omega VS. Psylocke

The simplest and most effective attack is with her psychic katana. Even someone as powerful as Micheal will fall when his brain is scrambled. And if the fight does get more physical and drawn out, Psylocke can also fight with her telekinesis. This isn't limited to directly using it against Micheal (striking him with a field, or object flung by her tk), but she can use it to ramp up her body. With her durability, speed, and strength boosted, she's been able to take on Rogue. Combine that with her fighting skills, and she's an incredibly formidable opponent.

The psychic katana and all the physical damage will be nullified by Unus's forcefield. And her fighting abilities won't help her when Pointer knows everything she does.

Betsy's a highly skilled ninja with telekinetic powers and psychic katana, and complete information about her opponent with a day to develop strategies against him. To put it simply...

If she really knew what she was getting into she would back down.


Winner=Weapon Omega

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Bracket 5

Match 1:

Spitfire (WIEGEABO) link

vs.

Vidar (AHURAMAZDA) link

This is an interesting macth or could have been against your average Asgardian. Vidar is anything but average.

Vidar is a 10 foot tall class 50 warrior who usually fights with a staff that he uses to great effect having practiced and battled with it for thousands of years. He is also an expert swordsman. This of course fails to mention that he has Asgardian speed and reflexes as well as greater stamina and durability then an average Asgardian.

Spitfire is a speedster, but not much of one. In fact she is slower then some cars:

As Spitfire, Jacqueline Falsworth possessed the ability to move at superhuman speed and superhuman metabolic vitality. She could run at her top speed of 50 miles per hour for up to a half hour before fatigue impaired her performance. At lesser levels of exertion, she could function optimally for hours.

Vidar is faster then that. And she cannot withstand blows from a 10 foot tall giant wielding staff as big as him with class 50 strength behind him.

She is going down and going down quite fast.

Winner Vidar

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Spitfire vs Vidar - Rebuttal

Going up against an Asgardian is never an easy thing. But Spitfire's powers make this a good matchup.

Actually you fail to mention that Vidar is much more then an everage Asgardian. He is stronger, bigger, more durable and just as fast as an Asgardian.

Spitfire's a speedster that can run circles around Vidar, and whose body has been toughened to withstand the rigors of her speed. Whcih means when she lands a blow on Vidar, he'll feel it. It also means anything she throws at Vidar will hit him at those speeds. And Vidar will be unable to land a blow on her.

With a top speed of 50 mph (that she can even only hold for 30 minutes) against a 10 foot tall Asgardian wielding a 10 foot staff, she will get hit and hit often. She will not be able to harm him either as he is already more durable then an average Asgardian who are already considerably more durable then humans.

Vidar is the third strongest Asgardian, he will not taken down by a "speedster" who goes slower then my own car for less amount of time. This is not taht much of a challenge afgainst Vidar whose blows will be terrible and could break her down

Although, if Vidar were to get in a hit, Spitfire has a healing factor strong enough to overcome a broken back in no time. Combine that speed and healing with combat training from people like Captain America, and Spitfire has all she needs to wear her opponent down.

If she gets hit once, she will be broken in quite a few places and she will then get hit again. She did heal once a broken rib in a few panels but she was unable to run at that point. Vidar just needs to strike hera couple of times if he even needs that because lets not forget a class 50 character who hit with a staff, therefore using leverage has an impact which is even greater then his maximum strength. Weig, I know you have done physics (and you are very intelligent) so you know the mechanics of what I am mentioning.

Vidar will take her down in very little time.

Vidar wins

 

[POWdER-man]

Doom 2099 vs Firebird

Firebird is a great character but she is facing not only Doom but Doom 2099. The same powerful Doom but one that not only has all the experience and knowledge of the regular Doom but with only a lot more in both areas with far more technologically advanced armour, weapons and resources. Considering we are talking about Doom that is saying A LOT.

Firebird can manipulate and generate heat and flame. She can manipulate strong winds and she can fly at high speeds. She has also been shown to survive in space, be resistant to a universal poison and massive radiaton.

We are all familiar with Doom but maybe not everyone would know much about Doom 2099, who is the same Victor Von Doom who has been able to survive with the help of a regenerated bath.

Nanotechnology was neurocybersurgically added to his nervous system, speeding up his neural and motor responses, allowing him to interface directly with technology and heal himself from serious injuries. (in one instance he came back from seemingly death with his fail-safe system after being destroyed, to heal his bones and stop his bleeding)

Doom wore a sophisticated nuclear-powered titanium battlesuit which granted him superhuman strength, contained jets for flight, housed a personal force field, and discharged concussive force blasts; he could also electrify his armor's surface. The armor contained a 4-hour air supply, and could be sealed for travel into outer space or underwater. Special attachments to the armor had included a molecular-expander, which can cause molecules to expand into the size of boulders, and various devices for absorbing the energies of others (such as the Silver Surfer).

In 2099, Doom's armor was upgraded multiple times, but with many of the same abilities as his old suit, just more powerful and advanced. Some of the newer upgrades included a phase shifter(in two instances he was able to survive a ground zero tritonium explosion (most powerful energy in 2099) and the resulting collapse of a mountain on top of him, he also survived an explosion that took down the whole Whitehouse) allowing him to become insubstantial and pass through solid objects, as well as a cyberspace link, allowing his mind to access cyberspace through his armor. During a fight with the copy Doctor Doom of 2099, he also upgraded his suit with a remote activator for his time platform. He also sealed off the eyeslits which were previously open, covering them with red lenses.

Doom's many inventions include a variety of robots, such as robot duplicates of himself (Doombots), Latveria's robot police force (Servo-Guards), an army of unstoppable robots designed only to destroy (Killer Robots), as well as robots designed for slave labor and non-humanoid models used for special posts; his time machine, with which he can travel through space and time; and a shrink ray.

A few more notes about Doom is that his Energy Blasts have been strong enough to vaporize a whole armoured aircraft; he can do up holoprojections to confuse and avoid detection by Firebird; he has taken direct blasts that disentegrated steel and concrete into dust; his armour adamantium lanxide able to withstand extreme heat blast, direct explosions, acid, etc; personal cloaking device to make him undetectable; and by the end he had added advance technology from Stark/Fujiwaka, Tiger Wilde's group, Wakanda, Pixel, and Alchemax to his own vast knowledge and resources in technology and weaponry.

Prep-Time

This favors Doom so much more than Firebird. Yes Firebird has surely heard of Doom before but how much preperation could she do? While Doom, when knowing who is his target is probably one of the most dangerous people to face. Firebird is known well enough in the Superhuman community that Doom would be able to get information on her or would know already. Not to mention his time travel capabilities to go to the current timeline to review more information on Firebird. Regardless the name "Fire"bird would give him enough clues to go from and prepare his armour to absorb different types of energy (even while fighting someone).

Match

The location might serve Firebird better but not a huge advantage with all of Doom's scanning capabilities. He will have the location and his opponent scanned before Firebird even knows it. With his holoprojections he can make her think she is going after him while he can alter his armour in the process (if need to be) to be able to absorb Firebird's power. This is Doom we are talking about, it would be nothing for him to do, if he hasn't already did it in prep-time. At this point he can make himself known and when she attacks him he can absorb all her powers and either drain her, leaving her powerless, or convert it into energy he can use to harm Firebird. He has done it countless times with even more powerful characters so there is no question if he could do it, it is only when and how.

Not to mention he has his shields which can defend against her attacks, his phasing ability to avoid being hit, his nanotechnology armour which can heal him while he is fighting, his powerful energy blast, and the access and knowledge to create powerful and advance weaponry. Doom is a serious player in the Marvel Universe but in 2099, he is even more powerful nd advanced, which says a lot. Firebird has no prayer in outsmarting Doom, and she doesn't have the resources like Doom has to prepare for this matchup. If this match were to happen out of the blue she "might" have a chance, but with 24 hours prep she will be like flying duck to a hunter.

WINNER DOOM 2099

 

[wiegeabo]

Also Pointer is working with Omega Flight a team that was sponsored by Tony Stark and granted full SHIELD access (As explained in the Omega Flight mini-series). Pointer's information, however, was never released. No one knows exactly what he can do besides what he's been shown doing in Canada (typically flight and power blasts) making it very hard for people to get info on him, but allowing him to get info on nearly anyone.​

As of the start of the contest, Psylocke was still part of the eXiles. That means she has access to the Panopticon, which will have all the information she needs about him (and other versions of him, including ways he's been defeated in other timelines).

Now as far as his battle with Psylocke goes he'll be familiar with her from the information he gathers. He'll see she's an expert fighter so he'll use the power of Prodigy (Shown depowered in New X-Men #20) to match her fighting. He'll also see she has telepathic based powers so she'll use the forcefield of Unus the Untouchable (Shown depowered in Marvel Legacy: The 1960s he was repowered by Pietro but his energy signature would remain). Finally he'll notice she also has a psyblade extended from the top of her fist. Since she is so used to it, it would probably be an intergral part of her fighting style so he'll use the blade powers of Flex (Shown depowered in All-New OHotMU A-Z Update #3) to mimic this. Psylocke won't be prepared for any of this and she'll basically be facing herself, but much much stronger.

Betsy doesn't have to rely on telepathy, and she does have telekinesis. (The telepathy does increase her stats, boosting her speed and strength.) I didn't see anything in Unus' profile that blocked tk. Also, her blades don't have to be physical. Only when their at maximum can they slice into material. But turned down, they can slip through matter and disrupt someone's mind. That means, if Omega tries to fight her with blades, with her skill she can slip her blade right through his, and connect with his mind, shorting it out.

Psylocke wins

 

[wiegeabo]

Rebuttal: Weapon Omega VS. Psylocke
The psychic katana and all the physical damage will be nullified by Unus's forcefield. And her fighting abilities won't help her when Pointer knows everything she does.

When turned down, Psylocke's katana are immaterial. So they'll be nothing for Unus' forcefield to block.

If she really knew what she was getting into she would back down.

You're opinion. I've never known Betsy to back down from a fight.

 

[Hellstormer]

Rebuttal:Weapon Omega VS. Psylocke

When turned down, Psylocke's katana are immaterial. So they'll be nothing for Unus' forcefield to block.

Betsy doesn't have to rely on telepathy, and she does have telekinesis. (The telepathy does increase her stats, boosting her speed and strength.) I didn't see anything in Unus' profile that blocked tk. Also, her blades don't have to be physical. Only when their at maximum can they slice into material. But turned down, they can slip through matter and disrupt someone's mind. That means, if Omega tries to fight her with blades, with her skill she can slip her blade right through his, and connect with his mind, shorting it out.

Right here

Unus the Untouchable is a mutant that possessed the power to generate a field of invisible psionic energy around his body. The field acts to deflect objects and even energy beams, and can withstand great concussive force. Normally, Unus can control the force field at will. Normally, certain types of radiant energy, such as sunlight, can pass through the field, as do air and sound waves (at least within certain unknown limits). Unus has deflected beams of energy, objects of high mass, objects traveling at high speed and telepathy, including that of Charles Xavier. Unus was at one point vulnerable to the Beast's ray gun that augmented his force field power beyond his control.

As of the start of the contest, Psylocke was still part of the eXiles. That means she has access to the Panopticon, which will have all the information she needs about him (and other versions of him, including ways he's been defeated in other timelines).

No proof that he ever had been beaten and I highly doubt it will start now. He's gone toe-to-toe with the Sentry and the rest of the New Avengers when he couldn't even control his powers. Psylocke is a flea at best.

Winner=Omega Weapon

 

[Phaedrus45]

Debating Is Over!

Voting May Begin!!!

 

[wiegeabo]

Spitfire

Psylocke

Ultimo

Doom 2099

 

[Hellstormer]

Weapon Omega

Ultimo

Doom 2099

Vidar

 

[random_havoc]

Doom 2099
Vidar

Spoiler

(if it'd been proven in the debates that Spitfire moves like a real speedster i'd probably have voted for her. But 50mph? Pathetic.)

Weapon Omega
Ultimo