Days of Future Past 'Days Of Future Past' BOX-OFFICE worldwide prediction - Part 1

[ken smith]

I just think the way the foregin markets LOVE 3D, it gives DOPF a great shot to outgross F&F 6 internationally.

And DOFP should at least outgross TLS domestically, IMHO.

Yup. Not to mention DOFP is getting way more good reviews than TLS.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The only advantage DOFP has is that Maleficent is more of a family and female-skewing film. With that said, it will still take a bite out of them. While I am looking forward to AWTDITW, I actually think it will greatly underperform. It is sandwiched in between two much more marketable R-rated comedies with Neighbors and 22 Jump Street (which is a genre with longer legs than action movies), and on top of that it's a western with some rather mixed buzz (which can be deceiving).

Add on that I think Edge of Tomorrow is only going to do "okay" numbers for a summer blockbuster (I don't think it will crack $200 million domestic), DOFP might have an easier time of it than TASM2 or Godzilla has had.

Then again, I have been wrong before. And Maleficent might really break out. I will certainly being seeing it too.

This is all sound logic, especially with "Edge of Tomorrow" and "A Million Ways to Die in the West". I am honestly not sure what is going to happen with Maleficent. I can see it making anywhere between $50m and $80m. And while everything up until HTTYD 2 will not open to "huge" numbers I could see a combined effect. Only time will tell. Though I do expect better legs from DoFP then TASM 2 or Godzilla.

And just because a movie features a kid who watches his father, mother, and brother be murdered while a friend is traumatized by nightmares of death and childhood suffering, does not mean it is dark or dramatically meaningful. After all, I just described Batman Forever.

I like Iron Man 3. But just because the villain goes after the president doesn't make it weighty or profound. Otherwise the GI Joe movies--where the bad guys take over the White House and blow up London--would be hailed as a new Nolan franchise.

An extreme example, but it is why a movie about a couple of serial killers (A Clockwork Orange) is far more transcendent and even euphoric than your run of the mill dramedy about families coming together.

Execution and talent are king.



See I would disagree. Cap pays lip service by not-so-subtly implying that the new super-powerful Hellicarriers are a Drones and NSA a all-in-one mega fear...but it doesn't really run anywhere with that idea. Cap doesn't really judge "good people" trying to do "good." It is a sleeper cell with Hydra--enemies not that much more well defined or better developed than Cobra in the GI Joe movies--who secretly want to take over the world. It is a group of evil Germans (how much more old school propaganda can you get?) that once destroyed on the inside, all is right with the world.

I am not saying that this makes DOFP a better movie. But it doesn't give an out by saying the only humans who want to kill mutants are evil foreigners. Nor does, for another example, The Dark Knight suggest only corrupt cops torture, lie or commit conspiracy. After all Batman and Gordon do all of the above, and it hardly condones it as it leaves both emotionally crippled in the sequel.

You can prefer Cap 2 to both movies, that is fine. But just because they mention something that sounds like drones and Cap scowls does not mean it is seriously thinking about the issue. Too much box office is at stake.

This deserves a standing ovation.

 

[CB Fan]

Summer 2016 has Batman v. Superman, Cap 3, a mystery Marvel movie (probably a new character like Dr. Strange), a new Spidey film, Alice in Wonderland 2, Finding Dory, How to Train Your Dragon 3, Independence Day 2, Ice Age 5, and a new Planet of the Apes. All of those are virtually guaranteed a half billion minimum unless they colossally screw up. Angry Birds also has a reasonable shot. The X-Men franchise is just going to have to figure out a better way to hook the general audience. The competition is pretty much huge every summer from now until the blockbuster movie season starts to collapse (if that ever happens).

Movies released in the Winter make major bank, I read a Forbes article on how even bad movies have seen returns that they wouldn't see if released any other time outside of winter. Not every big blockbuster has to be released during the summer and its time studios start thinking outside the box.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Im expecting Maleficent to flop, Disney's live action movies are not doing very well lately. Even Oz made barely above 400 million and that was expected to be as big as Alice in Wonderland. It doesn't help either that its aimed towards girls and not kids in general.

Edge of Tomorrow also seems like its going to flop lol I really don't think DOFP has direct competition in following weeks, Im almost sure its gonna be the biggest film internationally behind Transformers 4.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Others see maleficent doing total 130 to 150 million.Some think it's this year's snow white and the hintsmen which grossed 155 Million Domesticly.

 

[Liam_H]

Maleficent is tracking fairly high.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Movies released in the Winter make major bank, I read a Forbes article on how even bad movies have seen returns that they wouldn't see if released any other time outside of winter. Not every big blockbuster has to be released during the summer and its time studios start thinking outside the box.

But would this franchise do well in the Winter? I think it depends on the demographics, summer movies are mostly aimed to teens and Winter films are usually more for the kind of films that appeal to everyone.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I hate that the marketing didn't capitalize on the 3D, I had to google about it a day before to know if the movie was gonna be in 3D and if it was shot in 3D which it was(and its the only reason I saw it in 3D). Many people rather watch movies in 2D unless there is a buzz behind 3D and that's overlooked in all the marketing and even reviews don't even mention that at all.

 

[CB Fan]

But would this franchise do well in the Winter? I think it depends on the demographics, summer movies are mostly aimed to teens and Winter films are usually more for the kind of films that appeal to everyone.

I think this movie would have done very well in Winter, in fact I think X1&2 could have been winter films as well. Singers X-Men films are heavy in drama and quiet character moments and feature action almost as a secondary concern. This is where I see a disconnect with audieneces as the films are released in the time of big mindless action films and comedies, and these films don't fit that description.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I hate that the marketing didn't capitalize on the 3D, I had to google about it a day before to know if the movie was gonna be in 3D and if it was shot in 3D which it was(and its the only reason I saw it in 3D). Many people rather watch movies in 2D unless there is a buzz behind 3D and that's overlooked in all the marketing and even reviews don't even mention that at all.

The 3D was nothing special tbh.

I wish I had had the ability to reserve tickets to this film without it having to have been in 3D.

 

[EnDz0n3]

It had a bigger opening on the foreign market because it opened to more places at once, Cap and Spidey were more staggered around the globe.

From one of the links that was posted:

At 118 countries, X-Men: Days of Future Past opened to a massive $171.1 million overseas this weekend. According to Fox, it earned more across the same bucket of territories than The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

 

[Bruce Malone]

From one of the links that was posted:

At 118 countries, X-Men: Days of Future Past opened to a massive $171.1 million overseas this weekend. According to Fox, it earned more across the same bucket of territories than The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

TASM had a staggered release it opened in the UK and some other places in April.

I believe DOFP was pretty simultaneous overall with the major markets.

 

[psylockolussus]

The 3-day gross in the U.S. is okay, but considering the fact that First Class/The Wolverine earned less than 60 million in the opening, this is pretty good. I imagine if DOFP had a bigger lead-in movie, it would have earned 100 million in the opening weekend but no. So 90 million is decent.

The foreign gross, I'm very happy about it! I think $550 million worldwide is already a lock!

 

[Raiden]

See I would disagree. Cap pays lip service by not-so-subtly implying that the new super-powerful Hellicarriers are a Drones and NSA a all-in-one mega fear...but it doesn't really run anywhere with that idea. Cap doesn't really judge "good people" trying to do "good." It is a sleeper cell with Hydra--enemies not that much more well defined or better developed than Cobra in the GI Joe movies--who secretly want to take over the world. It is a group of evil Germans (how much more old school propaganda can you get?) that once destroyed on the inside, all is right with the world.

I am not saying that this makes DOFP a better movie. But it doesn't give an out by saying the only humans who want to kill mutants are evil foreigners. Nor does, for another example, The Dark Knight suggest only corrupt cops torture, lie or commit conspiracy. After all Batman and Gordon do all of the above, and it hardly condones it as it leaves both emotionally crippled in the sequel.

You can prefer Cap 2 to both movies, that is fine. But just because they mention something that sounds like drones and Cap scowls does not mean it is seriously thinking about the issue. Too much box office is at stake.

On the contrary, I think Cap 2 is more bold than DOFP by implying that the drone program of the U.S. is an infringement on the rights of the citizens, and BW's blatant release of all the classified information is a not-so-subtle reference at NSA and Snowe. DOFP may be saying that humans wanted mutants killed, but they generalized it in such a way that they weren't really pointing a finger at anybody, and besides there is no real-world allegory to be made since there isn't a section of the population that the majority of people wanted dead. Homosexuals and minority groups may be oppressed, but they are not hunted like mutants were in DOFP.

 

[jmc]

I actually think the Cap 2 themes were far more of a happy accident that a direct commentary, similar to the whole Occupy Wall Street stuff in TDKR. Right place right time.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I think this movie would have done very well in Winter, in fact I think X1&2 could have been winter films as well. Singers X-Men films are heavy in drama and quiet character moments and feature action almost as a secondary concern. This is where I see a disconnect with audieneces as the films are released in the time of big mindless action films and comedies, and these films don't fit that description.

Good point.

 

[Raiden]

I actually think the Cap 2 themes were far more of a happy accident that a direct commentary, similar to the whole Occupy Wall Street stuff in TDKR. Right place right time.

"Captain America: The Winter Soldier" Is About Obama's Terror-Suspect Kill List, Say the Film's Directors

"[Marvel] said they wanted to make a political thriller," Joe Russo, who directed the film with his brother Anthony, tells Mother Jones. "So we said if you want to make a political thriller, all the great political thrillers have very current issues in them that reflect the anxiety of the audience...That gives it an immediacy, it makes it relevant. So [Anthony] and I just looked at the issues that were causing anxiety for us, because we read a lot and are politically inclined. And a lot of that stuff had to do with civil liberties issues, drone strikes, the president's kill list, preemptive technology"—all themes they worked into the film, working closely with screenwriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely.

Doesn't sound like a happy accident to me.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Nikki Finke says $110m for the 4 day weekend. I think Fox should be happy with that; not every movie can gross a billion dollars. That's just unrealistic.

 

[jmc]

"Captain America: The Winter Soldier" Is About Obama's Terror-Suspect Kill List, Say the Film's Directors

Doesn't sound like a happy accident to me.

I was talking about the timing of events like Snowden and recent revelations of governments spying on citizens. They may have had their finger on the pulse in terms of what might be the issues similar to Nolan but the timing of recent news, like the Occupy thing, was just a happy accident.

 

[Raiden]

I was talking about the timing of events like Snowden and recent revelations of governments spying on citizens. They may have had their finger on the pulse in terms of what might be the issues similar to Nolan but the timing of recent news, like the Occupy thing, was just a happy accident.

The Russo Bros. put those real-world issues in the movie as their social commentary, so I think they deserve the credit for speaking out so boldly about them through their movie. These are very sensitive issues, and the fact that Marvel allowed them to write the story they wanted proved that it's not always about the bottom line for them.

 

[laytonc32]

On the contrary, I think Cap 2 is more bold than DOFP by implying that the drone program of the U.S. is an infringement on the rights of the citizens, and BW's blatant release of all the classified information is a not-so-subtle reference at NSA and Snowe. DOFP may be saying that humans wanted mutants killed, but they generalized it in such a way that they weren't really pointing a finger at anybody, and besides there is no real-world allegory to be made since there isn't a section of the population that the majority of people wanted dead. Homosexuals and minority groups may be oppressed, but they are not hunted like mutants were in DOFP.

there is a real world allegory but most aren't recent. You have the Holocaust where the majority of Germans allowed Jews to be killed at camps. Then you have more recent genocides like in Bosnia and Central Africa. So there have been groups hunted to extermination like that in the last 60 years.

 

[jmc]

The Russo Bros. put those real-world issues in the movie as their social commentary, so I think they deserve the credit for speaking out so boldly about them through their movie. These are very sensitive issues, and the fact that Marvel allowed them to write the story they wanted proved that it's not always about the bottom line for them.

I think you've misunderstood me but doesn't matter.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I was talking about the timing of events like Snowden and recent revelations of governments spying on citizens. They may have had their finger on the pulse in terms of what might be the issues similar to Nolan but the timing of recent news, like the Occupy thing, was just a happy accident.

It was more than just a coincidence I'd say.

TDKR is very much a post-recession film and a lot of the Occupy grievances came out of the whole bank bailouts situation. So it is a film of the time in that sense. What Catwoman and even Bane was saying were things some people were saying both before and during the occupy protests actually started.

 

[Marvin]

Any ideas what this film's 3 day would have been had it landed on a 3day weekend?
Add at least half of what it makes monday perhaps.

 

[EnDz0n3]

TASM had a staggered release it opened in the UK and some other places in April.

I believe DOFP was pretty simultaneous overall with the major markets.

But I think what that article is saying that factoring the staggered release dates and taking into account all the territories, DOFP still made more than CATWS.