Doctor Who - Not a Hugging Type of Thread - Part 19

[Gold Samurai]

Series 10 started shooting a few days ago

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an article about how to survive a year with no (or rather, only one) new episodes.


http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor...vive-an-entire-year-without-any-new-episodes/

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

I guess the fake snow means Pearl Mackie will be in the Christmas Special, even though it was previously said she wouldn't be. Is it really that hard for Steven Moffat and the production crew to be honest with people over something like this (that doesn't really need to be kept a secret)?

 

[Manic]

or it could just take place during the winter

or it could be unseasonably cold in a time of year when there shouldn't be snow at all

 

[Swordmaster]

Rule one: Moffat lies

But yeah, until I see a Christmas tree I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

or it could just take place during the winter

The only time that has happened is The Unquiet Dead. Logic would also dictate that they would film the Christmas Special first due to it being the first episode to air.

 

[Pink Ranger]

or it could just take place during the winter

or it could be unseasonably cold in a time of year when there shouldn't be snow at all

Or an episode could take place in Canada during April.

We stole the St. Bristol sign to put outside the Hockey Hall of Fame.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Dude's got a time machine. He can do an adventure in the snow whenever he feels like it.

 

[Lord Valumart]

Waters of Mars had snow...

 

[Pink Ranger]

Dude's got a time machine. He can do an adventure in the snow whenever he feels like it.

He can go to Hoth or Winterfell.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Waters of Mars had snow...

In a scene featuring a cameo from Ood Sigma at the end leading into the Christmas Special.

 

[Pink Ranger]

With that coat, Bill looks like a female Dave Lister. Closest we'll ever get to the DW/RD crossover event, I guess.

 

[RetroNaz]

Capaldy looks awesome with his hair grown out a little longer and white like that!

 

[Matt]

Producers Hint That Matt Smith Could Return to the Role

Oh man, I know that this likely a rumor/Moffat simply being Moffat and thinking aloud, but I personally love the idea.

The big critique of such an idea I am seeing is it is a step backwards and there are no stories left to tell with 11.

I disagree with this. Reverse-Regeneration would be a whole new twist to the Time Lord mythos. Especially if it ties into the location of Gallifrey/its return to the universe as we know it. Since the anniversary, the table has been set for the Timelords to have a pretty massive arc. Some of that was resolved in Heaven Sent/Hell Bent. Some, but not all. Hell, Reverse-Regeneration was even set up by the 50th anniversary as a potential story. It could be something that even the Time Lords did not think possible. Basically, it is the Doctor going to a place where no Time Lord has gone before and the season could explore the ramifications of that.

Not to mention, it could explore a lot of questions as to the exact nature of the Doctor and what regeneration is. Is it a new man taking over your life? Is it the same person with some new quirks and ticks? It could even explore the effect that being "dead" had on the Doctor and what returning would be like to his psyche.

Maybe its the 11th Doctor fanboy in me talking, but I think there are a lot of stories that could be told with a reverse-regeneration.

 

[The Batman]

I don't want to see a reverse regeneration. I'd rather see him pop up during Moffat's last season if he had to return.

 

[Matt]

Even if the reverse regeneration were only to last one episode (perhaps Moffat's final story), I'd be curious to see it. It was implicitly put into the lore through the 50th. I think it creates the possibility to explore a lot of interesting questions surrounding the Doctor. I can see why some would be turned off by the notion though. I just think it is foolish and shortsighted to assume (as the Zap article I linked does) that reverse regeneration would inherently be a step backward or that 11 would have no stories left to tell. To the contrary, I think there is a ton of potential. Now whether the story would live up to that potential or not is a totally different question as is whether it is a story worth telling. But I don't think fear of telling a bad story should stop any writer who believes that they have a potential story worth telling. It should at least be explored.

Conversely, I really hope Matt Smith does not try to run back to the role out of fear. If he truly feels that he can bring something back to the role or that, creatively, he wants to revisit it, then I encourage him lobbying for it. But I know that he's done a couple of plays and movies that have not been terribly successful and/or well received. But that does not mean he ought to run back to safe territory. Smith is a tremendously talented actor. He shouldn't stall his career and retreat to safe grounds out of fear or uncertainty.

 

[Teelie]

Would be interesting to see if only for a brief time. I don't know whether going for a longer term with this would be a good idea though.

 

[Matt]

Would be interesting to see if only for a brief time. I don't know whether going for a longer term with this would be a good idea though.

I think if done, it could one season at the longest. MAYBE two if the followup story is worth telling. Any longer and it would feel like they are clinging to their safe zone.

 

[Lord Valumart]

I'm sure the comics did a thing where Tennant turned back and it was barely an issues worth of stuff. It was an interesting idea, but I thought it too much of a shock ending to one issue that was put there for the hell of it.

Not a fan of the idea.

Random team up on the other hand...

 

[Matt]

I'm sure the comics did a thing where Tennant turned back and it was barely an issues worth of stuff. It was an interesting idea, but I thought it too much of a shock ending to one issue that was put there for the hell of it.

Not a fan of the idea.

Random team up on the other hand...

I think in this case there is some leeway because the precedent was set by the 50th. It would make it less of a shock for shock's sake move and more of exploring something that had been set up for and hinted at. And it makes sense to use 11 as he was the Doctor who encountered his future once-former self.

Like I said, I love me some 11. But I don't want it unless the story is worth telling and the writers are willing to really explore what it means to be a Time Lord, what the nature of regeneration truly is (is it a version of the Doctor dying, is he just tweaking himself, etc), and the effect it has on 11, to essentially return from the dead (or if he even sees it that way).

I mean if nothing else, we know that some Doctors, like 10 have been adverse to the idea of regeneration and see it as someone else stealing their memories and body. Meanwhile, 11's weary smile seemed to indicate that he welcomed it. But once they're gone, they're gone. Its like Time Lord death. Seeing the impact of a Doctor coming out from that on the other side...it could be one of the better stories the show has ever told, certainly the most ambitious. But its only worth doing if it can live up to that.

 

[Manic]

Ugh, this story again? If you just read the actual quotes from Smith & Moffat, and ignore the speculation from the people writing the article, it just says Smith misses the role and Moffat knows he misses it. That's it. His openness about coming back just means he probably won't turn down a multi-Doctor episode in the future. Best case scenario, he becomes the seventh former Doctor to return to the role permanently on audio.

 

[Matt]

Ugh, this story again? If you just read the actual quotes from Smith & Moffat, and ignore the speculation from the people writing the article, it just says Smith misses the role and Moffat knows he misses it. That's it. His openness about coming back just means he probably won't turn down a multi-Doctor episode in the future. Best case scenario, he becomes the seventh former Doctor to return to the role permanently on audio.

Manic, almost any time he posts in the Doctor Who thread:

 

[Pink Ranger]

Ugh, this story again? If you just read the actual quotes from Smith & Moffat, and ignore the speculation from the people writing the article, it just says Smith misses the role and Moffat knows he misses it. That's it. His openness about coming back just means he probably won't turn down a multi-Doctor episode in the future. Best case scenario, he becomes the seventh former Doctor to return to the role permanently on audio.

Manic, almost any time he posts in the Doctor Who thread:

At this point, every Manic post longer than three lines I imagine being voiced by Peter Capaldi after drinking 8 Red Bulls.

 

[Urich Leeds]

Smith coming back would be fine. It would explore the idea established in the 50th anniversary special that he can and will use old faces again at some point, and it does it at a time where we still have a former Doctor actor willing to do it.

And, it opens up the idea that there are new rules to his regenerations after breaking the 13 barrier.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

I'm sure the comics did a thing where Tennant turned back and it was barely an issues worth of stuff. It was an interesting idea, but I thought it too much of a shock ending to one issue that was put there for the hell of it.

Yeah, that was disappointing. When I read the issue with the retro-regeneration cliffhanger I expected the next part to be the Doctor running around in the ninth Doctor's body.

 

[RetroNaz]

I really do miss Smith as the Doctor - the season 5 incarnation. Amy also played a big part in my love of his run, which will probably never be recaptured for me.

The fairy tale style filming of season 5 was perfect for this show, at least in my opinion.