Don't Hate The Hater, Hate The Hate! - - - - - - Part 18

[ComicChick]

Yeah, my older conservative friend likes to complain about those kinds of people too, but I know a bunch of poor young folks and they are too proud to pull that kind of stunt. I think the majority of the working poor are just as hard-working as you and are legitimately trying to get by on [/their own volition.

i really hope you are right.

It's actually kind of sad that people are perfectly happy staying where they are and mooching instead of as you said, bettering themselves. But the motivation really has to come from within. There are lot of rich folks who mooch too, they're just more clever about it.

i know too many people who are happy to mooch in personal life. it's extremely frustrating.

 

[ComicChick]

So what do you think is keeping all these other non-teenage people in fast food? Clearly they aren't in it for the benefits. What other jobs aren't they moving into that are superior? And why aren't they moving into them?

It's easy to write them off as lazy or unmotivated and moochers who live off food stamps and welfare without actually answering why they would do that.

If you've ever lived on welfare then you'd probably know it's not something most people would be proud of or enjoy doing. Of course you can easily find those exceptions that want to be there but they're not the majority of people who are on some kind of assistance.

i do not have an answer to the why, but i would like to hear one. i'm very curious about it.

i actually have literally heard people (more than one) say these words to me or someone i know "you're just jealous/mad that you don't get food stamps like i do". i've witnessed people brag about how much they get each month more times than i can count. i've seen people sell their benefits for cash, which pisses me off. they should lose them for that and people who really need them should get them. it was on the news not too long ago about people selling them on craiglist and ebay and getting busted.

 

[enterthemadness]

The job I work at is clearly a temp job, or better yet...if you need a second or third job to make it. I was told by a former co-worker that the shift was 5, 5 and a half hours. When that person started. When I came on, it was only a 4 hour shift a day, generally 4 days a week. The retail I work at is LITERALLY built on part-timers and people quit all the time. Only coordinators and managers get more than 30 hours a week. I'm glad I have a pay check at all, but with everything that goes on there, I rather work fast food again or any other retail. There's a walmart set to open in 2014 nearby...a ''small grocery walmart''. I guess I put in there later in year or in 2015 when it opens.

 

[Anita18]

So what do you think is keeping all these other non-teenage people in fast food? Clearly they aren't in it for the benefits. What other jobs aren't they moving into that are superior? And why aren't they moving into them?

It's easy to write them off as lazy or unmotivated and moochers who live off food stamps and welfare without actually answering why they would do that.

If you've ever lived on welfare then you'd probably know it's not something most people would be proud of or enjoy doing. Of course you can easily find those exceptions that want to be there but they're not the majority of people who are on some kind of assistance.

i know too many people who are happy to mooch in personal life. it's extremely frustrating.

Honestly, I don't know. I don't know many people in that situation at all, but in talking to a few folks who are not my over-achieving relatives or not my over-achieving classmates, I can surmise that it's because they don't know that there are other options for them.

I came from a lot of privilege. And I'm not talking about wealth, although the fact that I graduated with barely any student loans helps a lot. What I mean is that I grew up with a lot of mental privilege and freedom. If there was an opportunity that interested me, I should go for it. I was capable of anything I put my mind to, with enough work. I could do it. My father drilled it into my head that he came to this country with $500 in his pocket and made something of himself because he worked hard and never stopped learning.

People who don't have that mindset to go after those opportunities think that it's all out of their control. That the only thing they CAN control is what they buy at the mall when they get their paycheck. But their standing in life, nope. They're stuck where they are. Life has dug them into a hole and they don't know where to start to get out.

Yes, getting more schooling with a minimum wage job is really hard. But if they had a goal, if they had a plan, if they thought they could control their future, I don't think they'd be dropping so much money on frivolous things.

IMO, a lot of seemingly irrational human behavior have to do with people being terrified of losing control, which goes into fear of change.

At least, that's my theory. And I've been told I give pretty good pep talks.

 

[Anita18]

I hate whiny people. It's way worse if they're adults.

There was a couple at the gym today and he was trying to coach her doing squats on the Smith machine. I was doing more than 2x the weight she was in the squatting cage (which is already way harder than the Smith machine at the same weight) and all I could hear from that direction was, "It's too heeeeaaaavy, I can't doooo iiiiiit!"

ZOMG I wanted to slap her in the face.

 

[Figs]

I hate that it appears Marvel's Marvel Masterworks books aren't going to be in Hardcover format anymore. I don't know if I want to keep buying them since it would annoy me seeing paperbacks next to my beautiful hardcover books.

 

[PyroChamber]

I hate that it appears Marvel's Marvel Masterworks books aren't going to be in Hardcover format anymore. I don't know if I want to keep buying them since it would annoy me seeing paperbacks next to my beautiful hardcover books.

I thought they already stopped making Masterworks in hardcover form, particularly when they changed the covers to them.

 

[Figs]

I thought they already stopped making Masterworks in hardcover form, particularly when they changed the covers to them.

The last Iron Man and Spider-Man books I got were hardcover. They have the next Spider-Man to preorder and it only says soft. They're also charging the same price as they would for hardcovers. **** you Marvel.

 

[Xeno]

So what do you think is keeping all these other non-teenage people in fast food? Clearly they aren't in it for the benefits. What other jobs aren't they moving into that are superior? And why aren't they moving into them?

It's easy to write them off as lazy or unmotivated and moochers who live off food stamps and welfare without actually answering why they would do that.

If you've ever lived on welfare then you'd probably know it's not something most people would be proud of or enjoy doing. Of course you can easily find those exceptions that want to be there but they're not the majority of people who are on some kind of assistance.

A lot of people who work in fast food don't have the education, skills or experience for other work. There may be no other jobs available in their neighborhoods, as well. Fast food and other retail jobs are the lowest-paying employment and often the only employment available for some.

 

[Travesty]

I hate whiny people. It's way worse if they're adults.

There was a couple at the gym today and he was trying to coach her doing squats on the Smith machine. I was doing more than 2x the weight she was in the squatting cage (which is already way harder than the Smith machine at the same weight) and all I could hear from that direction was, "It's too heeeeaaaavy, I can't doooo iiiiiit!"

ZOMG I wanted to slap her in the face.

 

[Chance Jackson]

I hate whenever I'm watching something on tv then some severe weather or heavy rain messes up the damn signal on the sat dish.

I hate when I'm watching something on TV and some breaking news story interupts what I'm watching like when that Kennedy died in that plane crash they totally interrupted The Young Hercules movie on fox, never did get to see the rest of it.

 

[E-Man]

I hate how there is always a know-it-all on the first day of a job. They just can't let everyone learn the proper basics first, and they have to interject all day and take up time with everyone about how their super secret techniques are what we need to use. These are usually the people who quit within 3 months.

 

[Duke]

I hate that I've gone to 2 different Best Buy locations to look for a series which had a street date of 01/07/14 isn't readily available. What sucks even more was when I inquired about it, they didn't even know what I was talking about, plus it took me about 20-25 minutes to find a person to help me & the movie sections were in disarray.

 

[Mace Dolex]

I hate the disgusting habit guys have of spitting out their phlegm on the streets, what are you trying to prove that you're tough and macho? I'm a guy and I don't do that, I just swallow it now that's manly for ya.

I hate that it appears Marvel's Marvel Masterworks books aren't going to be in Hardcover format anymore. I don't know if I want to keep buying them since it would annoy me seeing paperbacks next to my beautiful hardcover books.

I actually prefer the softcovers, they're easier to store and I always search for sales and discounts, never retail price.

 

[Figs]

I hate the disgusting habit guys have of spitting out their phlegm on the streets, what are you trying to prove that you're tough and macho? I'm a guy and I don't do that, I just swallow it now that's manly for ya.


I actually prefer the softcovers, they're easier to store and I always search for sales and discounts, never retail price.

Softcovers don't last as long. You can keep it on your bookshelf for years and barely read it and it's still going to show wear, especially around the corners.

 

[PyroChamber]

As much as I hate when people say this, I hate it even more when I say it..."I only came here to buy one thing".

 

[ComicChick]

I actually prefer the softcovers, they're easier to store and I always search for sales and discounts, never retail price.

my preference is hardcover as well, but i get most of my books via GoHastings

 

[Duke]

I hate the show Dance Mom that currently airs on Lifetime. It's just a stupid, pointless, show that just needs to be flushed down the toilet.

 

[wiegeabo]

So you're saying it's a reality show.

 

[Duke]

So you're saying it's a reality show.

Yep. Pointless crap!

 

[Teelie]

Homeopathic (IMO homeopathetic), alternative "green earth" new age lifestyle ********.

It's an unfortunate situation I must endure listening to this completely mostly fake ******** "better way of living" but usually I brush it off and ignore it. There are only a few (a word I cannot stress hard enough) aspects of it that are actually worth investing in. The rest is garbage or even dangerous to your health.

Today I was all but lectured on if only I lived this way (the homeopathic/new age quackery) my life would be so much better... when it's almost always what makes me feel worse after listening to it and then doing something they never do (research) and seeing it won't do any good whatsoever to help and may end up only harming whoever tries it.

Especially when the person who speaks it doesn't realize how much stress it puts on me while they talk all about how all the "toxins" in their body and life stress them out and how they are ridding themselves of it (all the while spending money on literally useless and worthless remedies, vitamins and snake oil that make me cringe at the cost, occasionally in the thousands per month). After these helpful "talks" I always inevitably feel stressed out, guilty, depressed, disrespected, underappreciated, undervalued and definitely angry. Anger is maybe not the best word but I'm not going to dig too deep to find a better expression for the emotion.

I've made necessary changes in my life. I realize there are more to be made and I'm working on them. Anyone who has ever truly changed their lifestyle will know you don't wake up one day and change everything and never look back. It's a long, arduous process of forcing those changes and sticking to them. I don't smoke, I wouldn't even be considered a "moderate" drinker and I've cut out or down a lot of bad food habits over the years. I need to exercise more but that's incremental. I'm not just sitting around all day either.

Overall my health is not bad but it's not where it should be either.

Some of the changes I've made are even in the way they want, but it's never enough. No matter how much change is made, it's never going to be enough because none of this stuff works! The few changes I've made are ones any modern medical doctor (doctors are practically a epithet of disdain to them, not to be trusted or listened to) has recommended or that real research (again, something anathema to homeopaths) has shown to work.

Again, it's a situation I cannot change right now. If I say something, anything about how their comments affect me, it's twisted into either an offense against them and I'm the offender or I am resisting change that is necessary and results in passive-aggressive retribution in some form.

The worst part, the most stressful, angering and entire reason I'm even posting about is the boldest ******** claim that if I read this "Clean" book that it will literally change my life. I'll have the perfect job, the perfect house, the perfect health, the perfect everything. All from reading this so-called miracle book. It's about going on a clense of my body, from a medical doctor (a good one though, since they are shilling this belief system) who claims a lot of stuff I can easily debunk with a Google search. None of my previous efforts to show them the error of these claims ever makes it through the lies though.

The sad thing is this person has read and done all this for years and still can't see it hasn't helped them. Their health is no better, their life is no better (if it were, why the need to go through a 21 day cleanse that means mainly eating only liquid foods?) and so many health issues that will never, ever be fixed by merely drinking lots of water, taking some magic vitamins found in the Amazon or in India or China or where ever the next scam "miracle cure" originates from.

I don't say anything to them anymore for the aforementioned passive-aggressive response it entails. That I don't want to (and long since given up) try showing them how fake this stuff is and how it won't help anyone but whoever sells it. And it gives them peace of mind that it's doing something. That somehow it's helping even when clearly it is not.

I've tried gently showing them the research on various claims, tried explaining that biology, chemistry, and so on, don't work that way, but they continue to ignore me and go about claiming things like cell memory, energy and toxins are real things. They're not. At least not as their understanding is.

This is also all under the genuine and real thinking that it somehow is going to help me. It's their concern for me and everyone around them that we're living in a world that's worse than it really is. Metal is "toxic" to the body. You shouldn't wear jewelry as it disrupts the energy of the body. Artificial anything is toxic to the body. Organic is the only thing to eat and wear because everything else is dangerous and will be absorbed by your skin (sweat is toxic too FYI). Even the water must be filtered because the chlorine is going to kill you or the iodine or the flouride or some other thing that technically is true in a dose so large you'd have to deliberately overdose on it.

My favorite thing is the vehicle they drive, despite their earth friendly, environmentally conscious attempt to be clean, is it gets somewhere around 12 mpg. It's one of those over-sized trucks that gives a false impression of safety. It's like driving a tank only I suspect a tank gets better mileage.

There are other things they do that are counter to their earth friendly mentality but the homeopathic stuff is the current thorn in my side.

So that's my rant. I really can't stress enough that this is a situation that will not, cannot change currently. I'm deliberately being vague on several of the details for privacy reasons. They are set in their resolve that this is the only way to live life and I don't think anyone but they are going to be able to ever change their minds. Everyone I know has said or tried to get them to see otherwise but it's one of those, "what can you do?" kinds of things.

Just accept it and deal with the waves of homeopathic "advice" that crash your way like a tsunami.

 

[Feenix]

To add to Teelie's post, I hate people who campaign against vaccines.

 

[PyroChamber]

I hate when people say that they don't like something or someone and say that they don't know why.

 

[NickNitro]

Those are horrible people and you need to remove them for your life Pyro.

I hate people that can't take a second to look at the other side of an argument. People who can't be reasoned with.

 

[Feenix]

I hate people who ignore logic in favour of reiterating the same old points that they spew as "facts."