The Force Awakens Early Star Wars 7 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 3

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Oh my god I love that movie.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

lol. I have that movie...mmmm keira...lols. damn reminds me of the crush I had a long time ago. Too bad she didn' t play Padme instead of Sabe who could have been carried over through the next two films. ah well...thats why fan fiction exists

 

[Marvolo]

Wow it said something like 2 weeks in the article. But how does it work finacly if movies are in theaters for a shorter and shorter time? What is the benefit to people buying or renting movies compared to paying 10 or so to go to the movies? Why did movies used to stay in theaters longer? Wouldn't movies continuing to make more money for a longer time if they stayed in theaters for a longer time? Isn't part of the reason that movies pull movies from theaters after only like a month or so because people are wanting for it to come out on video? If people had to want longer like the old days wouldn't movies continue to make money much longer then a month? Really this just confuses me and makes me want to ask more questions. At some point are movie theaters not even going to be a thing any more? You have thoughts about all of this?

There will likely be a premium charged for the convenience. A monthly fee to subscribe to a studio's own streaming service which will allow you to watch all their films at home sooner. Or there will be a premium charged through other streaming service. Two recent indie films (Bone Tomahawk and The Hollow) that were released on streaming services and in theaters at the same time cost me $7 each for a rental which is more than some theaters charge. So the studio didn't lose money. Instead it actually made more money because those films were only released in a handful of theaters. They weren't playing within hundreds of miles of where I live. So by streaming them the studio got more profits and I got to watch the films at the same time as people who were lucky enough to have a theater near them that plays indie films.

There are too many gaps where studios aren't maximizing their profits. As a film starts to move out of theaters it needs to be made available at home quicker. By releasing the film as soon as possible at home they are negating some of the profit loss caused by theaters dropping a film which happens with every film.

And keep in mind that more people than you might think hate the theater for various reasons. That is one reason some people wait for home video releases. The quicker a studio releases at home the quicker the studio gets those people's money.

Of course some people will always wait for red box no matter what the film is, because red box is cheap, but those people are pretty much a lost cause anyways. Those people have already decided they don't care about the theatrical experience, and the studio won't win them over whether they keep the films in theaters longer or not.

And one of the reason films get pulled from theaters is because of performance. If a film isn't performing well and the theater can replace that film with a film that is performing better they will. Fant4stic being a prime example of that. That film was pulled from theaters at an alarming rate, because it was performing terribly.

And unless I'm mistaken, a reason films don't stay in theaters as long any more is because of how crammed release schedules are. When there is a blockbuster size film almost every single week half the months of the year it's hard for theaters to hold onto a film for too long. They have to make room for all the films that come out. To do that they have to drop films faster or reduce show times faster.

That's another issue, even theaters that hold onto films longer cut the number of showtimes the longer the films are in theaters. Streaming films at home sooner for a price would allow studios to negate the showtimes they are losing at theaters.

In short as long as the studios are charging people to watch the film, it doesn't really matter where the people are watching it at.

 

[Marvolo]

And then it's revealed she's been operating a hologram from beyond the grave to control the First Order and finish her old master's work after having a change of heart and agreeing with him.

On a serious note, what exactly is happening with TFA in China? Do the Chinese not care for it?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Oh my god I love that movie.

It is one of my two favorites. I can't pick between it and Empire. It definitely cemented my Keira crush.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

On a serious note, what exactly is happening with TFA in China? Do the Chinese not care for it?

I guess they just aren't into it. This is Star Wars first time around. I am curious how it goes with Rogue One and VIII.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It is one of my two favorites. I can't pick between it and Empire. It definitely cemented my Keira crush.

 

[spiderman2]

Just about to watch a episode of star wars rebels have never seen the show before.

 

[spiderman2]

I guess they just aren't into it. This is Star Wars first time around. I am curious how it goes with Rogue One and VIII.

Hopefully they can build up the franchise in china. It would be nice if 8 could do 300m there.

 

[spiderman2]

There will likely be a premium charged for the convenience. A monthly fee to subscribe to a studio's own streaming service which will allow you to watch all their films at home sooner. Or there will be a premium charged through other streaming service. Two recent indie films (Bone Tomahawk and The Hollow) that were released on streaming services and in theaters at the same time cost me $7 each for a rental which is more than some theaters charge. So the studio didn't lose money. Instead it actually made more money because those films were only released in a handful of theaters. They weren't playing within hundreds of miles of where I live. So by streaming them the studio got more profits and I got to watch the films at the same time as people who were lucky enough to have a theater near them that plays indie films.

There are too many gaps where studios aren't maximizing their profits. As a film starts to move out of theaters it needs to be made available at home quicker. By releasing the film as soon as possible at home they are negating some of the profit loss caused by theaters dropping a film which happens with every film.

And keep in mind that more people than you might think hate the theater for various reasons. That is one reason some people wait for home video releases. The quicker a studio releases at home the quicker the studio gets those people's money.

Of course some people will always wait for red box no matter what the film is, because red box is cheap, but those people are pretty much a lost cause anyways. Those people have already decided they don't care about the theatrical experience, and the studio won't win them over whether they keep the films in theaters longer or not.

And one of the reason films get pulled from theaters is because of performance. If a film isn't performing well and the theater can replace that film with a film that is performing better they will. Fant4stic being a prime example of that. That film was pulled from theaters at an alarming rate, because it was performing terribly.

And unless I'm mistaken, a reason films don't stay in theaters as long any more is because of how crammed release schedules are. When there is a blockbuster size film almost every single week half the months of the year it's hard for theaters to hold onto a film for too long. They have to make room for all the films that come out. To do that they have to drop films faster or reduce show times faster.

That's another issue, even theaters that hold onto films longer cut the number of showtimes the longer the films are in theaters. Streaming films at home sooner for a price would allow studios to negate the showtimes they are losing at theaters.

In short as long as the studios are charging people to watch the film, it doesn't really matter where the people are watching it at.

I really hate this whole steaming thing the would is going to with ever thing lol. I guess I am old school and like to buy movies on a disk and go to the theaters to see a movie. I just fell like if movie took longer to come out then people would have no choice to go to the movies and then they wouldn't have that lose of profit by theaters not carrying movies any more. While its not like I am going to have a big screen like a movie theater any time soon to watch movies on so going to the movies is the only changes to see a movie on a big screen and about 99% of the time I don't have issues with people being loud or any thing at the theater.

While when it comes to renting movies I very rarly rent movies. Normally if a movie looks good at all to me I will go see it. About the only movies I redbox is a movie like say terminator 5 while I haven't yet but I plain to just because I have seen all of them. Or a movie like fantastic four I want to see it to see if it is really has bad has people say lol. But it just fells like people are more included to rent because of how fast movies come out. Its like pay 10 or so plus food if you want to or pay like 2 to redbox and just want a few months. While I know they pull movies faster if they are dropping off faster but it also fells like movies wouldn't fail off has fast if people didn't fell like they could just want only a few months.

Yeah I guess that is true about having blockbuster more often. In the old days there was probly way way less movies out at the same time so there was less compatetion to deal with. I also wonder how much ticket prices effect ticket sales. Like say if tickets where 4 instead of 10 how many more tickets would they sale and like how much would it make in comparison. Like say a movie sales 1 million tickets at 10 a peace that would be 10 million in ticket sales. Now say instead the same movie sales 2 million but the tickets only cost only 4 that would be 8 million in ticket sales. That kind of goes with the whole inflation and why ticket sales are not a far thing to look at though. I think part of why ticket prices have gone up so much faster then inflation is because they are using new cutting edge technology and any new technology cost a lot so there for it cost more and more to make movies. Now when technology is old it goes way down in price. So if say they used 20 year old teachnogly I think tickets would cost less maybe. But that doesn't really explain why all tickets cost a lot no matter if you are watching a action movie or a comedy.

Yeah that is true about show times. When TFA first came out the theater where I live I think had between the 3d and 2d like 10-12 show times now hear after about a month that number is 3. Like a week ago I think that number was more like 5-6. Is it true that there are really dollar theaters to? If so like how many of them are there? Like how much do those theaters tend to added to a movies boxoffice? Like how long before they get the movie?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This for me is the greatest thing you have ever done on here.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This for me is the greatest thing you have ever done on here.

 

[Erzengel]

On a serious note, what exactly is happening with TFA in China? Do the Chinese not care for it?

They just banned Deadpool in China.

They must not have joy is in their hearts. That's the only logical assumption.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If Fox wanted Deadpool to play in China they would have made it PG13 or at least a light R so that it could be cut enough to play in China.

 

[Erzengel]

Well there was also an 8 year old child's mother trying to petition Fox to release a PG-13 movie so he could go see it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well there was also an 8 year old child's mother trying to petition Fox to release a PG-13 movie so he could go see it.

And?

 

[Erzengel]

3,037 supporters?

https://www.change.org/p/20th-centu...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

But the mother can wait for Deadpool to be released on cable edited for TV.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

3,037 supporters?

https://www.change.org/p/20th-centu...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

But the mother can wait for Deadpool to be released on cable edited for TV.

I am trying to figure out what the problem is here.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Should they have cut Robocop to be PG13 in the 80's? Screw lazy parents. Tell your little brat that he can't see every film that he wants to, that he has to wait until he is older.

 

[Erzengel]

I am trying to figure out what the problem is here.

I didn't say there was a problem.

ISS made a comment about a PG-13 version of Deadpool. I added a story about the same subject that popped up last week.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Should they have cut Robocop to be PG13 in the 80's? Screw lazy parents. Tell your little brat that he can't see every film that he wants to, that he has to wait until he is older.

I think it is a slippery slope when you market to kids. If they don't, that is fine. But then don't come out with action figures that end up in the kid section of Target. I should have never seen Robocop as a child.

I didn't say there was a problem.

ISS made a comment about a PG-13 version of Deadpool. I added a story about the same subject that popped up last week.

Ah, my mistake. I am sorry.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't think Darth was trying to get personal or anything, I think he just doesn't see why he should care about a petition from a bratty child and awful YouTube reviewer. I mean he can correct me if I wrong of course.

I don't think that they should market R rated films to kids, they shouldn't have toys in the children's section for R rated films. The 80's were kind of a looser time though so I'm mainly just talking about now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't think Darth was trying to get personal or anything, I think he just doesn't see why he should care about a petition from a bratty child and awful YouTube reviewer. I mean he can correct me if I wrong of course.

I don't think that they should market R rated films to kids, they shouldn't have toys in the children's section for R rated films. The 80's were kind of a looser time though so I'm mainly just talking about now.

He is bratty? I retract all my support.

Yeah, Idon't think they should market to kids. You can't wave it in their faces, and then be like, "but you can't have it". I would have lost my mind as a kid of my mother didn't take me to see Robocop and T2. We had the toys after all. t:

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

He is bratty? I retract all my support.

Yeah, Idon't think they should market to kids. You can't wave it in their faces, and then be like, "but you can't have it". I would have lost my mind as a kid of my mother didn't take me to see Robocop and T2. We had the toys after all. t:

I don't know if he is bratty, I'm just calling him bratty because of the petition. I'm probably being evil to the kid.

My folks never took me to the theater but I did watch Robocop and T2 on VHS when I was way under 17 years old.

 

[Erzengel]

See with Deadpool it's different. There has been figures done of him in the past and the character is 25 years old? So I can see where there can be an interest. But I don't think they are doing movie figures outside of Sideshow which is geared towards adult collectors.

I don't think they are necessarily marketing it towards kids, however, if it's trailer is attached to PG-13 films or advertised on TV, yeah kids are going to wanna see it.