The Force Awakens Early Star Wars 7 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 3

[Erzengel]

And I've said this earlier parts of this thread, Titanic visually stunning, but the romance part is as unbelievable as Superheros, Jedi and Transformers.

 

[spiderman2]

STAR WARS is still on top going strong!

NUMBER ONE @ Box Office for third week: Star Wars: The Force Awakens $41,630,000

http://deadline.com/2016/01/the-revenant-star-wars-the-force-awakens-weekend-box-office-1201678383/

So next week is when it is going to lose its number one spot? From weekend 1to 2 the movie had a 40% drop. From week 2 to 3 again a 40% drop. From week 3 to this week though we had over a 50% drop. So what kind of drop are we going to have next weekend? With next weekend being a Holliday weekend are we going to just have a very small drop? Like maybe a 38m weekend?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And I've said this earlier parts of this thread, Titanic visually stunning, but the romance part is as unbelievable as Superheros, Jedi and Transformers.

So why is it judged differently then those?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Titanic had a common, shared language that transcended national borders: raging hormones.

 

[Erzengel]

So why is it judged differently then those?

Cause the suspension of belief can only go so far. LOL

 

[smappy45]

I hope TFA can beat Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in the All Time Domestic Inflation Adjusted rank.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Cause the suspension of belief can only go so far. LOL

Because icky love.

 

[Erzengel]

Because icky love.

My favorite Pixar movie is about love between robots. That's more believable than a woman pining away for a man she spent 3 days with over 70 years later after experiencing a full and eventful love.

It has nothing to do with "icky love." Maybe it's because something like that can be more identifiable for most people. If you've been in a brief relationship, and even if they were tragically taken away, I'm sure being in even a 10 year relationship would make you get over it in a sense.

Someone mentioned stripping down a movie to a silly theme, well personally, this one falls short of the others for me.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I hope TFA can beat Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in the All Time Domestic Inflation Adjusted rank.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

I take Box Office Mojo's inflation list with a grain of salt.

Mainly because it's based on the assumption that the average movie ticket now is $8.61. So that's not accounting at all 3D ticket prices or IMAX.

Pretty much every blockbuster would have probably have had 3D and maybe IMAX releases in addition to regular screenings if they were available at the time but that's not taken into account in inflation.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

My favorite Pixar movie is about love between robots. That's more believable than a woman pining away for a man she spent 3 days with over 70 years later after experiencing a full and eventful love.

It has nothing to do with "icky love." Maybe it's because something like that can be more identifiable for most people. If you've been in a brief relationship, and even if they were tragically taken away, I'm sure being in even a 10 year relationship would make you get over it in a sense.

Someone mentioned stripping down a movie to a silly theme, well personally, this one falls short of the others for me.

The idea behind the relationship in Titanic is rather easy. Young love built on the back of one of the most tragic events in history. Of course it left a mark on her, of course he remembers. It isn't that she spent the rest of her life pining, it is that in her old age she was reminded of a beautiful moment in her life. Something that no one would forget.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I take Box Office Mojo's inflation list with a grain of salt.

Mainly because it's based on the assumption that the average movie ticket now is $8.61. So that's not accounting at all 3D ticket prices or IMAX.

Pretty much every blockbuster would have probably have had 3D and maybe IMAX releases in addition to regular screenings if they were available at the time but that's not taken into account in inflation.

There are advantages and disadvantages on both sides of the argument.

 

[Erzengel]

Did it change her life? Yes. But the way it was relayed in the movie, is at her death, that was the moment she wanted to go back to. Over her husband, kids, grandkids, other life achievements? Yeah, didn't work for me and it felt like it pandered to teenage girls.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Did it change her life? Yes. But the way it was relayed in the movie, is at her death, that was the moment she wanted to go back to. Over her husband, kids, grandkids, other life achievements? Yeah, didn't work for me and it felt like it pandered to teenage girls.

Reflection on youth is a common thing in old age. Also, what exactly is wrong with pandering to teenage girls?

 

[Erzengel]

Because it's unrealistic?

Be in a relationship. How would you feel if your wife was through a tragic ordeal but instead of thinking of you and the life you spent decades building, in the end she wanted to go back to a man that she spent 3 days with.

Again, I just found that unbelievable.

If it worked for you, that's fine with you. But it didn't work for me, which is why I haven't watched this again since I saw it in the theaters.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Because it's unrealistic?

Be in a relationship. How would you feel if your wife was through a tragic ordeal but instead of thinking of you and the life you spent decades building, in the end she wanted to go back to a man that she spent 3 days with.

Again, I just found that unbelievable.

If it worked for you, that's fine with you. But it didn't work for me, which is why I haven't watched this again since I saw it in the theaters.

I am confused by why you think it matters what others think about what she cares about in her last days? It is her life. Considering it was brought back into her life at that time, it makes rather good sense. Also doesn't mean she loves her family any less.

 

[flickchick85]

I never got the impression Rose spent her life pining for Jack in Titanic. In fact I think the movie makes it clear she went on to live a very full, happy life without him, and indeed fell in love with someone else. But that was bound to be the most traumatic and life-changing few days of her life, so of course it would never totally leave her. The life and people she knew on that ship were guaranteed to be etched in her memories forever. And it's not like she was thinking of it out of the blue. She was brought back there to relive it.

 

[kedrell]

I have never seen Titanic placed over Gone with the Wind when adjusted for inflation worldwide, nor would that make sense, as I believe Gone with the Wind made made more overseas then it did domestically. Titanic would have had to double it overseas. Titanic is an amazing #2.

That's because box office mojo's adjusted chart only accounts for domestic. But if you look at GWTW's page you'll see that it actually made more overseas than domestic($201.5m vs $189m) so it's just a simple math problem to find the adjusted WW totals for it and Titanic as well and Titanic comes out $300m ahead of GWTW. Now granted, I just lumped all of Titanic's grosses in there rather than separating it's initial gross from the re-release additions(which would have less increases from inflation as they were more recent) but hey, adjusting for inflation in the first place is an inaccurate business so why not I figured.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I never got the impression Rose spent her life pining for Jack in Titanic. In fact I think the movie makes it clear she went on to live a very full, happy life without him. But that was bound to be the most traumatic and life-changing few days of her life, so of course it would never totally leave her. The life and people she knew on that ship were guaranteed to be etched in her memories forever.

And them bringing it to her doorstep just made it all the more relevant in her mind.

 

[spiderman2]

I hope TFA can beat Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in the All Time Domestic Inflation Adjusted rank.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

15th right now should get to between 9-11. Is there any list out there that shown not only inflation adjusted but also accounts for 3d has not ever movie is 3d and 3d movies cost more to so that is an advantage to?

 

[Erzengel]

I am confused by why you think it matters what others think about what she cares about in her last days? It is her life. Considering it was brought back into her life at that time, it makes rather good sense. Also doesn't mean she loves her family any less.

That was my interpretation of it. Just wanted to point out that it had nothing to do with "icky love" since I do like good romantic movies. I just never thought this was that great of a love story.

 

[spiderman2]

That's because box office mojo's adjusted chart only accounts for domestic. But if you look at GWTW's page you'll see that it actually made more overseas than domestic($201.5m vs $189m) so it's just a simple math problem to find the adjusted WW totals for it and Titanic as well and Titanic comes out $300m ahead of GWTW. Now granted, I just lumped all of Titanic's grosses in there rather than separating it's initial gross from the re-release additions(which would have less increases from inflation as they were more recent) but hey, adjusting for inflation in the first place is an inaccurate business so why not I figured.

I still dong get how it could be ahead of gone with the wind because all inflation is say is that based of the amount of tickets it sold back then if it sold the same amount of tickets today it would have made this amount of money and gone with the wind sold more tickets then any another movie ever and that is all inflation is really saying.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's because box office mojo's adjusted chart only accounts for domestic. But if you look at GWTW's page you'll see that it actually made more overseas than domestic($201.5m vs $189m) so it's just a simple math problem to find the adjusted WW totals for it and Titanic as well and Titanic comes out $300m ahead of GWTW. Now granted, I just lumped all of Titanic's grosses in there rather than separating it's initial gross from the re-release additions(which would have less increases from inflation as they were more recent) but hey, adjusting for inflation in the first place is an inaccurate business so why not I figured.

I am not talking about just Mojo. How do you adjust Titanic so high? It would mean it nearly doubled since its release, when most put it just ahead of Avatar.

Also, you do realize that you need to adjust diffrent between the two amounts for Titanic right? Different inflation.

 

[spiderman2]

I take Box Office Mojo's inflation list with a grain of salt.

Mainly because it's based on the assumption that the average movie ticket now is $8.61. So that's not accounting at all 3D ticket prices or IMAX.

Pretty much every blockbuster would have probably have had 3D and maybe IMAX releases in addition to regular screenings if they were available at the time but that's not taken into account in inflation.

I just think there is to many factors when it comes to comparing movies. Say gone of the wind for example. If the movie came out today it and it was in 3d and had imax yes it would make more per ticket but with the ticket prices being higher how many less tickets would be sold because of that? But at the same time there are more people in the world today then there used to be so how many more tickets would maybe be sold because of that? But then how many people who went and saw that movie would have just stayed home and watched football or basketball or went to a different movie has I am pretty sure there are more movies coming out per year then there where back in the old days. But then the international market is bigger today. So how many people in another places would go to the movie that wouldn't have beable to go to the movie back then? I think just about any movie that is like 80's or before would sale way way less tickets because of things like internet, Netflix, video games ect.

 

[kedrell]

I still dong get how it could be ahead of gone with the wind because all inflation is say is that based of the amount of tickets it sold back then if it sold the same amount of tickets today it would have made this amount of money and gone with the wind sold more tickets then any another movie ever and that is all inflation is really saying.

I don't think # of ticket sales enters into it. If so I suspect the list of most popular movies would look a bit different than the adjusted chart. It's based on the annual rate of inflation. Not only has the worth of $ decreased over time(which is inflation) but the comparative cost of seeing a movie today is not what it was back in the day. In other words even when accounting for inflation and taking that out of the equation the cost of a ticket back then as a percentage of how much money you made is far less than it is today.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't think # of ticket sales enters into it. If so I suspect the list of most popular movies would look a bit different than the adjusted chart. It's based on the annual rate of inflation. Not only has the worth of $ decreased over time(which is inflation) but the comparative cost of seeing a movie today is not what it was back in the day. In other words even when accounting for inflation and taking that out of the equation the cost of a ticket back then as a percentage of how much money you made is far less than it is today.

# of tickets do enter in, as that is what you hit with the inflation. How else would you calculation inflation? You are comparing ticket for ticket. It isn't an exact science because of premium formats now, but that is an advantage for newer films. They still lag behind Gone with the Wind.