Fant4stic: Reborn! - - Part 21

[Ragnaroknroll]

hard to say. it all looked like the same dark corridors to me

LOL!

H4LLW4YS: The Movie

 

[TheComicbookKid]

To me, this all sounds like denial and excuses for the fact that this was a blatant rip off. That was not Beast. You could've swapped Banner in that scene as-is and no one would've balked.

You mean Banner "I'm always angry" Hulk?

Beast always tried to hide his Beast form characteristics to be normal. That's the character. You're right it instead of the tech he used drugs and the transformation makes it seem more Hulkish.

 

[Guts]

Maybe but Hank McCoy doesn't.

Yep. It was also weird how Hank can use his powers just by getting angry while Charles has to wait for the drugs to expire from his system.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I still have hope this movie fails as hard as it should.

Why not just hope that it surprises you and turns out to be a great film?

Why should anyone reward a cheap ploy to retain a film license?

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Yep. It was also weird how Hank can use his powers just by getting angry while Charles has to wait for the drugs to expire from his system.

Hmm. Very good point. Plot-hole discovered

because no matter what, this isn't a Fantastic Four movie and I simply can't agree with something that calles itself an adaptation of an IP I grew up with and ignores everything that IP stood for

It is a Fantastic Four adaption. Just not an adaption of the particular version of Fantastic Four you want.

 

[Urich Leeds]

Why didn't Kinberg have Trask go after Rogue's blood? That would have actually made sense. Oh yeah I forgot. Kinberg's a hack.

Wonder what surprises he's got in store for Fant4stic.

He actually did.

In the future, Rogue is kidnapped and being held at the Xavier School, which has been converted into a Sentinel camp. And there's an entire escape sequence where Magneto and Iceman save her.

Also, later in the film, she would've siphoned off Kitty's powers, and kept Logan in the past, when Logan wounded Kitty.


Of course, this was all cut. However, it'll be restored in the DOFP "Rogue Cut" that's releasing this year.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Yep. It was also weird how Hank can use his powers just by getting angry while Charles has to wait for the drugs to expire from his system.

Totally. A very contrived plot device. Just bad writing.

It was the direction and the great acting which elevated that movie but Kinberg is a hack.

 

[Mikelus]

Big FF fan Jon Schnepp likes the trailer, I guess he's not a real fan either (joking!):

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[Spiderine]

He actually did.

In the future, Rogue is kidnapped and being held at the Xavier School, which has been converted into a Sentinel camp. And there's an entire escape sequence where Magneto and Iceman save her.

Also, later in the film, she would've siphoned off Kitty's powers, and kept Logan in the past, when Logan wounded Kitty.


Of course, this was all cut. However, it'll be restored in the DOFP "Rogue Cut" that's releasing this year.

How does that involve Rogue's blood? They already perfected the machines with Mystique?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Hmm. Very good point. Plot-hole discovered



It is a Fantastic Four adaption. Just not an adaption of the particular version of Fantastic Four you want.

it's actually not much of an adaptation of any version of the fantastic four... Negative Zone origin and a younger cast doesn't suddenly make it "Ultimate Fantastic Four: The Movie"

it's taking small inspirations from everything, plus a whole lotta new junk that no one asked for... to make it's own thing.

it's like saying Spider-Man 3 was based on Ultimate Spider-Man because Venom was Eddie Brock Jr... a few things borrowed from the ultimate universe doesn't suddenly make a film an adaptation of the ultimate comics... now... LOTS of things borrowed.. yes. but so far there seems to be very very little from any F4 any of us know.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

simple.. why want a film to be great that's ultimately nothing like the characters you know and love, and just a hollow shell of who they are suppose to be. ?

This film doing good, actually causes more harm. it can change the books and the way the younger generations perceive these characters to be.

if this film does well or decent.. it could prevent us from seeing the characters we actually do know and love from finally getting a proper film.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

So it looks from the teaser that they start the N-Zone experiment in a low level lab and then move to a fancier Government funded one.

hard to say. it all looked like the same dark corridors to me

If you watch again, you'll see they're very different like Cyclops said. The first looks dingy and run-down and the second has a very different, more expensive looking design.

With the shot of the stern looking generals and plans behind them, I suspect the government tries to repeat the experiment after Reed and Dr. Storm did the original one at the Baxter institute.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

It is a Fantastic Four adaption. Just not an adaption of the particular version of Fantastic Four you want.

or ANY relevant version

 

[Spiderine]

it's actually not much of an adaptation of any version of the fantastic four... Negative Zone origin and a younger cast doesn't suddenly make it "Ultimate Fantastic Four: The Movie"

it's taking small inspirations from everything, plus a whole lotta new junk that no one asked for... to make it's own thing.

it's like saying Spider-Man 3 was based on Ultimate Spider-Man because Venom was Eddie Brock Jr... a few things borrowed from the ultimate universe doesn't suddenly make a film an adaptation of the ultimate comics... now... LOTS of things borrowed.. yes. but so far there seems to be very very little from any F4 any of us know.

Hey.....I been reading some of your posts. You are completely on your "A" game today. And I agree with everything you have said.

 

[Frodo]

I do find it ironic how many fanboys and geek pundits who were bashing the project 24 hours ago, are now defending it with their lives and acting as if they've always been rooting for it. Suddenly the majority of fandom which were against the thing are now in defensive support of the project.

Then again, i've come to realize its kinda a fan ritual to hate something in production and set the bar low, then once the first stills or trailers come out to worship it like its gonna be the best film ever.

 

[C. Lee]

Totally. A very contrived plot device. Just bad writing.

It was the direction and the great acting which elevated that movie but Kinberg is a hack.

Wasn't it said that Xavier was taking a higher dose than Hank?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Big FF fan Jon Schnepp likes the trailer

Quick, somebody dig around and see what the blonde from the Comfort Wipe commercial thinks!

Because that'd be about as relevant.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Hey.....I been reading some of your posts. You are completely on your "A" game today. And I agree with everything you have said.

thanks buddy

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I do find it ironic how many fanboys and geek pundits who were bashing the project 24 hours ago, are now defending it with their lives and acting as if they've always been rooting for it. Suddenly the majority of fandom which were against the thing are now in defensive support of the project.

Then again, i've come to realize its kinda a fan ritual to hate something in production and set the bar low, then once the first stills or trailers come out to worship it like its gonna be the best film ever.

actually. i haven't really seen anyone flop sides.. just alot of newbies have come in and us "fanboys" are trying to fend the hoards of... and set them straight haha t:

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Wasn't it said that Xavier was taking a higher dose than Hank?

Plot-hole averted.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Plot-hole averted. Move along

Don't worry, there are bucketloads of other ones to take it's place.

 

[Flint Marko]

Just not an adaption of the particular version of Fantastic Four you want.

That anyone wanted, you mean. All four the same age? Johnny and Sue no longer related? Containment suits? Blogger Doom? Lo-fi and gritty?
If it ain't broke, let's fix it!
Again, I'm not someone that needs everything to be totally accurate to the source material but the fact that Trank told his stars they didn't need to research anything about their characters from the comics says everything we need to know.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I do find it ironic how many fanboys and geek pundits who were bashing the project 24 hours ago, are now defending it with their lives and acting as if they've always been rooting for it. Suddenly the majority of fandom which were against the thing are now in defensive support of the project.

You're seeing that here? I haven't noticed that at all.

To me very little has changed other than the number of posts in the forum and the number of people participating who were never here before.

 

[Guts]

Wasn't it said that Xavier was taking a higher dose than Hank?

I forgot that. Never mind then.

 

[Stormz96]

The more and more I examine and kinda speculate on what's going down in the trailer, the more and more it feels like this is actually going to be a legitimately awesome scifi film. It feels very grounded, and while maybe that won't fit the f4 well, I think it totally could and it's definitely captured my interest. Hopefully they do the fantastic four story and characters justice, that's my biggest worry I suppose.

Also, I very much recommend watching the Yahoo Kinberg/Trank trailer commentary, very insightful.