Raimi honestly nailed the essence of the character, whether you liked the dreary whiny portions or not. Peter got whiny in the books.
Who the hell wouldn't want to see a comic accurate Doom? Once we get there, then we can talk about a crossover.
Doom is arguably Marvel's greatest villain. My God, he could possibly be one of the greatest comic book villains ever on screen. Yet they for some reason don't want to show us that Doom.
"Fant4stic." Really? I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and stop this from ever happening.
For me it's an adaptation of "Dr Strange and Dr Doom: Triumph and Torment."Who the hell wouldn't want to see Doom face off with Downey's Iron Man/Stark? I have dreamed of that moment.

All of those have to happen and it might be years or decades before they do but I'm confident F4 will go to Marvel one day. Of course if this film somehow blows expectations away I may have to reconsider that.Amen, my frozen friend. Imagine the Torch popping up in a Spidey movie, or the inevitable Thing vs Hulk throwdown. Or Doom or Galactus being the big bad of an entire phase of MS films. Sweet Christmas!
Who the hell wouldn't want to see Doom face off with Downey's Iron Man/Stark? I have dreamed of that moment.

For me it's an adaptation of "Dr Strange and Dr Doom: Triumph and Torment."![]()
Haha, failing but pretending to understand it in front of others. Then he locks himself in his toolshed for a weekend.The idea of watching Stark trying to puzzle out some Reed tech makes me happy.
"Fant4stic." Really? I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and stop this from ever happening.

The idea of watching Stark trying to puzzle out some Reed tech makes me happy.
Haha, failing but pretending to understand it in front of others. Then he locks himself in his toolshed for a weekend.


I will pronounce the title of this film as Fan Four Stick and no one will tell me otherwise.
Did anyone notice in the Josh Trank / Simon Kinberg interview that Kinberg used wording about crossing over properties (presumably FF / X-Men) but it almost sounded like he might be talking about FF, X-Men and MCU?
I've got to go back and find it and see if I was just imagining it.

Doc Jones is spot on about the Spidey reboot. I feel the same way. So much good will I wasted on that crap.
Amen, my frozen friend. Imagine the Torch popping up in a Spidey movie, or the inevitable Thing vs Hulk throwdown. Or Doom or Galactus being the big bad of an entire phase of MS films. Sweet Christmas!
"Fant4stic." Really? I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and stop this from ever happening.
I will pronounce the title of this film as Fan Four Stick and no one will tell me otherwise.
t:That's what caught your eye, that I missed a t in Fant?
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Well, if you're going to mock it, it should be accurately.
Fant4stic looks like the name for a movie with a Linkin Park soundtrack where the characters wear Matrix outfits with hoodies and are misunderstood. Well, either that or a Fast & Furious crossover. No variation of "Fantastic Four" would really fit this, though. Man of Steel got around that by not calling itself Superman, but even if Fox could do that (and it's entirely possible that the deal with Marvel doesn't let them), FF just doesn't have enough general audience exposure to pull it off.