Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[Willie Lumpkin]

Everything sounds probable until the poster replied that Ben jumps into the NZone threshold to save Reed but we know he's on the mission and Sue isn't. Obviously I don't know but I doubt it.

How do we know he's on the mission and Sue isn't?

 

[Dasher10]

I was looking on 4chan at the comic forum and came across a thread that someone has seen Fant4stic and the guy has some interesting things that he spoiled about the movie. Here is the thread **link removed because it leads to page with uncensored cursing and other offensive language** (Not sure if I'm allowed to post the link so sorry in advance) Anyways, The guy says it's "really good and action packed" Maybe the reshoots did justice? Or this guy is lying. Either way it's a good read!

Actually doesn't sound half bad

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think my biggest problem with it, if true, is it repeats two big, glaring problems with the first film:

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1. like in the first film, the FF are saving the world from a threat they created. 2. Like in the first film, the battle with Doom is an afterthought and most of the film will be spent on their origin.

That doesn't make a compelling or fresh and original story IMO.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I was looking on 4chan at the comic forum and came across a thread that someone has seen Fant4stic and the guy has some interesting things that he spoiled about the movie. Here is the thread **link removed because it leads to page with uncensored cursing and other offensive language** (Not sure if I'm allowed to post the link so sorry in advance) Anyways, The guy says it's "really good and action packed" Maybe the reshoots did justice? Or this guy is lying. Either way it's a good read!

Doom has metal skin. And electricity powers. Again????

WTF???

For this reason and this reason alone, I want this film to die.

Oh and as suspected they are merely called The Four. Love how Fox is ashamed to call them by their real names. Why not call the movie "The Four"? Oh wait - they can't. That wouldn't allow them to KEEP THE RIGHTS.

 

[Orba]

How do we know he's on the mission and Sue isn't?

At about 1:03 in the second trailer there is a shot of Teller and another person in white suits in the N-Zone, to me the other person definitely looks like Jamie Bell. So that would seem to indicate that Ben goes with them on the trip into the N-Zone.

 

[Orba]

Oh and as suspected they are merely called The Four. Love how Fox is ashamed to call them by their real names. Why not call the movie "The Four"? Oh wait - they can't. That wouldn't allow them to KEEP THE RIGHTS.

Yeah and that their code-names either don't exist or are used as jokes.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

At about 1:03 in the second trailer there is a shot of Teller and another person in white suits in the N-Zone, to me the other person definitely looks like Jamie Bell. So that would seem to indicate that Ben goes with them on the trip into the N-Zone.

Ah, now that you say that, I remember that discussion previously. I couldn't tell if it was Bell or not, but I'll defer to those who feel they can see it more clearly than I can.

This description is so similar to one of the script descriptions I read, that it's quite possible the person is using that as a basis and then filling in some other details - this could even be the same person who posted that script description.

In fact, that description and Ben pulling Reed out is probably why we had the previous discussion about Jamie being on the mission.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

How do we know he's on the mission and Sue isn't?

plus during the cinemacon interview Teller said his favorite scene to film was the space suits and Mara made a comment that he picked the one scene she wasn't in.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

plus during the cinemacon interview Teller said his favorite scene to film was the space suits and Mara made a comment that he picked the one scene she wasn't in.

Interesting. But she has to be on the mission, doesn't she? It would make sense (based on UFF and the fact that Ben doesn't seem to be part of the Baxter Institut)e that Ben might not be on the mission, but I can't imagine a scenario in which Sue wouldn't be involved.

We still haven't seen any script or other descriptions that seem to clearly explain the two different missions and 'pods' we've seen in the trailers.

 

[Urich Leeds]

I was looking on 4chan at the comic forum and came across a thread that someone has seen Fant4stic and the guy has some interesting things that he spoiled about the movie. Here is the thread **link removed because it leads to page with uncensored cursing and other offensive language**url]http://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/73422780/i-saw-it[/url] (Not sure if I'm allowed to post the link so sorry in advance) Anyways, The guy says it's "really good and action packed" Maybe the reshoots did justice? Or this guy is lying. Either way it's a good read!

I think it's fake. Ben, Sue, Reed, Johnny, and Victor all go through the portal. We see as much in the trailers.

But even if this was real, it sounds like it's an update on the 2005 film.

Basically, it's to Fantastic Four what The Amazing Spider-Man was to Spider-Man.

 

[Orba]

This description is so similar to one of the script descriptions I read, that it's quite possible the person is using that as a basis and then filling in some other details - this could even be the same person who posted that script description.

In fact, that description and Ben pulling Reed out is probably why we had the previous discussion about Jamie being on the mission.

Isn't Ben pulling Reed out something from UFF, could be that the poster filled in gaps from it.

Interesting. But she has to be on the mission, doesn't she? It would make sense (based on UFF and the fact that Ben doesn't seem to be part of the Baxter Institut)e that Ben might not be on the mission, but I can't imagine a scenario in which Sue wouldn't be involved.

We still haven't seen any script or other descriptions that seem to clearly explain the two different missions and 'pods' we've seen in the trailers.

Yeah it doesn't really make a lot of sense that Ben goes and Sue doesn't.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Interesting. But she has to be on the mission, doesn't she? It would make sense (based on UFF and the fact that Ben doesn't seem to be part of the Baxter Institut)e that Ben might not be on the mission, but I can't imagine a scenario in which Sue wouldn't be involved.

We still haven't seen any script or other descriptions that seem to clearly explain the two different missions and 'pods' we've seen in the trailers.

Sue could be in Bruce Banner situation where she goes into the room to get the machine back across the dimension. The image of Reed in the suit crawling out of wreckage means something exploded when they came back.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Isn't Ben pulling Reed out something from UFF, could be that the poster filled in gaps from it.

As I remember (and my memory may be faulty so someone more familiar may be able to help), Ben showed up just as they were getting ready to turn it on and got caught up in the explosion even though he wasn't part of the whole experiment.

But there was an explosion in UFF and it wasn't anything like these 'missions' that we seem to be seeing here.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Sue could be in Bruce Banner situation where she goes into the room to get the machine back across the dimension. The image of Reed in the suit crawling out of wreckage means something exploded when they came back.

I guess there could be a lot of different ways they handle it, but ignoring for a moment various reports that could be misleading, if I had to guess at this point based on what would seem to make sense for the story, I'd assume all five are 'astronauts'.

But I suppose we'll have to wait to know for sure.

 

[Zarex]

Basically, it's to Fantastic Four what The Amazing Spider-Man was to Spider-Man.

You nailed it. Not only are both ASM and FFINO rehashes of films that were put into theaters less than a decade earlier, but both were rushed into production in order to reset the rights clock. The producers attempted to distinguish their recent reboots with "grim and gritty" versions filmed on a tight budget, but in both cases they were unable to control production costs.

If FFINO has a similar drop in domestic box office as ASM did from the Raimi series, we're looking at about $103M DOM for Trank's "contemporary re-imagining".

 

[Orba]

I guess there could be a lot of different ways they handle it, but ignoring for a moment various reports that could be misleading, if I had to guess at this point based on what would seem to make sense for the story, I'd assume all five are 'astronauts'.

But I suppose we'll have to wait to know for sure.

Again looking at the trailers the 'White' group trip seems to consist of only four people, their seems to be only four pods and there don't seem to be any shots of Sue in one of the spacesuits while all of the other characters are shown in that costume.

 

[starscream22]

But even if this was real, it sounds like it's an update on the 2005 film.

Basically, it's to Fantastic Four what The Amazing Spider-Man was to Spider-Man.

That might be giving this reboot too much credit. At least ASM looked like Spider-man.

So where ASM and Spider-man could be twins. Dare I say that this reboot is shaping up to be the 2005 F4's younger, uglier, sister?

 

[Quasar]

That might be giving this reboot too much credit. At least ASM looked like Spider-man.

So where ASM and Spider-man could be twins. Dare I say that this reboot is shaping up to be the 2005 F4's younger, uglier, sister?

Don't forget edgier.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Most bad films don't want people to know how bad it really is till the day of release.That essentially the same rule of thumb for press reviews. When a studio makes a good film they want people to know how good it is in advance of their release. Word of mouth is still a very strong way of getting butts in seats. With everyone so sensitive about spoilers, the only people who will be spoiled are those who want to be.

You could be right, or I could be right.. either way... it's very unusual for this to happen... and VERY suspicious.

Most "good" films don't do this either.

FOX could be very confident.. but i do think this means they feel their marketing isn't working (regardless of the films quality) and they are now resorting to this tactic to hope to get more of a buzz going

 

[spideyboy_1111]

So that would mean putting that screening the day BEFORE release? Really?

oh it's the day before? wow.. that is weird. i could understand a week or 2 before.. but day before? they arn't going to generate any different buzz than the next day.. and could be making money off 800 tickets....

unless they hope that 1 day before generates enough extra buzz to have a good opening weekend?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You nailed it. Not only are both ASM and FFINO rehashes of films that were put into theaters less than a decade earlier, but both were rushed into production in order to reset the rights clock. The producers attempted to distinguish their recent reboots with "grim and gritty" versions filmed on a tight budget, but in both cases they were unable to control production costs.

If FFINO has a similar drop in domestic box office as ASM did from the Raimi series, we're looking at about $103M DOM for Trank's "contemporary re-imagining".

actually.. spidey was never in any real danger of losing the rights... there was only 5 years between Amazing and Spider-man 3's release dates...

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

At least with ASM they gave us a new villain.

IF this report is real, it sounds like the exact same story (with some minor variations) from the first film.

In fact this sounds much more similar to the first film than to UFF.

 

[Zarex]

actually.. spidey was never in any real danger of losing the rights... there was only 5 years between Amazing and Spider-man 3's release dates...

I think that the window between Spidey releases is tighter than those for the FOX films. While FOX appears to have 7 years or so between flicks - this may have been adjusted upward as part of the Mutant X settlement - Sony's appears to be a couple of years shorter. After Raimi's SM4 fell apart the studio scrambled to get the Webb film into theaters before the clock ran out.

 

[starscream22]

don't forget edgier.

ha!

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Don't forget edgier.

Cronenberg-ier.