Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - Part 41

About damn time someone with Fox acknowledged that Fantastic Four was a total disaster. Even better that it was Rupert himself. Now cut it with this bull**** sequel talk and get the Fantastic Four in Phase Four.
 
All in the name of keeping those valuable rights in our hands Rupert.
 
Surprised that the CEO stepped in to outright condemn the film as a failure. Ther goes the sequel. Not like Kinberg actually wanted to make one.
 
Fox dying on its death bed: The rights... (cough)... have to keep those (cough, cough) valuable FF rights... (cough)... at any cost... (coughs blood)... sequel...
 
Surprised that the CEO stepped in to outright condemn the film as a failure. Ther goes the sequel. Not like Kinberg actually wanted to make one.

If I were Emma Watts and her colleagues, I'd be worried about my job. With ol' Rupert's two cents, the studio may have no alternate but to dummy up and cough up the Four back to its rightful home
 
Rupert Murdoch Calls Out Fantastic Four Film For Poor Performance


Company Chairman singling out FF flopping as part of the reason his company is making less the than predicted earnings for the quarter is not a good sign

Wow. Just...wow.

So the film's director smashed the movie before it came out. The studio's CEO is smashing it after the movie came out.

I think it's safe to say, the movie was not a smash. :cool:
 
Serves them right. They should have let the rights revert to Marvel.
 
Serves them right. They should have let the rights revert to Marvel.

I guess the $80M+ question now is was it worth the humiliation? I mean take 4stic out of the equation and most would say that Fox had a decent quarter.
 
I guess the $80M+ question now is was it worth the humiliation? I mean take 4stic out of the equation and most would say that Fox had a decent quarter.

Given Murdoch singling it out, all answers point to "It wasn't worth it"
 
you know... Alice Eve was just talking about how she really wants to be in a Marvel Movie.... I gotta admit... if the stars a line... which it sounds like that's an increasing possibility... she'd really make a fantastic Sue
 
Margot Robbie would've made a great Sue too. She was one of the candidates for FFINO but dodged a bullet there.
 
We need to rename this thread "Fant4stic: Stillborn".

I'm just sayin'. :cool:
 
Margot Robbie would've made a great Sue too. She was one of the candidates for FFINO but dodged a bullet there.

She must feel like the person who swerved just in time and avoided smashing head-on into the truck at full speed.
 
The most terrifying of it all; things could have been worse... much worse.

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Why does that say "SKETCH" when it's clearly a photograph of some poo?
 
She must feel like the person who swerved just in time and avoided smashing head-on into the truck at full speed.

Yeah, She could have been Sue in a good FF movie, but I'm sure she is happier as Harley.
 
Toby Kebbel:

"I was disappointed, but the fans aren't wrong. The fans want what they want to see and if they don't get satisfaction, they let you know. I appreciate that as a performer. My job is to come in and perform as best I can, and hopefully be directed in that path, and I felt like I was. I felt like the film was going to go well. It didn't turn out that the fans felt that way, so their reaction is honest, I can only appreciate honesty."

"I don't know if I learned anything from Doom apart from perhaps when I see something I don't agree with, to voice that immediately. I think it's important. As an actor, you're conscious that your career is at stake with each job, especially on these larger productions. A film like that comes out, and I'm being sent maybe four scripts in a week, and those scripts go to zero when it doesn't come out successful, so that actively affects my career. I think it's vitally important that if there's a problem on set, that it's voiced and we solve it there and I think that collaboration is very important. Not to say that didn't happen on set, but the collaboration is vital and if we don't do that, then we suffer.
 
"I felt like the film was going to go well."
Oh, okay.
"I don't know if I learned anything from Doom apart from perhaps when I see something I don't agree with, to voice that immediately."
Wait, if Toby thought the film was going well, then why make this comment.......?

I think it's vitally important that if there's a problem on set, that it's voiced and we solve it there and I think that collaboration is very important.....Uh.... Not to say that didn't happen on set" *Wink, wink*

Yeah, that's about right.
 
Oh, okay.
Wait, if Toby thought the film was going well, then why make this comment.......?

No one sets out to make a bomb. They just grossly miscalculated here on what they thought this franchise needed and basically thumbed their noses at what the fans wanted in the process.

You make a film based on an existing property because it has a built-in audience. There are already people out there who love the characters and the story. Just give them that dammit. Considering that Fox is in the entertainment business it boggles my mind that those involved in this production failed to grasp this simple concept.

The epic failure of this film is no less than what it deserves.
 
No one sets out to make a bomb. They just grossly miscalculated here on what they thought this franchise needed and basically thumbed their noses at what the fans wanted in the process.

You make a film based on an existing property because it has a built-in audience. There are already people out there who love the characters and the story. Just give them that dammit. Considering that Fox is in the entertainment business it boggles my mind that those involved in this production failed to grasp this simple concept.

The epic failure of this film is no less than what it deserves.

It sounds like he's pulling a Trank. It's not as direct but you can read between the lines. Hell, if he thought things were so great then wouldn't have been so cringey revealing the whole Domashev twist.

And the one other thing you can take from his comment is that he won't be making a sequel short of being at gun point.
 
As time goes on I think more actors involved will voice their opinion on this car crash of a movie.

Kebbell is being very diplomatic. You can tell he isn't trying to burn any bridges with his comments but at the same time you can read between the lines that their were problems and people didn't speak out.

Chris Evans said he was proud of only three movies in his career. One of those certainly wasn't FF: Rise Of The Silver Surfer. You could tell on the press tour for that film that he hated having to promote it.
 
Kebbell also talked about how the studios should be working together back at Comic-Con (he specifically mentioned that he wanted to fight Thor). It's safe to assume the guy has more IQ points than the Fox execs combined.
 
Oh, okay.
Wait, if Toby thought the film was going well, then why make this comment.......?

In defense of Kebbell, he probably thought it wasn't his place to do so. Some actors are different. Some will be more combative with filmmakers and have disagreements about approach to a script or character. Some will be a good soldier and do whatever the director says maybe even if they aren't sure on some of their choices. If they trust the filmmaker they will usually put all their faith in that director and their choices.

Also, it's not like Kebbell hasn't worked on big budget tentpoles before. He has. So he's probably seen similar things happen and figured its best not to speak up if something like that happens.
 

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