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The Dark Knight Rises First picture of Catwoman - Part 1

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Again I still love the TDK and think that Batman Begins was mostly decent but I hate the costume designs in both films and no amount of complaining from the Nolan faithful will change that. His costumes are ugly and uninteresting for the most part. I was mostly fine with goth Joker after I got use to it and I like Bane's mask but the rest belong in the trash. Except Catwoman's costume because we don't know if this is the final version and it honestly doesn't look awful right now.
 
I just mocked this up.

I would've been completely happy with this. A mask and the googles. That was all that was needed. Why couldn't Nolan have done that??????

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I will say WB have some serious guts to release the CW and Supes pics back to back like this
 
I just mocked this up.

I would've been completely happy with this. A mask and the googles. That was all that was needed. Why couldn't Nolan have done that??????
How do you know he hasn't?
 
Sure if negative around these parts, I think that whole grimdark thing Nolan's got you guys smoking is really having an affect on your spirits.
Got to lighten up and learn to smile, Marvel movies a nice wide grin, where heroes are heroes and the people know it. :yay:
And Kevin Fiedg has you on a muzzle and leash. Happily guzzling every drop of mediocrity that he squirts out.

Notice I didn't compare and contrast mediocre Marvel with any Nolan films whatsoever? Yet you had to bring him up. You can't argue films on their merits?

You wanna compare and contrast? Alright. Batman's last deed in TDK is more heroic than anything any hero did in those mediocre Marvel Studio films.
 
Batman Begins was the mix.

Batman Begins did have elements of fantasy in it, just as TDK did. But you can still go further with that. Get into the Gothic/horror elements of Batman. Clayface, Manbat, villains that could be very frightening and still handled in a serious way, even more so then Batman Begins. Go for the tone B:TAS had, but make it a touch more darker with a visually stunning director like Del Torro and it could be amazing. Completely different from what Nolan does yet still serious and dark.

Batman is an AMAZINGLY flexible character. It's not like you either go Nolan or go Schumacher. There are tons of opportunities to take the character other places.
 
Anyways, Anne is a fine actress and looks good. I look forward to seeing her performance and hope that Nolan and crew haven't forgotten that Catwoman is sexy. I'm not asking for a cartoonish sexy but he has to up the anti in this film when it comes to sexiness.
 
I just mocked this up.

I would've been completely happy with this. A mask and the googles. That was all that was needed. Why couldn't Nolan have done that??????

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To be fair, we can't be sure he hasn't done that yet.
 
We are not on the same page.

I disagree with Regwec.

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Heheh! Well, it isn't actually the Catwoman I would have designed, but I can at least accept that this one does draw inspiration from costumes she has previously worn.

I doubt it is the only one we will get, but the horn-rimmed domino mask and skin-tight leathers is undoubtedly part of her heritage, so it's sort of nice to see.

At least she isn't wearing a rubber jigsaw puzzle.
 
Marvel V DC arguements are so freakin stupid and childish. Lets focus on Catwoman's costume and stop talking about Marvel films all together?
 
Your thoughts?

I like her costume a lot. I think its almost a dead replica of the modern interpretation of Catwomans suit.

The goggles are a bit to busy but it doesn't bother me. What's disappointing for me is the lack of cowl/headgear.

It's something so integral and simple that I don't know why one would even think of dropping it. I know ChrisB has said he heard from sources she does in fact don a cowl at some point so I'm hoping for that to be true.

Assuming that this is the only suit then I can safely say I'm throughly disappointed. Especially when you have most of it right and then drop the ball on the most important part.

Its the equivalent to scrapping Batmans ears, cowl, chest symbol and Batwing styled gliders.
 
How do you know he hasn't?

Because he would've. This whole city hall thing looks like it's somewhere in the middle to the end of the movie and other sites are calling this the final look of Catwoman. Plus a lot of reports are saying it's a throwback to Julie Newmar's Catwoman, which I'm fine with, but the cowl and goggles look so badass and fit completely in with Nolan's real-world aesthetic and functionality, as the cowl provides protection and the goggles could have technology in them to help her steal, that it would've worked.

I believe this is the final costume.
 
It looks okay. I did get a Julie Newmar vibe from it. Stealing the Batcycle sounds like something Selina would do.

Hathaway tends to look good in anything so she probably makes it look better than it is.

I would really love a scene where she wears a classy purple dress as a nod to the classic Catwoman costume.
 
I'm loving her boots by the way, you can see them more fully in the images of the stunt double. They are sexy yet practical, managed to incorporate both ideas we are familiar with throughout the comics - the thigh-high + the flat-heeled look. Nicely done :yay:
 
So, to all the trolls ranting on catwoman would you like Joel Schumacher to direct this movie from here on out! Then, be quiet!
 
I can see what you're saying, but there's always other ways to interpret the character that can be just as satisfying. Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, is a kids cartoon Batman movie. Yet it has one of the most wonderfully twisted Joker moments I've ever seen, and because of it is one of my favorite Joker moments ever.
Sometimes this is true. But the problem, as with many things, lies in censorship. Today the censor tells you that Joker can't kill anyone. Tommorrow he says you can't show real guns. Before you know it, you've got The Joker firing laser guns which only 'stun' people. When you begin catering for children you inevitably have to deal with prudish, overbearing parents who want to shield little Timmy and Tammy from death, pain and suffering.
Damn, just look what TAS did to Two-Face. The first two episodes he was amazing. But before long he was using a giant coin prop and hanging around the other villains. Gone was the complexity to his character, gone was the realism to match his surreal circumstances. No, he was bad. Why? Because he was.
When you write for kids you prostitute your own artistic integrity. It doesn't happen right away, but it does happen eventually.

Adding the fantastical elements don't automatically mean Schumacher. That's foolish to think. You can have the fantasy and still be grim and serious.
No, you're right. Fantasy doesn't automatically make something akin to the Schumacher debacle. But it's a very fine balancing act. For every creepy interpretation of Man-Bat we could get, we also run the risk of seeing The Joker unleash giant Christmas robots or, I dunno, turn The Riddler into an offensive parody of homosexuality.
Fantasy can often lead to bizarre plots and nonsensical interpretations of characters. That's what I favour surrealism, as Nolan has approached it. You get elements of fantasy, but it's more like a warped real world. Where the lunacy can believably coexist with the mundane.

Also, you can't will yourself through a lethal injury. No amount of willpower will keep you alive if someone cuts off your head. Two-Face would have been dead. And even if you want to go with the possibility he might have survived through that, no amount of will power in the world would allow him to move his left eye and jaw when the muscles required to do so were literally GONE (like the orbital muscles around his eye) or mostly completley gone and too far damaged to have worked (like what was left of his jaw muscles).
Ah, it's all suspension of disbelief my friend ;)
Of course Two-Face could not realistically survive his wounds. But I never thought Nolan was besotted with 'realism'. Realism often robs a story of all its drama, imagination and originality. I like the idea of Two-Face being powered by will-power, hatred and self-righteous bile alone. It means he's always on the edge and is always dangerous. You really don't know what he'll do. He's in crippling pain, infection is probably setting in, he's half-blind. He really has become a monster, a monster whose sole purpose for living seems to be to make others miserable.
Despite his lofty ideals, I think Harv is really motivated by vindictiveness, ego and jealousy. Both in The Dark Knight and the handful of brilliant Two-Face stories in the comics.
 
I think what people want is something in between. A superhero movie can be realistic and not have to be dark or take it self too seriously.

And I'm sorry I don't feel the batman movies are all that realistic. I won't go into all the details, but a great example was Two Face in the last one. Even though the movie had a great story and an incredible cast, the over the top disfigurment of TwoFace did it in for me. One I should be allowed to take my kids to a superhero movie, my son is still too young to watch it, and two anyone with thtat moch damage to thier face would not be walking around. Most likely they's be dead pretty quickly.

No offense to the DC fans out there, but Marvel has gotten it right. Especially with Iron Man and Captian America. These are great movies and the main characters to don't take themselves too serious. Which to me is extremly realistic. I hope DC/WB learns from them and makes some better films.

When it comes to Batman right now there is no "learning" for WB/DC. They're getting Batman right. Maybe you expected something more child friendly but the fact that it isn't doesn't make these films any less Batman, or in general not any good.

Even with the animated series, as well. Comparing that show to the other superhero shows at the time created a glaring contrast, as Batman stood out from all of them on one end of the spectrum. Sure, BTAS being a kids show would undoubtly gear some of its elements towards that demographic, but the darkness and maturity remained.

It's an aspect of Batman that I got right away, and it's why I love the character: Batman is firmly rooted in this dark world where death and madness thrive. You can do your best, as the animated series did, to lighten up enough to engage young children but doing it too much and risk turning Batman into something else entirely.

It's fine if you like those other films, but don't act as if they're better for having a lighter tone to them. It's a preference, but it doesn't make them better. The quality of the screenplay, directing, acting, and the technical quality of the entire production does so. In this regard, when it comes to Batman, this Batman series has garnered a lot of goodwill from these aspects. It's why the anticipation for this upcoming film is so high and why so many people want to see it.
 
Even if this isn't the final costume I just think that it's a dull first imagine of Catwoman.
 
Because he would've. This whole city hall thing looks like it's somewhere in the middle to the end of the movie and other sites are calling this the final look of Catwoman. Plus a lot of reports are saying it's a throwback to Julie Newmar's Catwoman, which I'm fine with, but the cowl and goggles look so badass and fit completely in with Nolan's real-world aesthetic and functionality, as the cowl provides protection and the goggles could have technology in them to help her steal, that it would've worked.

I believe this is the final costume.
You're assuming. This look is definitely a reference to Julie Newmar, but that doesn't mean a cat-cowl won't show up at some point. It literally would only take adding some sort of helmet with little ears on it.
 
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